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Opioids Codeine and Alcohol.

Don42

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Hey people,


So whats the story on mixing both these substances? I already know in theory its bad for you, and your not meant to do it, because their both Central nervous system depresssents, and can slow your breathing etc etc....

But it's not really a lethal mixture is it? I'm not talking about getting drunk as hell, and then swallowing like 10 pills, but say taking 50 or 60 mg's of Codeine, and having 2 beers or so.....that's hardly enough to kill me is it?

The reason I ask is cause i'v heard people say if you get the proper amount of each the buzz can be excellent, as they coth complament each other very well. While other people just said dont do it, bad idea, will kill you etc.

Would prefer to hear from people who have mixed them before, but willing to read replys from all :). Thanks.
 
Yes, it can be very excellent. But, are you opiate tolerant? Opiate naive? But, that small dosage of codeine should be fine, honestly. What you'd be worried about, is the tylenol that comes with the codeine, and the alcohol. Both can be VERY bad for your liver.

But doing such low dosages, and only 2-3 beers, you SHOULD be fine.

Wouldn't this be better suited for BDD?

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Yes, it can be very excellent. But, are you opiate tolerant? Opiate naive? But, that small dosage of codeine should be fine, honestly. What you'd be worried about, is the tylenol that comes with the codeine, and the alcohol. Both can be VERY bad for your liver.

But doing such low dosages, and only 2-3 beers, you SHOULD be fine.

Wouldn't this be better suited for BDD?

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Well I woulden't consider myself truly tolerant, or Naive. I took 100 mg's of Codeine before and felt nothing from it....

No worrys about the other stuff, I can do a CWE. But the question is it even worth taking that little amount of Codeine with only 2 beers? I prob wont feel it.
 
Come onnn I know you people want to answer.......I need to know by toinngght!
 
Thats it my son......here it comes, i can sense an answers close...
 
off you go to the "i have a superpower" thread in philosophy/spirituality

sensing an answer one minute off, ur totally future seeable yo

Yeah man haha! I just knew it was coming. Anywho I had 120 mg's of codeine, and 3 beers. It's very enjoyable......zzzzzzz
 
yeah i use to CWE 300+mg and then drink a 6 pack. Its the apap that I would be concerned about the most.

Depends on your tolerance, but yeah like you said 120mg codeine phosphate and 3 beers sounds nice...

I will take codeine but its not my top choice because its not strong enough for what I want, but its better than nothing. I'm glad you are able to truly enjoy this substance at those low amounts, thats a good thing.
 
yeah i use to CWE 300+mg and then drink a 6 pack. Its the apap that I would be concerned about the most.

Depends on your tolerance, but yeah like you said 120mg codeine phosphate and 3 beers sounds nice...

I will take codeine but its not my top choice because its not strong enough for what I want, but its better than nothing. I'm glad you are able to truly enjoy this substance at those low amounts, thats a good thing.



Thanks man, I cant really get much of a buzz off the codeine, unless I drink a little bit with it. took 100 mg's before on no drink, and felt nothing. but with drink its a grand buzz...
 
yeah i use to CWE 300+mg and then drink a 6 pack. Its the apap that I would be concerned about the most.

Depends on your tolerance, but yeah like you said 120mg codeine phosphate and 3 beers sounds nice...

I will take codeine but its not my top choice because its not strong enough for what I want, but its better than nothing. I'm glad you are able to truly enjoy this substance at those low amounts, thats a good thing.



btw 300mg and a six pack?? shiiiit, you must have a serious tolerence.
 
Why is Codeine the queen of the opiots??? I just dont understand. So much nice feeling, so little risk of addiction or harm.......well ok so their is a fairly serious risk. But nothing compared to its harder opiot cousins.
 
Why is Codeine the queen of the opiots??? I just dont understand. So much nice feeling, so little risk of addiction or harm.......well ok so their is a fairly serious risk. But nothing compared to its harder opiot cousins.
You go and say that to the many people who've suffered at the hands of codeine addiction; from what I read it's nothing to joke about!
Plus 1 messed up CWE in a large amount of codeine/APAP mixture can quite easily post serious harm to anyone!
Say someone with a 1g codeine tolerance, for some reason uses generic t1's - 8/500.

That's 125 pills, yielding 62.5g of APAP, assuming a good extraction process removes 80% of the tylenol that's still 12.5g left in the solution.
Anywhere above 4g a day causes serious liver damage - the addition of APAP to the codeine pills really does pose serious harm to any legal opiate user.
 
Why is Codeine the queen of the opiots??? I just dont understand. So much nice feeling, so little risk of addiction or harm.......well ok so their is a fairly serious risk. But nothing compared to its harder opiot cousins.

Yep. I've been addicted to codeine for years (didn't even realise I was for a while...just thought it was a cold or the shits or whatever) Then a year ago I discovered pods:\guess where I heard about them lol...

But yep, codeine is regarded (rightly) as oxy/hydro/pods weak cousin, you'll read those sentiments on this forum. I'm off pods now, mainly with the help of codeine.

3-400mg codeine gives a lovely social buzz, especially when potentiated properly & accompanied with a couple glasses wine & a smoke. If you got some loperamide & booze/benzos the withdrawals are minimal. Its as far down the opiate road I want (dare) to go.
 
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You go and say that to the many people who've suffered at the hands of codeine addiction; from what I read it's nothing to joke about!
Plus 1 messed up CWE in a large amount of codeine/APAP mixture can quite easily post serious harm to anyone!
Say someone with a 1g codeine tolerance, for some reason uses generic t1's - 8/500.

That's 125 pills, yielding 62.5g of APAP, assuming a good extraction process removes 80% of the tylenol that's still 12.5g left in the solution.
Anywhere above 4g a day causes serious liver damage - the addition of APAP to the codeine pills really does pose serious harm to any legal opiate user.



Yeah I know what you mean by the CWE problem, but the pills I use have 12.8 mg's Codeine, and 200 mg's of Ibuprofen. My current limit would be about 150 mg's of Codeine, haven't gone beyond that dose yet, soo thats not so much Ibuprofen, and I often CWE twice just to make sure, I catch as much of that shit as possible.

Yeah I dont mean to sound Naive, I know its an addictive substance, but it is probably the weakest opiot, and I agree with the man below me. As far down the opiot road as I personally would dare to go.
 
A long time ago I dosed codeine a few times when already drunk, never seemed to do shit but make me sick. Now I am a lot more used to codeine I can feel it even when rat arse pissed, but it is overpowered by the alcohol a bit.

CYP2D6 is the liver enzyme that is responsible for conversion of codeine to morphine, alcohol is a mild inducer of CYP2D6 and in theory should help your liver metabolise codeine more efficiently atleast a little.

I like to consume 1-2 standard drinks in the half hour lead up before I dose codeine, just to get them liver enzymes working extra hard in time for my dose. I generally have another 1-2 standard drinks as my codeine starts to come on. I feel like the slight sedation and sense of well being from the alcohol definately adds to the high when kept in such small quantities. Especially if I have also taken a light benzo dose to compliment my codeine.

It is entirely subjective, some people like it while others don't. I would suggest people with low tolerance to opiates and/or irregular drinkers are less likely to favour this combo as it is likely to make them nauseas.
 
I actually found this a beautiful combo, note I'm a poor metabolizer - I can take 200mg with barely above baseline effect, but 120mg combined with 5 or 6 beers was amazing. Far greater than the sum of it's parts, sedating and euphoric. But to note after 5 minutes of getting home I fell asleep on my desk, halfway through a conversation on Facebook ;)
 
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