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Coke better to snort or smoke??????

buttercup69

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Which way gives you a better buzzzz. I wanted to try smoking but don't know how to turn it to rock or base and don't want to goto the hood!!! Any suggestions on how to rock it.
 
Lots of crack questions lately. I will write a simple FAQ. Anyone your welcome to add to it.
HOW TO MAKE CRACK (A primer by Deus. v1.0)
First you will need:
1) Stove
2) Amonia - ***IMPORTANT*** CLEAR AMONIA!
3) glass vial
4) small jar to hold vial (babyfood works well)
5) eye dropper
6) distilled water (preferable)
Step 1) Ok, take your coke and disolve it in a few mL of water (you don't need much, but make sure the coke is fully disolved) in your vial.
Step 2) Fill your small babyfood jar with water and put it in a pan on the stove thats also filled with water. Put your vial filled with coke+water in the babyfood jar.
Step 3) Heat the solution until its warm/hot but not so hot that it would hurt to put your finger in it.
Step 4) Add drop by drop amonia to the vial, you will notice a milky white percipitate form. This is the crack (or what ravers call freebase).
Step 5) Continue until you see no more precipitate form.
Step 6 - OPTIONAL) Ether is not nessisary, but if your so inclined add the ether to the vial. The crack precipitate is not soluable in water but it is soluable in the ether. This step ensures greater purity. But its not nessisary.
Step 7) Spyphen off the white layer of precipitate (that will be floating on the top) off with an eyedropper, or pipette, or whatever fits your fancy. If you used ether, syphen off the ether layer.
Step 8) Put it on a clean dry surface and let the precipitate dry. Scrape up the substance after it drys. This is your crack. If you want to be creative you could put the precipitate into molds and make some nice crackrocks.
[This message has been edited by Deus121 (edited 28 November 2001).]
 
Or option C - BANG IT!
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If you want to rock it let's make it simple. Get a shot glass, put in .5 gram good quality cocaine, .25 gram baking soda (not baking powder
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), add water to just slightly more than damp. Pop in microwave for 10-20 seconds or until it starts to dry. Remove scrape out crack and smoke in a crack pipe. Not on foil. This is not the best method but is simple, quick, and hard to fuck up. Once you graduate to full-blown crack head status you may try the ether method as the end product is of better quality.
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[This message has been edited by RJW (edited 28 November 2001).]
 
Deus's methods is easy and effective. Question though: Since ether is so flammable and there seems to have been so many accidents with it when people have tried this method, why not use a less flammable np solvent? HArdware stores carry many so acquisition can't be the problem.
RJW, microwave? Are you sure some of the coke isn;t breaking down to shit?
Does anyone know exactly how much base (sodium bicarb) is needed to liberate X amount of Cocaine HCl? I used to know how to figure something like that out but I really have no clue now.
 
FordPrefect, As I said the finished product quality using the micro method is not as good as an ether wash and that may be due to the use of the micro. The ratio for small amounts is 2 parts coke/ one part baking soda. ie. 2 grams coke 1 gram baking soda.
 
Ammonia is easy, but honestly, using a spoon and some baking soda is just as easy... ETHER? C'mon, thats insane, who is gunna go get a bottle of starting fluid then shake it for 20 minutes to get a little rock when you can make it in minutes with just baking soda?
But yeah, deus has an effective way... lets see, aside from ether, what could we use?
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
Sure the use of ether is potentially dangerous. But if handled CAREFULLY should not be a problem. Ether is used because it gives a noticeably more pure end product and a larger yield than baking soda.
 
Ether isnt used cause it gives a more pure product. It's used cause it;s a cheap, easy to find, non polar solvent. The drawback is it's has a very low fashpoint. Toluene and Xylene are both very easy to find. Most hardware stores carry one or both. They have considerably higher flashpoints than ether. Much less chance of another Richard Pryer.
 
RJW, ether isnt performing the same function as baking soda in the reaction. Ammonia is. Ether is just giving something for the cocaine base to disolve it. Ammonia, like baking soda, is liberating the cocaine molecule from the HCl.
I completely agree with Phreex. A spoon, some soda, and water does the job nicely.
 
Ok,ok, Let me rephrase. I should have said: In my experience the method using ammonia/ether yields a better product than the method using baking soda. As far as using toulene I cannot comment as I have never tried another solvent. I guess my bottom line is I have used both baking soda and ammonnia/ ethyl ether and the latter gives a much better end result every time. Obviously, the baking soda method is much quicker and safer.
 
You don't even need to use ether. You can skip that all together. It just provides a more clean syphon of the precipitate. Obviously if this is for home use just skip the ether as it can be dangerous. The vapors can "crawl" and cause an explosion feet away from where your cooking up the crack.
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Just a word from your friendly Health Q&A sponsor...smoking crack is much worse for you than snorting cocaine!
Even injecting cocaine is better for you than smoking crack...
Think about your poor lungs, people!
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You can be rich and still be a fucking moron loser who smokes crack all the time. -- Kyk
 
This ain't the health forum, in here we smoke our rocks like they are going out of style, we load our rigs with the water we find in abandon tires ... ether? Shit, when one of our own dies we chop them up, dry them, crush them to dust, then RAIL THEM!
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
What happened to the old school crack style method with a spoon, soda, a drop of ammonia and a damn lighter?
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i've never smoked rock (it's not really high on my list either), but am told that the high is harder and shorter, and the fiending is harsher ... seriously, isn't coke short enough and are the falling cravings not a serious pain anyway? just do lines. bond w/ your blade and fave hard surface
and again i ask, what is this ^^ icon? a taco? oh well, i like it.
 
No, snorting isn't enough. You don't get a *rush* like you do smoking/banging. I've only smoked rock once and it was a lot better than snorting it (but still shitty). Banging it, I've done a lot of, and you will get one of the most intense rushes of your life if you IV some good coke.
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Cocaine really is a shitty drug. I got bored with it and I don't do it NEAR as much as I use to and never smoke it anymore. Don't miss it either. Opiates (in moderation) are much user friendly!
 
PhreeX said:
[qupte]Shit, when one of our own dies we chop them up, dry them, crush them to dust, then RAIL THEM![/quote]
Wouldn't cremating them, then performing a cold-water extraction and banging the yield be both more effective and be easier on your system? I mean, c'mon...think of where some of us have been.
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