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Codeine

~edemon

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I'll be recieving an amount of Codeine soon and would like to have any outside opinions or comparisons between Codeine and, say Hydrocodone, etc. As far as I can recall, I enjoyed a bit of Codeine as much as I can remember enjoying Lortab. Was I mistaken? Basically, how does 15mg of Codeine compare to Hydrocodone? I really do have an ailing medical condition and was hoping, by buying some Codeine, to eliminate or, at least dull the excrusiating Cluster Headaches, while simultaneusly boosting my recreational well-being with a valuable opioid painkiller. Please set me straight.
 
it depends on how much hydrocodone you have (usually in vicodin you'll get either 5/500apap or 7.5/750apap) taking three 5s or two 7.5 vicodins (which is 15 mg hydcodone) will "take away your pain" in a much better way than 15mg of codeine. unless you're tolerance to opiates is extrmely low, 15mg of codeine, may at most, take your headache away.
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15mg Codiene = 2.25 mg Hydrocodone
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Comparision between Hydrocodone and Codiene... well in my opinion Hydro blows Codiene away. First few times I used Codiene it was a nice feeling, but then I tried Hydro and it was so much better. More euphoria, less light headed feeling, seemed somewhat cleaner of a high. But I did experience more nasuea from Hydrocodone than from Codiene.
15 milligrams of Codiene isnt anywhere near a recreational dose, although 15 milligrams of Hydrocodone is enough to make an opiate virgin happy. There is also a problem with Codiene tolerance. Codiene usally comes with APAP, and when your tolerance to Codiene raises, you need to take more to get the same effect. But the amount of Codiene in each pill is so low anyway, so you need to take more than a couple pills to begin with. Your then ingesting large amounts of APAP which isnt very good for the liver. Cold water extraction is always a solution though.
I hope that made sense as I tried to explain it as best as I could.
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tylenol 3 contains 30mg of codeine and 300mg of APAP.
tylenol 4 contains 60mg of codeine and 300 mg of codeine
IMO, codeine sucks if you have any opiate tollerance at all, and as people said, you usually get it with APAP, which is a liver killa. but vicodin has the same shit in it. vicodin is better, but if you're not used to it, taking "a lot" will most likely cause you to get nauseous ( a lot of people puke), which will ruin the whole point of taking it.
 
tylenol 4 contains 60mg of codeine and 300 mg of codeine
Was that supposed to say 300 mg of apap? Not tryin to be a smartass, just wondering. And what do you mean by tylenol 4?
[This message has been edited by Jungle Brotha (edited 20 July 2001).]
 
ya sorry:
-tylenol 3 contains 30mg codeine and 300 mg APAP
-tyleno 4 contains 60mg codeine and 300mg APAP (but 300mg codeine codeine would have been nice)
i don't really understand the question,"what do you mean by tylenol 4."
if you're asking if it exists, it sure does. i've had it several times. still, anyone with an opiate tolerance, codeiene doesn't really do that much to. the only thing better about tylenol 3 or 4 than vicodin (hydrocodone/APAP) is that you can take two of either them and you're still taking about the same amount of apap as one vicodin.
but after taking it for a while, none of that shit will fuck you up. for some reason, IMO darvon hcl (it's the only one with out APAP) with weed is the best combo of all of those... (assuming you can't get OC's, demerol, or morphine)
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how long is a Chinese man
 
ya sorry:
-tylenol 3 contains 30mg codeine and 300 mg APAP
-tylenol 4 contains 60mg codeine and 300mg APAP (but 300mg codeine codeine would have been nice)
i don't really understand the question,"what do you mean by tylenol 4."
if you're asking if it exists, it sure does. i've had it several times. still, anyone with an opiate tolerance, codeiene doesn't really do that much to. the only thing better about tylenol 3 or 4 than vicodin (hydrocodone/APAP) is that you can take two of either them and you're still taking about the same amount of apap as one vicodin.
but after taking it for a while, none of that shit will fuck you up. for some reason, IMO darvon hcl (it's the only one with out APAP) with weed is the best combo of all of those... (assuming you can't get OC's, demerol, or morphine)
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how long is a Chinese man
 
Codeine will make you a bit more drowsy as it is weaker and does have a shorter span then Hydrocodone. For me, Hydrocone gets me "up" while Codeine requires ALOT to get high, and by this point, I am basically super tired. Bottomline, Codeine is fun (when you are bored), but is a rather weak and short-spanned opiate. If you can get your little paws on something more powerful, I would do so, if not, happy consumption and sweet dreams..
 
Well, the bottom line is this: I couldn't, no matter what I did, get my hands on anything but this Codeine. As I mentioned in the origional post, I have a legitimate condition- Cluster headaches. Now, I'm not the amazing man that has withstood more pain than anyone else on Earth, but I and anyone who has ever met me would consider these to be chronic cluster headaches, ranging from severe to suicidal pain, one to three times daily. I found what I heard to be a "sympathetic" doctor of the area, set up an appointment, dressed real swell, and plead my case. I had hoped for Lortab. Lortab feels pretty nice, but it's no Percocet. It releives me from my head problems for a week at a time. I was told that my problem isn't severe enough for a narcotic painkiller. Fine. I only wish that I could somehow transfer one of the least painful headaches I've had into the doctor's head for five minutes, then we'd see what he'd prescribe.
 
I'm not trying to whine, but c'mon. It really sucks and I'd just prefer to use what works, rather than being a guinnea pig for 6 months to a year, spending all of my money on copays and prescriptions of Imitrex that will not only not help, but leave me with coronary artery disease or something. I already know that Lortab works and would just like to go with that instead of months of cat scans and testing and time consuming frustration.
 
Realistically-- if you are getting "suicidal" pain from cluster headaches, you need to concentrate on not doing anything to make the condition worse.
Because cluster headaches are VERY strongly correlated with drug, alcohol, and tobacco use, continuing to abuse painkillers probably isn't a good idea.
Another consideration is that you NEED the painkillers for relief of your headaches, and using them all, or developing a tolerance due to consuming large quantities, or making your doctor wonder if you are abusing them, isn't a good idea.
Do what you will.
 
Special kid, what I meant was, where do you get tylenol 4? Is it an ssri like vocodin or hydrocodone? And do you need a prescription?
 
Vicoden isnt an SSRI, its a pain killer. And yes you need a prescription to obtain Tylenol 4's.
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"So modify this third rock from the sun, by painting myraids of pictures with the colors of one"
 
s'pose you did a water extraction on like a bottles worth of T3 and took 60 mg's of codeine. or perhaps more, like 80 or a 100, i'll have to check erowid for a good dosage...anyway, would the codiene extract be fun?
 
You can do the cold water extraction on a whole bunch of painkillers and drink the vile tasting codeine-water that is the end result. I have taken a dose of ~160mg of codeine in this fashion, but it was a bit wank really - especially considering I have no opiate tollerance.
If you are going to do the extraction, I would recomend getting some proper laboratory filter paper - using coffee filters takes infinitely longer and they clog up far too easily. Ideally you would have some kind of vaccum source to do it properly...
 
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