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Codeine/~350mg/The good the bad and the itchy

shehasaname

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Yesterday, I had a very long dream about using codeine recreationally, as I have been very interested in opiates recently, and I'd like to see what everyone thinks about this.

The reasoning behind the dream is that my dream self (MDS) had started off her opiate adventures by using CWE to extract codeine from pills in the past weeks.

She started by using 7 8/500mg pills and experimented with long time intervals in between a couple more times - the highest dose MDS experienced was approximately ~254mg, her calculations and yield checked out in practice. She liked the high, the warm comforting, cozy sensation all over her body, the aiding of letting go of unnecessary anxious thinking patterns and 'opiate dreaming'/(nodding?) in the garden while it was sunny and hot.

However, after app. 6-10 experiences, MDS decided that she didn't want to put strain on her liver if larger-than-safe doses of acetaminophen were getting into her final product - she wasn't happy with being unable to calculate or test the doses of what she was ingesting so she decided to stop CWE.

That's not to say that MDS was happy with her experience of codeine. She was curious, so she did a little research and obtained a 200ml bottle of codeine linctus OTC (UK), which contained 15mg codeine per 5ml. She was excited, despite the many other ingredients in the syrup; many E#s; colouring agents and sweeteners.

She was glad there was nothing more harmful in there such as chloroform. Within the space of 5-30mins, she ingested 210mg with water. It was bitter and excessively sweet, just as MDS expected. Approx. 25 mins after ingestion, MDS started feeling a heavy, dirty head buzz - not unlike starting to feel hungover from lots of mixed alcohol. Her scalp also became abnormally itchy and flaming hot, when she looked in the mirror, her face was bright red.

MDS's family got back home and were questioning the redness of her face which she excused by saying she carried out a 20% lactic acid face peel for too long (used for reducing blemishes and acne).
MDS's mother, who is a medical doc, questioned if MDS had applied the acid on the area around her eyes as they were inflamed and red just like the rest of the face, a remark which MDS dismissed by panicking about "her skin peeling off". MDS would hate for her family to know that she did recreational drug experiments, in fear of them being disappointed, scared, angry and upset about her actions.

At this point, MDS thought to herself that she would have to stay calm and look out for swelling of the tongue/breathing difficulties, in which case she'd have to call a hospital/tell her mother the truth/tell her mother she was having an allergic reaction to X. The redness subsided within the next 1-2 hrs, as did the panic.

A couple of days later (in dream time), MDS had just finished her last exam for the year and she wanted to experiment again. She'd only slept for 4hrs the night before because she wanted to force in some extra study which she wasn't organised enough to plan and complete earlier. She had kept a bottle of 390mg codeine with a fizzy orange soft drink in her bag for 12-24hrs. She was slightly uneasy with her actions but MDS decided to (recklessly? Irresponsibly?) give it another shot.

Her thought blanket (fallback) was that if symptoms repeated and she was unable to breathe, she'd call the ambulance - what allowed her to be happy with this was that she was not home and her parents were away, so she didn't feel troubled by having to face them during her high/allergic reaction. She drank (roughly) 250-350mg of codeine within the space of 20-50 minutes. She was sitting in a cafe by the window at the beginning of the slurping session. She started to feel lightly euphoric stimulation all over her body and head.

Her eyes felt stoned and very sensitive to light (pin point process?) and she didn't realise how dizzy she was until she bent down to plug her charger. In the next 15-25 minutes the feeling of euphoria increased and she had trouble sitting up straight and keeping her eyes open, and every time she closed her eyes, all the sensations were of better quality/she felt more euphoric.

To prevent herself from falling asleep (despite the table being narrow and desk-like, facing the window with a narrow, hard, tall stool=relatively uncomfortable) she left the cafe after asking to have her barely touched coffee (she should've bought a hot choc...) placed in a take away cup, going to the toilets, and forgetting her takeaway cup.


MDS stepped out onto the busy streets and she felt heavy and slightly disorientated - she wished she could just call back on to a soft bed and lay there in complete silence. She walked along and each step was blissful, everything felt good - the warm sunshine and soft breeze felt unbelievably pleasant, and the physical motion of moving felt good, each step like a massage of MDS's body or perhaps like a waterfall of pleasure washing over and over her body in gentle waves.

