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I did my first attempt on candy flipping recently. I took one dose of LSD which was supposedly 100ug. It started hitting me in 30 minute or so. At about 2 hours I had some very minor hallucinations (needed to pay attention to them to notice), but I was feeling high. Went outside and actually could feel the LSD trip to ease of at 3 hours, just when I was thinking about taking the MDMA. I took a 2/3 of my regular dose, which by itself wouldn't be that much. I was playing to the safe side with the doses as I've never done candy flipping.
To my disapointment, I really didn't feel anything special from the MDMA. Maybe slightly smiley, but at that time I was in good company anyway, can't really tell.
After about 6 hours, I could feel myself getting more clear headed and started pounding the booze. At about 8-9 hours I realized I was really drunk, guess the general high had "masked" it. Lucky I didn't drink more, I was way drunk.

Now the question: when taking MDMA on LSD, can I expect the normal MDMA euforia, or is it something different?
What's your usual dosage with MDMA combined with LSD? The same amount as without LSD? More? less?

I'm thinking that next time I'll go
LSD, then another LSD at +2hours, then MDMA at aroud T+3-4 or so hours.
Any comments on that?
 
I'm going to do my first candyflip in the near future. I got 2 hits of LSD (It should be LSD, if it turns out to be something else, i won't take the MDMA) which should be 100µg per hit. I'm going to take those two and in 2-3 hours I'll drop 120mg of MDMA. Any tips? Would this be overwhelming? I took 3.5-4 grams of shrooms and 120mg + 50mg MDMA for my first hippyflip and it was the most euphoric thing ever... I was sweating of euphoria lol. Anyway time will tell which one is better for me, candy or hippyflip :)
 
bla-ljus said:
Now the question: when taking MDMA on LSD, can I expect the normal MDMA euforia, or is it something different?
What's your usual dosage with MDMA combined with LSD? The same amount as without LSD? More? less?
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There is long (6hrs) EDM event coming up for which I'd like to enhance my experience. Thinking about taking small amount of LSD (70-100ug) to get the baseline high, then at about 2-3 hours later take regular dose of (thoroughly) TESTED MDMA. Regular dose being 150mg of ~80% pure crystal (=120mg of MDMA).

The question part comes here: I like LSD, I love MDMA. For this event I want to experience the MDMA euphoria. Will the LSD overpower MDMA emphaty at these dose levels?
Is there a risk of me being totally trashed, ie too high?

I've once experienced 200mg of crystal (=160mg pure MDMA) and I definately don't want my high to go any higher than that. Hopefully bit less. I'd like to still have the good party vibes once MDMA wears off in 3-4 hour range. After all, there is still couple of hours of nice event to enjoy.
 
I must again confirm that MDMA+2CB is the best entactogenic combo I have ever experienced. Beating out LSD+MDMA in the synergy and time alignment departments IMO.
 
^ I wouldn't really think so, I usually add small amount of 2C to a larger amount of MDMA to add color/visuals to the roll... I'd say probably 120mg of MDMA and 10-15mg of 2C-B, probably leaning towards the lower side.


I took 100mg of MDMA with 40mg of MDA and redosed twice with 75mg of MDMA and 10mg of 2C-B... it was nearly perfect, had me going for a LONG time :) redoing 2C-b works quite well over other psychedelics so you can always take more if the dose isn't enough for you.
 
Well would it be overwhelming or what? They synergize so well that smaller doses are needed? Do you take 2C-B or MDMA first?
 
Perhaps, but likely not by much... I just likely wouldn't dose that way personally. I once took 35mg of 2C-B with a high dose of MDA and ketamine... it was obviously way too much psychedelic and it made it VERY hard to keep my train of thought. I just think the psychedelic action of the 2C-B would overpower the euphoria from the MDMA at those kind of doses


It would probably lead to a great experience, but I'd want a dose higher on the MDMA side. Either way works well though, I find taking 2C-B and MDMA at the same time or dosing MDMA then dosing 2C-B both work quite well. Haven't tried 2C-B first though as it's a rather short lasting psych and I wouldn't want it to lessen my roll through tolerance
 
Folley which one do you think is better, traditional candyflip LSD+MDMA or honeyflip or whatever its called 2C-B+MDMA?
 
I dosed 180mg mdma and 25mg 2cb at a festival. And well it was on the brink of too much. I did them pretty much together 2cb followed 20 min later by mdma. I got some nasty twitches from the combo as I wrote about in another thread. But it was VERY visual. It would have been too much had I not been at the massive event
 
In my experience 2CB mixes a little better with MDMA than LSD. There is fundamental synergy there that's missing with LSD.

When mixing LSD and MDMA I felt as if the substances were "fighting for control" at times. For example, If I was dancing and socializing I almost forgot I even took LSD, it was only when I sat down or wondered off on my own for a bit that the LSD made its presence known(and the MDMA took somewhat of a backseat, but was still vastly dominant even though the ratio was highly in the favor of LSD. We're talking 100mg of MDMA to 200+ug of Acid).

With 2CB it's different, you feel it constantly and it merges better with the MDMA as opposed to staying in the background. They also feed off each other in a way that enhances and prolongs the high you'd get off either substance on its own. In my experience MDMA is always the dominant substance when combined with psychs, but 2CB isn't overpowered by that dominance in the way other psychs tend to be in my experience. I've taken 25, 24 and 20mgs of 2CB with MDMA and found 20 to be the sweet spot. Remember that the 2CB will be considerably more potent in this combination than it would otherwise be on it's own. Visuals are -intense- and the mindfuck is similar to a mediumish(100-150ug) dose of LSD but less forceful.

