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Opioids Codeine 650/30 question

pimmeldisko

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Sorry if this question has already been answered. Search doesnt work for me.

I just found (yes, found!) a box of "Codeine 650/30". Theres 8 Pills in it. The content per pill is 650mg of paracetamol and 30mg of codeine.

Can I actually get high of this? Or am I just holding some strong pain killer for my next hangover.
The way I see it, I can take 2-3 Pills max. or I may overdose on paracetamol. I dont think I wanna do the extraction process...seems complicated.

Opinions?

Thanx.
 
the extraction process is anything but complicated, honestly.

-Crush up all the pills in a bowl.
-add some luke warm water and stir until there are no solid bits just sludge. Add just enough water to cover the pills, you can add a little more but it just means you will have to wait for it to filter a little longer.
-put it in the fridge/freezer until the sludge is nice and cold to touch (maybe 15 mins?)
-Filter it through 3 filter papers inside one another (be SURE to fold over the bottom of the filter papers when you put them in each other).

That is it.

What is your codeine / opiate tollerance? taking just 2-3 will only give you 60-90mg codeine.
 
Silly me. Just realized that it´s really super simple. I´ll do that (crush em, add water, stir, let cool off, filter, chug).

I´ve never tried codeine or any other opiates. Since my 8 Pills will give me 240mg, I will start with 120mg and see how it goes. Maybe take 120mg more after 2 hours or just keep em for next time.

Thanx mate.
 
where are you from?

I needed atleast a full pack (256mg codine) to feel anything my 1st time but I am quite big.

You may want to take an antihistamine, however I think the histamine release at 240 will be just nice enough for a good scratch :)

My dosing is usually a little high so you may want to stick with 120, but if i was you I wouldn't ;) You cannot add more codeine later as it inhibits itself.

If you have access to any DXM take a theraputic dose 45 mins before (30-50mg). Does wonders for the opiate.
 
From Germany. Rx Drugs are not very popular here since we can get all the good stuff easily. I´ll just go with 120mg of codeine and see what happens. If nothing happens...eff it, I´ll use the 4 leftover pills for my next hangover.

The antihistamine is a good advise. Just any allergy med will do?

A few more questions:

How long does it take to kick in if used this way? How long does it last? Can I sleep afterwards? Do I have to expect a hangover the next day after 120mg?

Thanks a ton.
 
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Sedating antihistamines like promethazine, diphenhydramine, chorpheniramine, etc are what you want to use. I don't know the German brand names.

You shouldn't have a hangover. And if you take a sedating antihistamine with it you will sleep fine. Should take around 90 minutes to kick in. Maybe a bit longer if you have a full stomach.
 
I have to disagree with that, I feel it kick in withing 20 minutes, at 90 minutes the bulk of it is over. You should dose on an empty stomach.

You must not take promethazine before the codeine as it will stop any morphine conversion and render the whole process useless. Take the anti histamine at T+30 mins

You can sleep just fine and there will be no hangover.
 
Allright, thanks guys. I dont know if I have a antihistamine at home, but I´ll see. Probably gonna try it on sunday.
 
120mg will be a threshold dose, 240 you can have yourself a pretty good time for a couple of hours if it's your first time.

Well, I read a lot of threads now. A lot of people say they got sick and had terrible hangovers of a higher dosage than 120mg. I dont really wanna take risks here. And now I´m confused...
 
i very much doubt that many people at all get a hangover from 120mg codeine. I was not even aware that codeine gave a hangover, I have never experienced one. Why would it?...

I say go for 240mg, you will probably loose some in the extraction and the worst that can happen is you feel a bit ill for a short period. Nothing resembling a hangover will be present.
 
That's weird - 650/30? You're never supposed to take more than 1g of APAP/paracetamol per 4 hours, so the cocktail's usually 500/30 in European codeine/apap cocktails.

CWE'ing is easy enough - but impatience or a bad filter can let too much APAP through. Either google around for CWE instructions, filter the solution twice and use very little water - 50 mls should be enough - and don't use Melita brand filters, as they're full of holes, or keep the pills for hangovers.

