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Codeine and CWE Megathread - The long awaited!

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brighton said:
Why is this? I really really want to know as it happens to me sometimes :\
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I believe he was talking about opioid tolerance in that post; getting basically nothing out of the dose anymore but still using because in your mind, you can't relax without the drug.

Pinkanga said:
So true. So often a codeine session just does not work at all. No associated euphoria or just anything that you'd expect from an opiate, but I still find value in it because I force myself to sit, relax and still my mind and enjoy the codeine. And thats where the psychological addiction can come into it because you feel you need the codeine to be able to properly relax and still the mind.

Its about being strong and figuring out what works for you.
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I was having a conversation about this exact thing yesterday, but on a more personal level I suppose. For years codeine or other opioids have been my go-to-tool for dealing with stress, depression, anxiety, traumatic events and that plus benzodiazepine use I feel has severely impacted my ability to deal with these things properly now. Which just leads to the 'need' to use the crutch again... it's a cliche, but it really, truly is a cycle that you get caught in.
 
^ I usually use straight DHC tabs and occasionally top up with CWE.
I suspect codeine doesnt work after DHC, as it seems to work fine if I have it before/ at the same time as DHC
 
For those 'discovering' panadeine extra, all I can say is I totally agree. The resulting solution I get from a pan extra CWE is ALWAAAAYS crystal clear. In the same way that pan forte CWE's are ALWAYS crystal clear.

No sources but I will say that I order pan extra from legit online Australian pharmacies on a consistent basis. Easy, convenient, cheap(usually) and arrives in your letterbox. No chemist bullshit to deal with.
 
brighton said:
^ I usually use straight DHC tabs and occasionally top up with CWE.
I suspect codeine doesnt work after DHC, as it seems to work fine if I have it before/ at the same time as DHC
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straight dhc? are they prescription-only in nz, or is it an over-the-counter med?
 
Yeah I've been doing 3 or 4 cwe's (each with 8x 30/500mg) a day for the last 2 months (each cwe i do I use 3 coffee filters and the solution is crystal clear- indistinguishable from water) - and am slowly stopping find the psychological aspect of the whole ritual to be and activities I do on codeine the most trying, there seem to be next to no withdrawals. Just need to condition my damn mind.
 
tyrael said:
No, it's been discussed in length previously - basically one can be hypo- to hyper-metabolisers of codeine (or any drug for that matter) leading to extreme (or none at all) effects. The physiology specifics can be found in earlier posts (a number of times explained by myself if you want to checkout my posts in this thread).
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Sorry, I have read previously in this thread that metabolism rate varies on individual; but I never knew it varied that much! Seriously, when I first ever did codeine (3rd January 2011, don't ask me how I know the date) I used about 120mg and felt next to nothing. The next day I tried it again and got large effects from approximately 240mg.
On another note, I tried about 700mg of codeine from panadeine brands (one product had 40 pills of 15mg codeine/500mg paracetamol) yesterday, and never have my codeine experiences been as successful as that experience. It's quite good to know that my tolerance isn't through the roof, and that I can actually get some effects. But I might may off it for a while.
 
Yeah thats usually y i end up doing it 3 or so times a day - the first 2 usually don't do anything then I hit sweet spot with third. I wonder if it would be different were they pure codeine pills, maybe the yeilds of each cwe vary ?
 
DoctorChemX said:
Codeine for me is an undeniable 'pleasent'
feeling. It's like morphine just much much
weaker. Methadone on the other hand doesn't
really make me feel anything other than it stabilizes
my emotions somewhat, in the 40-60mg range.....
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Lol codeine basicly is a lowish dose (depending on how much codeine you dose) of morphine. when codeine goes through the liver roughly %10 of the dose is converted to morphine :) so if you were having 400mg of codeine you would be aprox having 40mg of morphine
 
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Whosajiggawaaa said:
Yeah thats usually y i end up doing it 3 or so times a day - the first 2 usually don't do anything then I hit sweet spot with third. I wonder if it would be different were they pure codeine pills, maybe the yeilds of each cwe vary ?
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It shouldn't vary that much, unless you are drastically altering your method in between each CWE. Your method of doing multiple CWEs in a day is interesting though, I think that might be doing the trick.
 
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went down to the supermarket and bought coffee filters... so much better than hankies or shirts, you can just throw away the filter with the goop in it and you have the clearest end product, just like tap water.
 
I have found (after hundreds of expiriences with CWE, paracetamol and ibuprofen) that a pillow case cut up, placed over the cup, all the shit poured in and leave it go is the best way, I think that if you let it go longer it filters better and more codeine is in the final product. Coffee filters suck for ibuprofen, say you are using 60+ tablets of that shit in a coffee filter, you will get to a point that it will go so slow that I think it actually stops. I want some opiates now!
 
Remember that it says on the first page not to put the entire solution into the coffee filter, as it's susceptible to damage a lot more than a shirt, for example. The coffee filter is really used after you've filtered the solution through the shirt/pillow-case etc.
 
Got a new box, never seen before: 40 x 500/15
Pharmacist Formula its a "tabsule"

I was always under the impression with 15mg you could only buy in 24 packs this makes me happy :)

Little harder to crush but two spoons got it done :) now we wait,

Ohh yeaaah feelin good :) good value, just a couple more bucks than the padeine extra 15's and almost double the amount :)
 
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^ Yeah if you search in this thread for 'Mydol' or go back a few pages I posted up something about how this is legally allowed because the TGA doesn't state 15mg of codeine phosphate, rather 15mg of codeine.

It is much better value for money. :)
 
Mr Blonde said:
^ Yeah if you search in this thread for 'Mydol' or go back a few pages I posted up something about how this is legally allowed because the TGA doesn't state 15mg of codeine phosphate, rather 15mg of codeine.

It is much better value for money. :)
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I come across a brand similar to this. This may come off as a stupid question, but is Mydol on a commercial scale? So I'd have no trouble getting OTC at most large pharmacies?
 
Havent seen it anywhere. But just managed to find an online pharmacy that sells it.
 
Nozphexezora said:
I come across a brand similar to this. This may come off as a stupid question, but is Mydol on a commercial scale? So I'd have no trouble getting OTC at most large pharmacies?
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Not sure how wide spread it is, but it was the first brand to do this and months ago the company that makes it (can't remember who) sent faxes to interested parties letting them know the product was going to be available and why it was legal, which is why it's the brand I most associate with this 40*15mg codeine. It does not seem to be very widespread as far as I can tell. Some pharmacists may have personal objections to selling it.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Not sure how wide spread it is, but it was the first brand to do this and months ago the company that makes it (can't remember who) sent faxes to interested parties letting them know the product was going to be available and why it was legal, which is why it's the brand I most associate with this 40*15mg codeine. It does not seem to be very widespread as far as I can tell. Some pharmacists may have personal objections to selling it.
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Interesting. It must have been the brand I got the other day. They said they literally got it in just the day before. Well, the future looks a little brighter now. :D
 
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