She didn't want to listen to music as she felt 'perfect' just listening to the birdsong and street sounds. She felt connected and appreciated the beauty of each passer by, feeling like she wanted to help and love them and talk to them about anything. MDS walked back slowly in the direction of home and was left with her own thoughts.

She was aware of problems and tasks and complicated to do lists and she was able to clearly set out a rational plan for their achievement. Emotional issues were thought through with beautiful nostalgia and admiring appreciation of MDS's experiences (good or bad, she saw a silver lining) as well as a healing washing away of unnecessary guilt, worries or unconstructive self judgements and stressful "vicious cycle" thinking spirals.

She didn't feel as if she was pushing away/masking her problems but looking a them from a new perspective. MDS saw a comfy-looking patch of grass on a large school field which was starting to be lit by the sunlight (you never know with English weather). The moment she sat down, she almost couldn't help slowly falling onto her back... She was swimming in sunlight and she could now locate her euphoria more clearly as 'radiating' from her chest or perhaps the throat.

Her breathing got very slow and shallow (a worry regarding OD passed her mind but she immediately dismissed it due to the low dosage and type of drug) and with her eyes closed her head floated into a different state of being, consciousness with a reduced need of a body, and she began to walk around and do lovely things which she finds hard to explain of perhaps even to remember, all while laying on her back with her knees bent (MDS wants to apologise to people who were offended by her flashing - she had forgotten she was wearing a skirt and ladder tights and at the time she didn't care).

MDS was floating in an out of active consciousness and the sounds of a building site/buses passing by kept her awake. She enjoying this experience so intensely and deeply, that she'd forgotten to be utterly shocked and surprised at the potential of codeine. MDS imagined that this is what heroin would feel like...).

To prevent nodding off into deep sleep MDS carried on an intensely pleasant walk home, and upon arrival she couldn't resist undressing and falling back onto her bed. And then, it happened - she understood now the hype surrounding nodding. With her eyes closed, she experienced vivid day dreams but ever more intensely than she had outside. After what felt like many hours, she checked her phone and it had been around 20 minutes since she nodded.

She carried on this healing experience while her body and brain were being washed with rivers of euphoria until she fell asleep for a couple of hours, and woke up feeling spiritually and emotionally cleansed and renewed. She was at a loss for words at the potential of codeine and was very satisfied.

She also had around 40-140mg of codeine left and she's wasn't sure what to do with it as she doesn't know how long she can store it and what effect storage has on the drug.

This is where my dream ended. I woke up and I would love and appreciate comments and speculations and suggestions on MDS's experiences.

Thanks

shehasaname
 
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I've personally done up to 450mg foolishly in 1 dose and 600mg in 2 doses over 1 day. All i can recall from those experiences is severe histaminergic reactions that were honestly scary combined with an anxiety attack. I get itchy at 90mg these days and my tolerance has since sky rocketed being an addict. I hope you don't go down that same road as i have. Not to scare you i started out on codeine too.

Your experience sounds lovely, too good in fact. Next time use some paragraph's as alot of people won't bother reading and this is a well written report imo. Oh and a decent anti-histamine will rid your experiences of those intense itching and hives.
 
Hi, I quit my codeine addiction one year ago. Your experience sounds great, but my experience of codeine is that maybe 1% of the time you will get these amazing experiences, but the rest of the time its unremarkable at best, and frightening at worst.
Codeine is something I know I can never use again. Unlike MDMA or coke, I know that I cant just do codeine occasionally. Gradually it took over my life and became the only important thing to me. I regularly took up to 600mg a time, though it took a few years to build up that level of tolerance. Eventually I ended up in hospital, and I did a reduction plan with the help of my GP and drug recovery services.

I was taking codeine to prevent withdrawl, the nice fuzzy feeling disappeared very soon after my habit started. Most of the time it made me feel sick and bloated, and man, the itchy thing, I definitely relate to that.

I also found, on reflection, that there was a direct link between codeine and my weight; the more I took, the heavier I got. I think there were various reasons for this. The more I took, the more inactive I was. Also, I found that the effects of codeine are much better if you take your codeine on an empty stomach immediately followed by a good solid carby meal. On one hand my snacks between meals disappeared so I could have an empty stomach ready for the codeine, but it also meant that 4 times a day, I would take my codeine, then eat a big meal, whether I wanted one or not. I'm normally a light eater during the day, but I became a 4 times a day 3 course meal gal. During the 8 years I was addicted, I put 5 stone on (70 pounds), and since quitting a year ago I have lost 56 pounds (4 stone) and still counting.

