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Codine - dosage, and safe frequency of usage?

roo222

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Hi all,

New to both drugs and bluelight, just started experimenting with Codine painkillers and I have a couple of questions. I took 75mg Codine the other night (along with 1000mg paracetamol and 800 ibuprofen - just found out about CWE and will try that next time!) - the 75mg felt really nice all by itself, although I understand that's a pretty low dose? Can any experienced user give me an idea of what I can expect at various doses? Aside from the experience, I'm especially interested in how it'll affect my functionality and behaviour, as I live fairly closely with a group of friends.

What I'm most concerned about is how frequently I can take Codine without running a risk of addiction - I've read a lot of horror stories about people getting hooked just on taking regular doses. For example, does once-weekly use carry much risk of addiction? Is dosage a factor?

I understand that this sort of thing probably varies from person to person, but I'd like to get a general idea so I can make a more informed decision. Thanks in advance for any help. :)
 
With codeine, the withdrawal effects are generally mild and also you can't keep on taking it too much and too quickly because your liver needs to convert it to morphine and it can't convert more than a certain amount at a time, so I wouldn't worry too much about becoming seriously addicted to it.

If you wanna be safe (in terms of addiction), I'd say not to take more than 3 days straight constantly.
 
^The only issue being that codine can lead one to search out other more potent opiates. I would say just on the level of containing the mental addiction keep use to every other week at the most.

Even if codine is mild, being high a lot of the time can build a strong mental addiction quickly, and then send you down a dirty road where physical dependence becomes the issue.

Consider carefully and be safe.

Welcome to bL.
 
codeine takes a few years to become a full blown addiction in my experience, but it does happen that you might by chance find some more powerful opiates like hydrocodone, oxycodone, or some IM morphine and all of a sudden you ll be chasing those with a LOT more gusto than the codeine. just takes a few shitty things to happen all at ones like a relationship breakup or job loss etc and opiates bring such good relieft that you make sure youll never run out. and onece youve been thru a proper cold trukey wiothdrawal and get back on it again, you tend to guarantee your supply to make sure that doesnt happen again. opiate withdrawal of codeine is hoorendous if thats what your used to, dont be fooled. theres nothing mild about it. tread with caution and if you find you self anable to make promises of reduced use, dosages, tapers etc, your in for trouble. the sooner you can get out the batter. everyone thinks it wont happen to them but opiates are seriously addcitive and ruin many lives for may years. the lucky ones ,ight only lose 10 or 20 years of there life to it. theres nothing glamourous about it.
 
I disagree, I had a codeine habit where I was taking it daily for 2 years straight (I was taking large amounts every 3-5 hours) and once I ran out the withdrawal was very mild compared to oxycodone, heroin or methadone.
 
I took codeine, CWE 64 x 8/500 at my highest. I'd say it's right that you seek out stronger opiates eventually. Once I discovered I could use dihydrocodeine the same way I never went back to codeine. Even though it was 4x more expensive.
I'd do stronger opiates if I could get my hands on them. It's quite a slope.
 
I damaged the soft tissue in my mid thorasic area of my spine in a work accident a little over 2 years ago, I have been on pretty much open script codine 30's from my doctor ever since and the insurance company picks up the bill.

I found that my lifelong relationship with all sorts of mind altering substances, meditations and general interest in different states of consciousness made the affects of codine monitorable and manageable.

These are my conclusions of my relationship with this drug.

First of all, I like it, I guess I had noticed the affects of larger doses of painkillers (I mean larger than just taking a couple of asprins for a headach) back in my mid 20''s (20 years ago), I had trouble with my teeth for a while and took painkillers then to just kill toothaches but I remember that the affects were pleasant once the toothache had been dealt with.

Back in those days I would take 4 ibuprofens (nuforen) and 4 panadine 15's
I had no idea what I was doing, had no idea of appropriate doses, just gauged it on what made me feel woozy or sick on the stomache and didnt go past that dose.

What I found coming back to codine after all these years is I now notice and enjoy its mental affects a lot more, I guess a have had a lot more experience with altered states since my first experiences with codine and so now have some kind of internal map of hyperspace if you like, so I have been able to safely (Ithink safely anyway) fit codine into my life without any problems.

