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Codeine and booze

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WayneRooney

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I'm a newcomer to codeine. But I've found around 200mg to be my ideal dose on numerous occasions now. And with alcohol, whilst I'm no alcoholic, I tend to have 2 or 3 beers every other night or so.

So would it be that irresponsible to combine the two? In those doses.
 
While it may not be irresponsible, it is dangerous to mix opiates and alcohol.

In my opinion (and my experience), mixing more than a single serving of alcohol with opiates ruins the opiate experience anyway.
 
It is irresponsible if you can't gauge your tolerance...

Many people abuse both together. There is nothing wrong with it if you know what you are doing.

If you aren't really getting a decent buzz from the codeine, added alcohol buzz can't hurt.

But, if you are nodding out on codeine already, alcohol may be a no go.

But if you are an alcoholic, you may need at least a beer for comfort and to prevent you from going into WD from alcohol.
 
Psychedelic Jay said:
It is irresponsible if you can't gauge your tolerance...

Many people abuse both together. There is nothing wrong with it if you know what you are doing.

If you aren't really getting a decent buzz from the codeine, added alcohol buzz can't hurt.

But, if you are nodding out on codeine already, alcohol may be a no go.

But if you are an alcoholic, you may need at least a beer for comfort and to prevent you from going into WD from alcohol.
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I said I WASN'T an alcoholic. Its just I will have had a couple of beers before I take 200mg codeine tonight. I'm just wondering whether it would be outrageously stupid to have another one or two after that. Obviously I'll gauge the effects I'm getting off the codeine and may not even feel like a beer. But if I do, would it be that bad.

You say there is nothing wrong with it if you know what you're doing. Well I sort of don't tonight. In the past I've had a few beers during my codeine buzz, and enjoyed it. But never had a couple before.....
 
WayneRooney said:
I said I WASN'T an alcoholic. Its just I will have had a couple of beers before I take 200mg codeine tonight. I'm just wondering whether it would be outrageously stupid to have another one or two after that. Obviously I'll gauge the effects I'm getting off the codeine and may not even feel like a beer. But if I do, would it be that bad.

You say there is nothing wrong with it if you know what you're doing. Well I sort of don't tonight. In the past I've had a few beers during my codeine buzz, and enjoyed it. But never had a couple before.....
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I'm pretty sure you will be fine. Remember, taking them in close proximity means you have combined them before already.

You won't be overwhelmed if they are not peaking at the same time.
 
Alcohol really would ruin the true opiate experience. If you really want to try it I'd say have one or two beers before or right after taking it. I don't see huge danger, but the combo might not be as good as opiates alone.
 
Alex000 said:
Alcohol really would ruin the true opiate experience. If you really want to try it I'd say have one or two beers before or right after taking it. I don't see huge danger, but the combo might not be as good as opiates alone.
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Although there probably wouldn't be a danger at a low dose of codeine and one or two beers, as a general rule mixing opioids and alcohol is pretty risky - especially for someone who is new to codeine. There is no way of knowing how you will react, some people are super-sensitive.. and also I feel it is always best to try new drugs on their own first, so you can get a really good feel for their effects and what feels safe.
 
ethanol is a known 2D6-enzyme inducer; codeine is metabolized into morphine by 2D6. most people prefer take drink 1-2 glasses/bottles/shots/beers ect.. 30 minutes before they dose their codeine for these reasons. don't go overboard with the alcohol though. both codeine and alcohol are known to cause respiratory depression and nausea...
 
Well that was disappointing.

Got a little bit of a feel from the codeine, but nothing like what I've felt before off 200mg. So most likely the drink diminished the effects, like some of you predicted. Unless I messed the cwe up. Though I don't think I did. Oh well,
 
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Well that was disappointing.

Got a little bit of a feel from the codeine, but nothing like what I've felt before off 200mg. So most likely the drink diminished the effects, like some of you predicted. Unless I messed the cwe up. Though I don't think I did. Oh well,

Was looking forwards to something a little more intense for this Saturday night. I've nothing but md left now. And its not the time nor place for that. Damn.
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Most likely tolerance is your real enemy here. 200 mg of codeine isn't going to buzz your forever.

Doing it for days in a row at the same dose is not going to cut it. The alcohol had no blame. Tolerance does.

The alcohol probably made you feel more than you should have off of this regular dose of codeine.

Either move up the opiate chain, or take a nice break off the codeine. Codeine is a fairly weak drug. And you even said yourself that this is one of your numerous occasions.

I call tolerance.
 
laCster said:
ethanol is a known 2D6-enzyme inducer; codeine is metabolized into morphine by 2D6. most people prefer take drink 1-2 glasses/bottles/shots/beers ect.. 30 minutes before they dose their codeine for these reasons. don't go overboard with the alcohol though. both codeine and alcohol are known to cause respiratory depression and nausea...
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yep.

i find drinking on opioids to be disappointing for the most part as well; detracts most of the appeal. a few standard drinks is alright, but nothing more.
 
Alcohol induces CYP2D6 only if you are an avid drinker.

It has very little effects in the short term.

Long term drinkers are more likely to get a better effect out of codeine.

Remember guys: That ten percent conversion of codeine to morphine is in regular livers. So that would mean a lot more enzymes to saturate if you are a chronic drinker.

Might even be at least double... What do you guys think?
 
Psychedelic Jay said:
Alcohol induces CYP2D6 only if you are an avid drinker.

It has very little effects in the short term.

Long term drinkers are more likely to get a better effect out of codeine.
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true, i wouldn't want to go through cirrhosis just to test it out but alcohol is still listed on guides as CYP2D6 inducer and many people recant anecdotal posts agreeing with the potentiation of codeine.
 
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true, i wouldn't want to go through cirrhosis just to test it out but alcohol is still listed on guides as CYP2D6 inducer and many people recant anecdotal posts agreeing with the potentiation of codeine.
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I wouldn't think that you would have to drink heavily. Just drink a smidgin here and there all day.

I drink about the amount of 12 %10 beers in three days and sometimes hard partying on weekends. My liver test are usually slightly elevated.

I take lyrica as prescribed daily as well. I take oxycodone on the weekends around 100 mg in two days.

>>>Basically, I am saying testing this is out of the question for me as my tolerance is too high.<<<

I would like to hear about it in the future if anyone has good experiences.
 
it's a weak inducer so unless you were drinking heavily i'd imagine experiencing only minor subjective difference. with evidence of C6G (Codeine-6-Glucuronide) being the major metabolite responsible for analgesia nothing is confirmed for euphoria as far as i know.
 
I think it goes
Codeine before booze, you're going to lose.
and
drink booze and when your sober
drink condeine and no hangover

not really.....
it kinda works 8(
 
Codeine and booze will leave me cloudy the next day, but no physical hangover from booze, just slow and refreshed.

LMAO I love the morning after on booze and any opiate...
 
I don't think it was tolerance. I've rarely used Codeine. Maybe 5 or 6 times in 4 months. And I've only worked my way up to 200mg the last couple of times.

I think I was too drunk. Even though I wasn't that drunk.

Next time I'll be sober.

Oh, and I woke up during the night feeling absolutely awful. Stomach pains and nausea. Feel better this morning.
 
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