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GACK said:
stupid idea to candy flip without ever doing lsd before? done dxm and k before, loved them both
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Imo yeh. LSD can kick your ass if you don't show it a little respect. Have you done any true psychs before?
 
i haven't but im prepared for them, i know not to freak out and i know what to expect (i do research on things before i take them), and i wont be having a dose higher than 100ug if i do it
 
Hippyflipping?

First of all, if this is in the wrong place I'm sorry. I'm not a frequent poster - though I do read a lot here. I am experience with MDMA. The last time I rolled was in mid-March and I am planning on rolling next weekend for a certain event out here in Vegas you guys may have heard of. I feel as if I have been mentally prepared to try mushrooms for about a year and a half now. I have never tried them, but I was wondering if taking ecstasy and doing shrooms at this event would be dangerous in any way? I was planning on only consuming half of an eighth and taking two medium dosed pills. I just want someone with experience to let me know if it's okay and what I'm in for. Also, the timing. Which should come first and how long thereafter should I consume the other. Thanks a lot everyone.
 
How much experience, if any, do you have with other psychedelic drugs? Mushrooms have the potential to be very intense, and adding mdma to the mix will only make them stronger. Taking a half eighth of P. Cubensis wouldn't be that strong, but other species of mushrooms may be much more potent.

I wouldn't mix the two until you know how the mushrooms will affect you, especially if you have never tripped before. Just pick one or the other. For a weekend ordeal, take the shrooms on day one and the mdma on day 2.
 
Alexander Shulgin said:
How much experience, if any, do you have with other psychedelic drugs? Mushrooms have the potential to be very intense, and adding mdma to the mix will only make them stronger. Taking a half eighth of P. Cubensis wouldn't be that strong, but other species of mushrooms may be much more potent.

I wouldn't mix the two until you know how the mushrooms will affect you, especially if you have never tripped before. Just pick one or the other. For a weekend ordeal, take the shrooms on day one and the mdma on day 2.
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I have never done any psychedelics but I figured half of an eighth wouldn't be overwhelming. Thanks for your reply. One more question, if I were to do that would it be a bad idea to smoke cannabis while shrooming? Thanks again!
 
BryanMDMA said:
I have never done any psychedelics but I figured half of an eighth wouldn't be overwhelming. Thanks for your reply. One more question, if I were to do that would it be a bad idea to smoke cannabis while shrooming? Thanks again!
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Cannabis definitely intensifies psychedelics. Wait until after you have reached the peak before smoking any, and then take it slow. It's a nice combo, but can be overwhelming if you aren't ready. Weed on the comedown is great for getting out of that awkward phase of "kinda tripping, but not really".
 
Candy Flipping

Hey BlueLight,

It is I, again, with another candy flipping question. I have become more familiar with LSD as I have barely had any experience with it the last time I asked about dosages. An outdoor EDM festival is coming up and I believe that I finally have the opportunity to candy flip after several months planning and missed opportunities. I kept getting unlucky and never had LSD and MDMA in my hands simultaneously, but I am prepared this time!

Anyways, as this is my first time candy flipping I'd like an idea of how much I should take of both substances to have a good time. Every time I try new substances I always end up doing a lot less than what's necessary to have a good time, but I'd like to get this right on my first try.

I'm a 5'11", 75kg male.

After doing some research I believe that the best way to candy flip is to first take the LSD and wait 2 hours, I tend to peak at 2.5 hours so I'll take the MDMA 30 minutes prior to my LSD peak.

For LSD I am very comfortable with 100mcg, as in it doesn't cause any OVEs (CVEs are still present), but it's enough for me to enjoy whatever I am doing be it clubbing or just listening to music with my friends. I am worried, however, that since I am comfortable with 100mcg that the MDMA may overpower the LSD leaving me with a more MDMA high than a candy flip combo. It'll be about a month since I've last done LSD by the festival date.

For MDMA I'm rather comfortable with 120mg. It would be 3 months of no-MDMA by the time the festival comes around, which is the longest break I have taken between "sessions" ever since I started doing MDMA (I usually wait about a month), so 120mg might be on the strong side.

