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ok, i did a search and found similar posts to what i'm looking for but not quite. still, if mods feel this is a repeat post, go ahead and close.

ok, this will be kinda long and maybe a little confusing because i don't remember some of what happened so i'm taking part of this based on what my friend told me had happened.

i smoked earlier in the day (~ 845am) and was fine throughout the entire day. i get out of school (~ 1135am) and call up my friend to smoke again. i said i would match him bowls but ended up smoking all my shit to myself (first indicator that i wasn't thinking straight). so i apologized and told him i would throw in some money to smoke his herb but he said it was cool and passed me the bong. i took a pretty big rip and started coughing but nothing unusual. all of a sudden things started to go white and i was getting dizzy. i thought i was having an anxiety attack so i calmed myself down but it didn't go away.

now, i was standing up when i took the hit and i was still holding a normal conversation even when i was seeing white so i thought i would be ok if i sat down. i couldn't find a place to sit so i decided to sit down on his hose because it was the cleanest and closest spot i could find. well instead of sitting down, my friend said i collapsed and hit his BBQ grill which was behind the hose. i remember looking at the hose and wanting to sit down but i don't remember collapsing or hitting the BBQ so he was scared shitless and started asking if i was ok. he asked me where i was, how i got there and if i knew who he was (i answered fine). he ended up escorting me to a bench where he said i laid back and closed my eyes. i don't remember any of this and really wanna know wtf happened.

i was leaning toward a panic attack but since i was talking normally, didn't seem anxious, heartrate was fine, etc. i figured that couldn't be the reason. next was the whole blood pressure thing but since i was standing up, i don't know how that could've happened either. next choice is lack of oxygen which i think is the culprit but i wanted some outside opinion/advice on this.

oh and i don't think i hit my head on the grill and i was fine after i drank some water.
 
Sounds like you had the head rush of all head rushes. Sometimes I get head rushes that feel like nitrous, like unimaginably intense. It only happens when I get really really extra high though and then take a massive rip. I've never fallen down, but I've completely blanked out in my vision several times.

I wouldn't worry about it, unless it keeps happening. If you find it's happening frequently, you might want to go see a doctor. But I'm willing to bet it was just a huge head rush.
 
Hey generation E...My story almost parallels yours. I have this waterfall bong made out of a 1.5litre bottle and a 9mm socket. This thing only takes one good rip to get a good buzz, and you're pretty much tripping after about 3. I normally smoke in my bathroom, filling the sink with water and....you get the idea. Anyway, last saturday I was home alone, bored to death, and had a bunch of dank nugs (nothing special, just good nugs, prob A- or B+), so I just started taking rip after rip on this waterfall. After about 6 rips one right after another, I packed up a 7th (I'm almost having visuals from being so high at this point), lit it, and let the chamber fill up. Next thing I know, I'm face-down on the floor, I have the 'Sonic web' or NANG NANG NANG thing, identical to whippits, going on in my head. My entire head hurts like hell, and my towel rack is on the floor next to me, with drywall bits everywhere. Needless, to say, I was confused as hell, as I didn't even remember I was smoking or that I was high, didn't remember taking a rip or anything. Best thing I can figure is that I took that 7th rip, passed out standing up, and knocked the rack off the wall with my head. It scared me for a little bit, but then I realized "Damn that was one hell of a hit!!"
 
sometimes i do that too. I almost passed smoothe out one time while driving and smoking and i came to the conclusion that i was smoking way too fast. I would take a toke and hold it for a few and then let it out and immediately take another toke. I think it is the combo of holding your breath a long time and then letting it out only to fill your lungs with another huge hit of smoke and not getting much oxygen. I may be totally wrong, but that is what i think.
 
I've heard this can happen if you're tired/don't have enough sugar in your blood/food/etc... used to happen to me rarely, but that was in my room so it's not really that scary/worrysome, since it's just a known place and you're by yourself.

Or could be something else, dunno... maybe you just got really fucking high.
 
it sounds like you reached the peak of how high you can get. you were at the highest of highs. actually sounds really fun almost like a saliva trip but not as scary
 
Yeah, I hate passing out in public though, but in a comfortable spot it's fun.

It's annoying getting high outside or something and then you get the 'stagger' perception, where shit sorta strobes at you real bad and you stumble because you're essentially sorta blacking out for a few seconds repeatedly (or else it just seems like you're staggering because you're losing perception).

That's the only thing I hate about not being able to get high where I live, you can't get as high in public.
 
jml0423 said:
it sounds like you reached the peak of how high you can get. you were at the highest of highs. actually sounds really fun almost like a saliva trip but not as scary

Yeah man, I've had some pretty scary trips by accidentally swallowing my saliva too =D
 
blase, i think you might be right. i rarely eat anything (maybe 1 meal a day) and i hadn't eaten anything yet. i think i should start eating more =[

i don't hold my smoke in, just enough to finish taking my hit then i let it out and i was smoking at a pretty slow pace because bong tokes fuck me up and i wanted to be careful that nothing happened (puking, passing out, etc.). after that hit and the coughing, damn! i was GONE.

i'm actually more embarrassed about the fact that i said i was going to match bowls of kush and ended up smoking all my weed to myself than i am about collapsing in front of my friend lol but it's all good, i'm making it up to him and another friend that was there; nobody deserves to get the shit scared outta them like that.
 
You said you were coughing, so this could be part of the reason. Bold emphasis is mine.

A type of fainting called vasovagal syncope can happen when you take a deep breath and push down but don't allow yourself to breathe out. You may do this, for example, when you urinate or have a bowel movement. It can happen when you cough hard or long. Before you faint, you may feel giddy, lightheaded, or flushed. The fainting is caused by nerve impulses that slow the heart rate. As a result, the heart temporarily pumps less blood to the brain. This is the most common cause of fainting in healthy young adults.
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I think that it was that, along with low blood sugar and lack of liquids that may have caused you to topple over.
 
Well yeah, but you get low blood pressure because you're coughing and crap instead of breathing correctly. Or breathing shallowly/zoning out for some other reason, in which case you just fall asleep/pass out.
 
^Nah, I'm sure I've read somewhere here on this site that weed actually does lower your blood pressure. I never used to cough from smoking weed, and my blood pressure would be so insanely low, I would shiver from being so cold.
Never collapsed though...
 
Diacetylus said:
^Nah, I'm sure I've read somewhere here on this site that weed actually does lower your blood pressure.


It does both.

And it can vary depending on several factors. MJ gives you lower blood pressure when standing but a higher blood pressure sitting. You also have increased blood pressure upon initial ingestion, although lower blood pressure may happen if you smoke like cheech n chong.
 
Same thing happened to my friend. He took a strong bong hit, walked into the kitchen to get water, and then fell head first into a wall. It was really weird when it happened. He said and seemed to think it was a headrush type thing.
 
Would this have any impact if you wanted to take some opiates and you took a lot and the weed lowered blood pressure?

I'm on some and this dude will smoke a small bowl with me, but I don't really want to go hassle him especially if I'm going to pass out before I got home (on 42.5mg hydrocodone, already smoked a tiny bowl and like another real tiny one after it hit, but it was before they kicked in/not enough).

But I feel pretty tired/like I could take a rip and black out.
 
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this sorta happened to me when i was younger.. smoking through a bucket on mushrooms and i came around in a cold sweat and a lump on my head, and my trip managed to go well after that:)

i think its low blood pressure.. the day after MDMA i find smoking weed makes for a very dizzy day
 
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