As far as timing goes I must say I got the best results when dosing the 2CB just as I felt the peak of the MDMA start to fade.
 
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Sounds like I have to get some 2C-B then.

It was the first psychedelic I ever tried, should be magical.
 
I've always had a great time hippy-flipping (p.cubensis + MDMA), though I also found the MDMA seems to force its way to the front of the show leaving me with very little psychedelic effect from the shrooms :( still awesome fun though, just a bit of a waste of either substance imo.
 
trozzle said:
I've always had a great time hippy-flipping (p.cubensis + MDMA), though I also found the MDMA seems to force its way to the front of the show leaving me with very little psychedelic effect from the shrooms :( still awesome fun though, just a bit of a waste of either substance imo.
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Happened to me too, but I wouldnt say it was a waste. It was super euphoric. they seemed to potentiate the euphoria so much.. Music sounded and felt orgastic.
 
I'd agree that 2C-B probably synergizes better with MDMA than LSD, though I still think a candyflip has more of that "oomph" that makes things so magical. I could add a low dose of 2C to just about every roll though, with LSD you need to be much more careful with the setting.

I only tried a hippyflip once with doses that were too low.. I should try again but I can't seem to find it in me to convince myself shrooms would be better than anything else I have lol




My last roll was pretty amazing and that was MDMA/MDA + 2C-B, I'd highly recommend it both at shows and at home. Be careful with the doses though, 2C can be almost unremarkable until you hit a certain point and then it's fucking STRONG
 
Hippy flipping is scary business. My first was so intense that it scared me away from mushrooms for a long time. I ate an 8th on the tail end of a multi-stamp pill combo though so that could have had something to do with it. I think my first mistake (besides not testing my pills) was taking pills called voodoo dolls. My second mistake was eating two other stamps that night. My third mistake was eating the shrooms. I had a wonderfully amazing night up until I ate the shrooms at the after party. It was about 15 minutes after eating them when I was dancing and suddenly felt dizzy and next thing I knew my heart was beating out of my chest and I ended up sitting in the back on the car so paralyzed that I couldn't talk so my friend stayed out there with me for like 3 hours playing music and trying to calm me down while we sitting in front of the destination for the after after party. Once the 4th hour mark hit, I felt completely fine and even went on to party until 2 or 3PM at the after after party before crashing in a puddle of sleeping ravers.

Candy flipping is fun but for me, unfortunately, the MDMA takes over all of the psychedelia so I don't get anything but visuals and additional body high from the acid. I have heard so many amazing things about the head space that acid goes into when you mix it with MDMA but I've done it a few times and unless I take the acid first and wait to take the MDMA after the peak of the acid is pretty much over, its MDMA with acid visuals.

Love flipping. Now that's where its at. Mescaline and MDMA make for an amazing combination. Obviously not for a night out and completely for an intimate setting but the spiritual and sexual energy of those two chemicals mixed together is something that everyone should experience. And the sex... OMG the sex... The mescaline pretty much completely counteracts MDMA's limp dick effects. The only part of that experience that isn't just downright fucking spiritually blissful yet sexual is the dry heaving and vomiting coming up on the mescaline. Once you come up on the mescaline, you drop the MDMA and then enjoy a nice long 7-8 hour roll.

Outside of that, 2C-D + MDMA is another highly recommended combo. 2C-D adds very little stimulation to MDMA but since 2C-D has very little character of its own in terms of head space, you get MDMA with strong phenethylamine OEVs and a more MDA-type of head space. This is another combo where the 2C-D and MDMA synergize to the point that the duration of the MDMA is extended as well. You get a good extra hour out of the peak with this combo without having to use an MDMA booster.

With both the mescaline and the 2C-D combos, the crash is pretty much non-existent. In fact, I found that I had more energy the next day after those combination than I did before I did it. Very nice afterglow when you mix the right phenethylamines with each other. Both mushrooms and LSD combined with MDMA left me pretty drained. I had a second hippy flip where I didn't panic but it wasn't much to write home about (I think the highs clash but that's just my opinion).

Oh yeah and the only good use I ever found for salvia? I would go in my walk-in closet when I was coming down from MDMA and smoke a just barely sub-breakthrough hit... I'd end my night with a euphoric comfortable trip into the world of lady salvia and then drift off to sleep as soon as the trip ended. Did that like 5 or 6 times and never once had a bad experience.
 
I've heard a lot that MDMA is dominant when it comes to flipping and when I took MDMA with shrooms it like removed all visuals as soon as it kicked in. Should the MDMA dose be around 60-80mg that it wouldnt overpower the psychedelic?
 
xammy said:
I've heard a lot that MDMA is dominant when it comes to flipping and when I took MDMA with shrooms it like removed all visuals as soon as it kicked in. Should the MDMA dose be around 60-80mg that it wouldnt overpower the psychedelic?
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I think a personal ratio will better suite your question. How much mush did you eat?
 
Mazzab said:
I think a personal ratio will better suite your question. How much mush did you eat?
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~3g of P. Cubensis followed by 120mg of MDMA. Then redosed with little under 2g of shrooms + 50mg of MDMA
 
My last hippy flip was actually unintentional haha...turns out 8g of dried cubensis was a little bit much for the setting, so before I completely lost my mind I somehow managed to get down 200mg to overpower it. Swear to god I melted into some sort of confused, orgasmic, colourful puddle right there on the bench that night.
 
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