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Codeine (236mg) - Semi-experienced - yuck :( nausea and depression

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This is only my second and I can pretty safely say last time I will take codeine (unless it is for genuine medicinal purposes).

The first time I took it the other week I got little out of it but wanted to take it again just to check it wasn't an anomaly or else I'd still have that quesiotn mark in my mind.

The buzz is hardly worth mentioning and for me and the sides are really shitty and rather overwhelming. Like 10% relaxed to 90% nausea and depression.

I dunno why it makes me so depressed but fuck this depression is on par with speed comedowns. Luckily it doesn't last so long going from my last experience :).

All today I would be at my computer then after a little while I would have to lie down as I felt more and more queasy. I didn't realize at the time but remembered just then that the lying down is an 'instant' cure for opiate related nausea (which I'd read recently online).

Just the thought of the sour liquid increases my nausea manyfold as I picture it in my mind.

I'm glad I've tried opiates now and def got it out of my system cos trying heroin had been occupying my thoughts quite alot previously. Now though after trying this shit and reading the constipation horror stories on other threads related to opiates I certainly can say I am finished with this line of inquiry and can return my attention to more productive ventures.
 
How did you extract the codeine? If they tablets contained APAP are you sure it was completely removed? Also, codeine itself isn't that strong, what where you expecting?

Opiates are something I find grow on you and before you know it (if you have a reliable source) your hooked. So well done for concluding your experience with them as it is most likely for the better.
 
Nope, wasn't expecting anything mindblowing, just to get a hint of the opiate experience.

I am sure H has a better 'high' but this experience has nipped my curiosity in the bud.

It's not only that but one thing I like since trying mephedrone is the ease of acquisition.

I certainly wouldn't wanna go scouring the streets for an illicit substance these days so tried codeine only cos it was a weak OTC intro to opiates- but the main reason I tried it at all was the easy access.

Out of (purely 'intellectual' :)) interest is there any point in drawing comparisons between codeine and H? I know they say codeine is morphine but ten times weaker then H. So is that to say the effects of H would just be codeine multiplied by 10 or is it like apples and oranges?
 
OTC codiene? you are almost surely getting tylelon with codiene in that case

I really hope u did a cold water extraction.. if not the unwanted side effects are coming from APAP overdose because your liver function is taking a hit

I hope your ok. in order to get that much codiene without extracting you would have had to take a near lethal dose of apap

BTW getting a buzz off codiene shouldnt really sum up opiates for you... even hydrocodone has a high that is 1000% more enjoyable than codiene

I love opiates but I wouldnt bother with codiene unless it was in syrup forum
 
I've never done heroin but I can tell you for a fact that trying to compare the codeine high to it in any way shape or form is absurd.

Even O-Desmethyltramadol was a whole nother level of euphoria when put next to codeine.

If you didn't do a cold water extraction on your pills then you would have consumed a ridiculous amount of APAP (paracetemol) and that would be the primary cause of most your side effects.. I feel bad for your liver if you neglected the extraction.

From what I gather from these forum's its a great thing that your curiosity is satisfied and you should aim to keep it that way, as im sure most heroin user's on these boards will agree that its best left alone.

Saying that you have 'tried opiates now' after sampling codeine is kind of like saying you have tried stimulants after a red bull or 2.

Personally I love a bit of codeine from time to time, relaxing and euphoric :)
 
Even if you managed to remove the acetaminophen properly, 236mg of codeine is a high dose to someone opiate naive. I have a decent tolerance, and last time I did an extraction, I dosed with ~400mg, and also became very ill.

Hopefully your experience will help you avoid an opiate addiction. There are chemicals out there which are much safer, and provide a more enjoyable learning experience than opiates (namely traditional psychedelics). Thank you for the report, and I hope you are feeling all right now.
 
oh, yes didn't mean to cause concern there, I did a CWE before consumption.

Saying that you have 'tried opiates now' after sampling codeine is kind of like saying you have tried stimulants after a red bull or 2.
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Good point, and I wouldn't want to delude myself into saying that was the reason for wanting to try it now. Suffice to say though that my curiosity has diminished if only due to being fed up with the negative side effects of drugs overall.
 
If you really want to experience what opiates can do I recommend trying to get an Oxycontin 80 and dosing half of it. That is a nice introduction to opiates and what I started on, but from then on due to having a good source it went downhill. The only reason I was able to stop was by cutting off contact and sorting myself out it is a very, very easy drug to get addicted to if you have a constant supply of it. I recommend trying it, but not trying it again. It's one of those drugs that is good if you can have access to it once, but wont have access to it again.

I still take codeine via the CWE method, but I would only do this in decent dosages with some cannabis as this enhances the high greatly, the two of them go well together I think. However on its own codeine wont do much except give you a nice warm feeling and some relaxation, it's nice to use if your having a stressful day and really need to unwind, you can just drink some codeine and stick on some Pink Floyd and relax!
 
Sounds like you took too much for your (presumably non existent) tolerance IMO. Taking too much of an opiate feels surprisingly unpleasant as you now know. Without tolerance, 120-150mg of codeine is enough to make me feel a short lived, but pleasant, opiate high. If your tolerance forces you to need more, codeine probably isn't for you as the side effects get annoying with higher dosages.

BTW getting a buzz off codiene shouldnt really sum up opiates for you... even hydrocodone has a high that is 1000% more enjoyable than codiene
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I know that I'm somewhat of a freak here, but I would actually take an equivalent dose of codeine over hydrocodone. Having never tried heroin, I would say the natural opiates (morphine & codeine) have a uniquely warm and pleasant euphoria compared to the somewhat colder effect of synthetic and semi-synthetic opioids.
 
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Having never tried heroin, I would say the natural opiates (morphine & codeine) have a uniquely warm and pleasant euphoria compared to the somewhat colder effect of synthetic and semi-synthetic opioids.
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Absolutely. Traditional opiates have better highs. Synthetics or semi-synthetics have more of a stimulant effect, and really just feel not as comfortable. It is difficult to beat morphine. Codeine is a good high too, extracted and at the right dose. Less is more with codeine, in my experiences.

I have heard that heroin is good, though I have never tried it, and am not really eager to. They hype oxycodone up as well, and in reality it is not a very good high when compared to most opiates/opioids.
 
I'm glad you posted that; I thought I was the only one who experienced depression from taking large amounts of Codeine. About two months ago I took 250mg of Codeine & ended up having a mini-breakdown & sobbing to my mother in the airport for half an hour.
 
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