I do like codeine, but for me personally it's staying in the past. The bad times outweighed the good for me, I found it a very anti-social drug, and it's the only drug I've known that has the ability to take over and destroy my life.
 
Codeine is quite enjoyable with no tolerance.. Big doses, my god.. I wouldn't ever again without promethazine. I believe I took roughly 8-900mg at once, WORST histamine reaction ever.. 50mg of Diph did nothing.. Skin was red, my eyes PUFFED up, looked like I popped veins in my eyes. Though it was supposed to be Hydrocodone, after about 15 minutes, I knew something was amidst. Lasted 3 days till all the symptoms were clear.
 
Codeine is quite enjoyable with no tolerance.. Big doses, my god.. I wouldn't ever again without promethazine. I believe I took roughly 8-900mg at once, WORST histamine reaction ever.. 50mg of Diph did nothing.. Skin was red, my eyes PUFFED up, looked like I popped veins in my eyes. Though it was supposed to be Hydrocodone, after about 15 minutes, I knew something was amidst. Lasted 3 days till all the symptoms were clear.

Yep, I know the feeling. Sorry you got duped! :p I learnt the hard way, a couple of weeks ago by taking 750mg of codeine. Was not pleasant.
 
Hi, I quit my codeine addiction one year ago. Your experience sounds great, but my experience of codeine is that maybe 1% of the time you will get these amazing experiences, but the rest of the time its unremarkable at best, and frightening at worst.
Codeine is something I know I can never use again. Unlike MDMA or coke, I know that I cant just do codeine occasionally. Gradually it took over my life and became the only important thing to me. I regularly took up to 600mg a time, though it took a few years to build up that level of tolerance. Eventually I ended up in hospital, and I did a reduction plan with the help of my GP and drug recovery services.

I was taking codeine to prevent withdrawl, the nice fuzzy feeling disappeared very soon after my habit started. Most of the time it made me feel sick and bloated, and man, the itchy thing, I definitely relate to that.

I also found, on reflection, that there was a direct link between codeine and my weight; the more I took, the heavier I got. I think there were various reasons for this. The more I took, the more inactive I was. Also, I found that the effects of codeine are much better if you take your codeine on an empty stomach immediately followed by a good solid carby meal. On one hand my snacks between meals disappeared so I could have an empty stomach ready for the codeine, but it also meant that 4 times a day, I would take my codeine, then eat a big meal, whether I wanted one or not. I'm normally a light eater during the day, but I became a 4 times a day 3 course meal gal. During the 8 years I was addicted, I put 5 stone on (70 pounds), and since quitting a year ago I have lost 56 pounds (4 stone) and still counting.

I do like codeine, but for me personally it's staying in the past. The bad times outweighed the good for me, I found it a very anti-social drug, and it's the only drug I've known that has the ability to take over and destroy my life.

Congrats for quitting!

I'm very sorry to hear about your bad experiences. Sure, codeine affected your lifestyle in a negative way I understand. You really do have to be careful with and respect the drug, and the same with any drug.
I am glad you have gotten codeine out of your life.

MDS says: I monitor my usage very closely, and measure out breaks. In fact, I am super high-maintenance about not getting addicted.:sus:

As I said below, a couple of weeks back when I was not aware of ceilling effect and how codeine is metabolised, I took 750mg. There is more to the story and I won't go into it now, but I got a bit sick and also ended up in hospital.

Take care and stay safe!!!
 
I've personally done up to 450mg foolishly in 1 dose and 600mg in 2 doses over 1 day. All i can recall from those experiences is severe histaminergic reactions that were honestly scary combined with an anxiety attack. I get itchy at 90mg these days and my tolerance has since sky rocketed being an addict. I hope you don't go down that same road as i have. Not to scare you i started out on codeine too.

Your experience sounds lovely, too good in fact. Next time use some paragraph's as alot of people won't bother reading and this is a well written report imo. Oh and a decent anti-histamine will rid your experiences of those intense itching and hives.

Yes, that is a very lage dose. Sorry to hear about your experience, it sure sounds horrid! I have a lot of experience in anxiety attacks myself (unrelated to influence under drugs).

I hope it's easier to read now :)

Stay safe
 
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