But frankly, if you're opiate naive, I'd start with 120, just in case you're extra-sensitive: or better yet, save the pills for killing pain (which we can rely on to occur) and, if you are going to try opiates recreationally, wait until some better pharms come along. Even with promethazine, codeine is very short-acting and depending on how practically/technically minded you are, it can take some practice to perform a CWE. Without opiate tolerance, you have a one-pill hangover cure that you could take with a little ibuprofen (or an ibuprofen/codeine cocktail, if they're OTC in Germany, as in much of the EU) and rebound from a big night mixing beers and cocktails or whatever.

Low-dose opiates, without tolerance, are much more useful for legitimate painkilling use than recreational, and if you want to experiment, my German friends never seem to have trouble finding opiates, from H (not a good place to start, either) to oral morphine and DHC. Dihydrocodeine is much, much more pleasant than codeine simple, and I think quite common in Germany and Austria, also, there's no ceiling effect, so you can try 30mgs (the usual low-dose prescription), give it 90 minutes, take another 30, etc, if you want to/till you're where you want to be). Keep the pills you have, and if you're going to try opiates, I'd say get them in a pure form, rather than starting into CWE's. They're always a little risky - and just not worth it for 240mgs of codeine. Still, if you're intent on trying, filter carefully, and like other posters have said, you need a sedating anti-histamine: either diphenhydramine/doxalymine succinate (former usually sold, in Europe, as an OTC sedative) taken 60-90 minutes BEFORE the codeine, or, ideally, Promethazine (Phenergan/Sominex in the UK at least), 30-45 minutes AFTER the codeine. Otherwise you may scratch till you bleed - codeine's not great at letting the endorphins fly, but it does give you one well of a histamine rush, and any of the above anti-histamines improve the codeine experience, whether through synergy or potentiation.

Sorry for the long answer to a simple question, but I'm prescribed 500/30s for migraines, and although I now have a pretty high opiate tolerance, it all started with CWE'ing codeine: which led on to harder opiates, and also left me without painkillers when I actually needed them. If you're remotely prone to addiction/binge-drinking, then it's probably a good idea to stay away from opiate highs and use them only in circumstances of legitimate medical need. A lot of people on BL, if we could go back in time, would NOT take that first taste again - whether codeine or H or vicodin or whatever, even a little can be the first step on a long, long journey downwards. I'm not moralising - I still use, and probably always will, occasionally, but I lost a good few years to addiction, and it all began with kratom and codeine.

Either way, play safe and enjoy.
 
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No, I said H and pharms aren't hard to find in Germany - and they're better for getting high than a CWE, if you're intent on an opiate high. No contradiction: it's better for most of us to avoid non-medicinal opiate use, but, knowing that, if you're determined to get high on opiates, codeine's a shitty place to start - especially when pure dihydrocodeine tablets are widely prescribed in Germany/Austria, and European H quality is so low these days that I'd be hard-pressed to chose, even with a fairly high tolerance, between a small amount of smoked H (No 3 here) and a large amount of DHC. Also, CWE'ing can be insidious when codeine's OTC: even though you get rapidly diminishing returns, it's easy to end up with a habit. If you're going to get high, then low-dose dhc or even oral morphine are superior in every way to any quantity of codeine, and you don't have to fuck around with disposing of the APAP.

Better to keep painkillers with that much APAP and that little codeine in them for pain and not develop a tolerance: if you're determined to try opiates sooner or later, I don't think a CWE is a good place to start. Whereas DHC would be - easy to titrate dose upwards. and a fairly commonly prescribed painkiller here. I didn't mean to suggest the OP try H - I'll edit my post, I'm a little dopey.

It's probably the dope and valium.
 
the first time I tried them I used 90mg, and it was a nice tired euphoric feeling and it's very subtle. try 1-2 to make sure you aren't allergic to codeine or hypersensitive. 150-180mg made me nodd and feel euphoric without feeling anxious or overly nauseous
 
So...I did 180mg about 40 mins ago. Started feeling fuzzy and warm/happy after 20 mins. Arms and legs are heavy...no itching so far. I like it. When will it peak and how long will it stay before it wears off?

Not bad for a hang over day so far :)

Thanks for all the advise for this :)

Oh well, I guess it peaked. Any way to make it stay longer than an hour or two?
 
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