I'm slightly nervous as I had an incident with combining MDMA and marijuana, it lead to me passing out for 10-20 seconds, so I don't want to take too much either. Marijuana does cause serious anxiety, however, so I never smoked it after that one time and it may have been the cause of me passing out due to hyperventilation. So you're probably thinking that LSD may cause anxiety, but at 100mcg it seems to act almost like a relaxant for me. You are right, though, that my slight nervousness may cause problems with the LSD.

I was initially thinking of doing 100mcg LSD and 100mg of MDMA, but I'm afraid that it may not be enough, so I'd like your guys' input on this.

Thank you.

Edit: After reading some other candy flipping posts I may be underestimating the potentiation of the two when combined.

Edit 2: The festival is two days. I'll be doing 2C-B the first day, then will be candy flipping the second day. Should I take slight cross-tolerance into consideration as the 5-HT2C receptor is a target for both LSD and 2C-B?
 
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I don't see any reason not to take a full dose of both drugs.. they synergize very well even at high doses. Candyflipping feels very safe, IMO. The euphoria of MDMA makes it very hard to have a bad time


There is already a thread for this though, and it was actually made from one of your old threads lol
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...d-MDMA-and-Psychedelics-vers-I-can-feel-color




and, yeah. There will likely be a good amount of tolerance between LSD and 2C-B
 
Hey Folley, can you kindly merge it with that thread?

Also, do you think 100mcg/100mg will be enough for an inexperienced candy flipper? I saw some of your previous posts saying you were doing 300mcg LSD with a "low" dose of 130mg of MDMA.
 
Sure thing bud


100 of each sounds like a great, yet light dose. Personally I'd opt for more around 200mcg of LSD and 150mg MDMA, but I like to get real messy.. I have found MDMA to greatly enhance high doses of LSD though, as I said the euphoria seems to take away the fear and opens you up to the experience. At a festival, that may not be the best idea however haha.. I usually do this kind of thing at home parties with close friends.


You ought to know what's best for yourself though, based on your own tolerance and so forth. I'd say 150mcg and 120mg MDMA may be good for you but then again, I am not you ;)
 
I've never had experience with LSD at doses higher than 125mcg, so 150mcg might be too intense in a crowd of strangers. I am planning to do 150mcg during a camping trip post-festival though. I'm now thinking about 125mcg with 120mg MDMA. I'll be doing 18mg of 2C-B the day before (I believe 18mg. 14mg produced almost no effects.), so I'm hoping that 125mcg of LSD will pull through. I may say fuck it, go for 150mcg, and rely on the MDMA to relieve any possible anxieties that may occur. No [controlled] risk, no reward.

I think I need to get my hands on some good magnesium. I have bruxism on MDMA, and an even worse bruxism on LSD, so I'm afraid (not really) that my jaw may snap off haha.

I've also forgotten the feeling of MDMA, so I'm hoping that the magic will return.
 
Question about candy flipping

I can't seem to find any solid answers to the correct way to candy flip, some people are saying to eat the lsd and wait 4 hours than eat the mdma, eat them both at the same time, eat the mdma followed by the lsd 30 minutes later. I'd like the drugs to peak at the same time, I really don't want to feel lethargic or anything. Also will the mdma kill my trip once it has work off? I will be taking 2 or 3 hits of liquid lsd put on altoids, and probably 150-200mg of moonrock mdma. Please feel free to tell your experiences !
 
There's already a thread for this, your other one was unique enough to merit it's own thread but I'll move this one into the existing one


I think the general consensus is that, if you want both drugs to peak at once, the best way is to take the LSD first and the MDMA around 2 hours in. I try not to set time limits though, and just take it when it feels right. Remember that the MDMA will take a while to hit, so take it about 30 minutes before you think you will hit your LSD peak. This is really one of the best combos out there, absolutely interstellar :)
 
I was planning on mixing a low dose of dmt when I was on mda+k 2 weeks ago ended up not doing it. I paranoid about my heart since it was already beating pretty fast and I have blood pressure issues. It is still pretty intense and extremely visual and immersive. Had about 1/2g of s-ket 190-200mgs of mda over the coarse of the night. 2c-b also seems like it'll mix well.
 
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