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Colloidal Silver

snake oil scam that has been debunked over and over and over for internal use. yes silver is an effective antibacterial agent when used topically .
 
it works very well topically but I would make it yourself or try to get some that is locally made. The big brands supposedly use some sort of nasty agent to keep in suspension...so I'm told. I have a friend who drinks some every day and hasn't turned blue.

Also, I have used it to cure my dogs ear infection once. Worked just as well as antibiotic drops.

PS UTFSE ;)
 
i bought a gel and a liquid (to drink) of silver for a staph infection, taking the advice of a lady i worked with at a health store. got the staph infection from a public sauna... when i finally took myself to the ER over a week into my own treatments, for whatever reason the nurse practitioner was surprised that it wasn't any worse, considering the time i reported having it (over a week, maybe even two). i applied this silver gel, and drank it daily throughout this period.

other treatments i used were fresh crushed garlic and honey (and manuka variety of honey), and turmeric. oh yea, and tea tree oil.

i can't really say that the silver did much for it, but i can't say it didn't. i know that for a staph infection the best thing to do, usually, is to see a real doctor. perhaps if you catch it early enough, like the day you see a tiny tiny red dot, bombard it with tea tree, and whatever else.. but if it's had a day or so to grow... go to a doctor.

the threat of skin turning blue in modern times with the use of silver is very small, as the particle size used in most products has developed to be small enough not to get stuck in tissues, apparently. but as with the first responder's words- to this thread... there are better methods now for dealing with infection.

silver-lined (or incorporated) underwear, socks, and whatnot for fungal deterrents might have use, and as a deterrent of general infection where there's an elevated risk for it, i might imagine it still has some use. .. but once infection sets in, bigger guns might be needed.

still, i recall reading some reported findings that silver can help to get rid of stubborn antibiotic resistant staph infections that are only greatly weakened by antibiotics...

i would say use all methods available as long as they don't conflict...
 
Sinus Flooding - colloidal silver + ?

Hey guys, im trying to do a sinus flush with colloidal silver. I have been advised to mix in XYLITOL to change the osmotic pressure in order to avoid the burning sensation similar to when you jump in a pool the wrong way...

Anyway I tried it without the xylitol and yeah, its needed :(

I dont have access to any but I do have stevia...would this do the same job or would it be dangerous?
 
I have no experience with this but what you want is for your solution to be isotonic. I believe any dissolved ions would do the job and the first thing that comes to mind to me would be a saline solution. I'm not sure what substances might be contraindicated due to the silver suspension though.

p.s. Besides being isotonic you'd also want a neutral pH so you could add a buffer of some sort if required.
 
What is your reasoning for including colloidal silver? Did you try just doing a netti pot or other means of sinus irrigation before adding colloidal silver?

I personally believe colloidal silver is far more hype than any sort of real phenomenon in most situations. Its not about my beliefs though so please tell why you are suspecting colloidal silver is a good thing to do at this point as opposed to any other remedy.

Clean_Cut said:
I dont have access to any but I do have stevia...would this do the same job or would it be dangerous?
Stevia is way different than mannitiol, xylitol, sorbitol, etc. I can not think of a reason to think it is a good substitute for xylitol but if your experience or research shows it to be good I'm all ears.
 
I'd recommend against using colloidal silver internally. In any way. Stick with salt water (0.89% by mass is best, so 8.9 g salt per litre water), warmed to just a hair above room temp for a lovely, comfortable irrigation.

Colloidal silver has such a low concentration of active (i.e. non-metallic) silver, and relies on surface oxidation for its activity. Since only traces will be left behind, it will have little to no effect. Plus, since you're dealing with some very delicate tissues, anything other than an isotonic salt solution would risk injury.
 
stick with purified sea salt imo. it works great and is tried and true.

did you do a flush with full concentration CS? I only use a few drops topically from time to time...
 
Hi guys,

I'm new here but thought Id shine some light on many confusions regarding it's use.

The formula to make pure, safe and highly effective Colloidal Silver is:

pure distilled water
Colloidal Silver generator
.9999 silver electrodes

That's it.


Colloidal Silver and Argyria

By now everyone has seen that "blue man" Paul Karason, who supposedly drank "Colloidal Silver" for many years. According to him and the mainstream media, it's the CS that turned him blue, causing Argyria.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahihGKZC5Kk

http://www.silverwell.com.au/NewFiles/Paul Karason, Blue Man.pdf

What they are not mentioning is what exactly causes Argyria and how to avoid it.

Paul Karason was using tap water with his home made CS generator.

First of all, tap water has far too many impurities (fluoride, heavy metals, chlorine etc) which creates Silver Chloride, not Colloidal Silver. Silver Chloride's silver particles are far too big, hence they get trapped within the skin and other organs and can stay there for very long periods of time, hence why the blue colour of the skin.

Colloidal silver made with tap water produces a mass of silver chloride particles as the silver ions combine with impurities. A basic silver maker without 'current control' will turn a jar of tap water into a grey soup in just a couple of minutes. And the high conductivity of the tap water means the silver content of this brew could be thousands of milligrams per litre (1000 ppm or more) thats hundreds of times higher than the CS you'd buy in a shop or safely make with a 'current controlled' generator.

To avoid argyria the rules are simple. Colloidal silver for human consumption MUST ALWAYS be made with PURE distilled, demineralised, or reverse osmosis water. Tap water, spring water, mineral water, soda water, etc is NO GOOD.