Here is the usual way I take it....

I will get a scipt filled at the chemist and that will give me 60 codine 30's
(thats 500 peracetamol and 30 codine in each pill).

At the same time I ask for pure pseudoephedrine 60's, Only available after talking to the pharacist and also requires them recording the sale on a national computer registry, this is ok, I mean a bit of an infringement on privacy but I understand that the whole point of it really is to stop me going to another 10 chenists that week and buying heaps of it that way, I guess you can make speed out of it somehow, I dont know and I dont care, seeing as this is not what I am doing its not applicable and not a problem.

the way I justify it to the chemist is that I need sinus relief for hayfever or something, and all the main over the counter ones like codral all contain paracetamol as well as the pseudoephedrine, and as I am already taking the prescription codines my doctor advised my not to take the codral cold and flu stuff because its too much paracetamol, but there are nasal and sinus relief capsules available that just contain the pseudo, nothing else. Also, for some reason these are double the strength of even the strongest cold and flu ones (they are 30's) the pure sinus ones are just 60 psuedo.

I only buy them once every 3 months or so (you get 12 in a packet) and it's totally reasonable and never raises an eyebrow with the doc or the chemist.

Ok so there I am, with heaps of codine and a small bunch of strong pure truckers speed, all legally obtained.

I Will have run out of codine a few weeks ago, I always wait when the script runs out before I re stock, it's one of the ways I avoid full on dependence and addiction to it and also it makes the affects much more pronounced with at least a 2 week break but a month is better.

First day, dive right in, take 4 codine 30's and 3 pseudo 60's

The codine seems to be at full intensity after 1 hour, then between the 1st and second hour the energy rush of the first pseudo waves start hitting, combined with the waftyness of the codine it's all happy happy fluffy cloudland for that second hour, then as the codine fades away over the following 2 or 3 hours the energy from the pseudo gives a really nice soft but speedy trip.

None of this is very full on, probably a medium +1 on shulgins scale, but definately very happy and pleasant, thats the best overall description i can give.

Then over the next week I will pretty much repeat that daily untill the pseudo is all gone, and then thats it, I have never felt like rushing out and restocking the sinus pills, I feel that I've had a great 4 or 5 days with it, lets not spoil the drug by abusing it, and also lets not diminish the beauty of the experience but getting too familiar with it, over use of anything takes away a lot of the magic and makes it boring, i have found that this has been a key priciple I have stuck too with all drugs and it has kept me safe from addiction and psychosis over many years., I went from being an LSD fiend, loved high doses, to not taking it at all for over a decade as I raised my kids, got my finances together and just worked my ass off, i never felt like a sell out to the man because I had had these lsd and other experiences in my 20's and knew that i would revisit them in the future for sure, but no need to be dependant on anything or anyone, this has also helped me in returning to psychadellics after all these years, the scary freak out areas of hyperspace dont seem nearly as powerfull or dark as the used to, as now I feel I am going in with a pretty clear slate, I dont have demons hiding in the dark closets of my mind that terrify me as i dealt with all those when I was straight, it makes the tripping experience a lot mor epositive and fun and I feel I can explore deeper with out fear of losing my mind.

Ok back to the codine, after the pseudo has run out, I will take codine pretty randomly untill it's all gone, somedays I will take 3 in the morning then 3 in the evening then have a huge day taking 4 then another 4 a few hours later.

I will always try and miss a day or 2 every 3 or 4 days, the most I have taken at once is 8, thats too much imo, 6 would be a good euphoric dose without risking getting a sick tummy or spinning out, they can get a bit spin outy especially with cannabis thrown into the mix, but a good half vomit and a half hour lie down usually fixes that right up.

I would say, dont overdo it, dont take them everyday, dont expect earth shattering visions, but taken with the right attitude and some commen sense, they can provide a really nice safe low level opiate like experience without any dangers.

Just stay in control of it, like any drug, if you have a problem with self control and addictive behavior, you shouldn't be doing it. dont be your own worst enemy then cry poor little victim me like a baby when it all goes wrong, grow up abit, then you can enjoy lots of things a lot more fully.

take care trippers, hats off to all of you.

webby
 
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