Also constant current (not constant voltage which is home made generators) is vital when making pure colloidal silver.

The voltage source may be the same or higher as constant voltage generators at the beginning of the operation but the similarity between constant voltage and constant current generators diverges rapidly. As the current flow begins to increase with increased water conductivity, the "constant current" regulator begins to reduce the voltage in order to keep the current at the desired amount of flow. With the voltage being reduced in order to keep the current constant, the silver particle size remains uniform.

I hope the above clears up any confusion regarding Argyria.


The other fact you must consider, is that Colloidal Silver has been known to "suffocate and kill" viruses, bacteria, fungi and molds.
Current antibiotics can only kill a small number of bacteria and bacteria have been known to mutate and cause more problems (MRSA).

Bacteria which has been treated with Colloidal Silver can not mutate, it simply dies. Silver disables the "chemical" lung and the pathogen dies within minutes.

When it comes to killing viruses, colloidal silver's particles have a magnetic charge, the abnormal DNA within the virus is affected by this magnetic charge and basically tied up into a bundle which makes it impossible for the virus to inject the DNA into a healthy cell. The viruses are then neutralized and eventually excreted out of the body.
Next time you have a sore throat, try drinking some properly made colloidal silver... your throat will get better within 30 minutes or less.

I cured my toe nail fungus infection which has been bugging me for the last 14 years. My toe has nearly grown out completely and looks normal again. Something that pharmaceutical creams could never do. I can't remember how much money I spend on those, lots.

In the end, high PPM Colloidal Silver is very effective against viruses, bacteria, fungi and all other pathogens.

Big Pharma is using guys like Paul Karason and Argyria to scare the masses from trying Colloidal Silver. What does Big Pharma stand to lose?
The sales of antibiotics, fungal creams, disinfectants, cold and flu drugs, cough medicines, you name it. It's a massive business. IF everyone started using CS, then the revenue from Big Pharma would take a massive dive.

If you like the idea of colloidal silver, google Dr Robert Beck protocol. The blood cleaner and magnetic pulser will pretty much heal you from any known pathogen. Sounds nuts? You bet, but it really works. Hence why it's been suppressed by mainstream medicine for so long.

Any questions, let me know.

PS Ive been drinking 1-2 cups of colloidal silver a day (in the morning after brushing teeth and at night before bed) and I am still as white as they come.
 
Oh, it's this thread again. Why can't I quit you? (why won't you stay dead? ;))

Go back and read the thread in its entirety. Your post is not incorrect as to how to make a good quality silver sol (although distilled, RO, DI and demineralized water are all different things, with different residual impurities), but that doesn't change the fact that unless you're getting silver clusters (as in < 1 nm 'particles' consisting of on the order of tens of atoms, which are not stable in solution without a passivating agent) the mass/surface area ratio means that you are wasting the bulk of the silver as the inactive metal.

The only biologically active form of silver is oxidized silver. This has been shown in the literature enough times to be beyond dispute at this point. While there is some activity from colloidal silver, it is only via surface oxidation, which even in physiological conditions is relatively slow. The vast bulk of the material is simply wasted: either accumulated (as in argyria) or excreted unchanged.

There is no conspiracy against silver-- this is speaking as someone working in silver chemistry with medical applications. In fact, there are a LOT of silver products out there... for topical use. Most are more effective than colloidal silver (based on a bacterial kill/mole silver), but there are some that are even less-- the ones that just plate silver onto some sort of wound dressing. Which people still buy like crazy because of stories like this. Anecdotal evidence is nice, but should not form the basis of a treatment program.

Silver, when taken internally, is still a huge unknown. If you've had success with it, then great. I wouldn't ever take the stuff internally. It's a blunt instrument, even moreso than antibiotics. And yes, bacteria can develop resistance to silver. How? By constant exposure to low levels of active silver, that is enough to kill the weak bugs, but only stress the tougher ones. These have been demonstrated in the literature. Give it 20 or even 15 years, and I'll bet that we'll start seeing clinical cases of silver resistant infections. People who take CS daily are in the process of developing resistant strains in their native flora as we speak. Once that shit gets out (pun intended), it will spread to or evolve into pathogenic strains.

So, from another angle: you wouldn't take streptomycin daily, would you? Assuming that CS is as effective as you say, then that's exactly what you're doing.
 
Pharmacies selling "active silver"

I saw a bottle of "active silver" on a shelf with all the vitamins and supplements at the pharmacy so I looked at the back to see what it was and it said "formerly called colloidal silver". I've never seen colloidal silver sold in a pharmacy, is this name change so they can get away with selling it or something?
 
I've seen colloidal silver sold in a pharmacy (well, technically a health food store). That company could just be trying to revamp the image of colloidal silver by selling it under a new name, sort of like when brand name pharmaceuticals lose their patent after so many years and other makers then manufacture the same product under a different name.
 
I'm not sure if it's just a matter of terminology or not, I've seen it on the websites I buy supplements from. Best known for turning heavy users blue. I think scientifically the evidence of there being benefits to taking it is extremely weak.
 
IIRC colloidal silver was toxic a la generic heavy metal toxic, but with a very low toxicity vs say antimony.

I know some dressings and devices like ET tubes have a silver compound impregnated into them as it releases silver ions which are antimicrobial but that's a whole different kind of use.
 
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