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Cocodamol - The drug of the credit crunch? plus other codeine/dihydrocodeine queries

When I did my first, experimental CWE (described in detail here), I used a circle cut from a coffee filter, folded into quarters and opened out into a cone (three layers one side, one layer the other ..... basically just like what you used to do in science classes at school ..... try it and you'll see) and placed this in a small funnel.

As the last gear I scored seemed not to affect me at all, despite running OK, I think more CWE is on the cards.
 
ok I have tried plenty of searching and have been unable to find out if the extras in my 'Care Codeine 15mg/5ml Solution' will make me ill

I remember reading you can still find linctus in the UK which can be abused and this one looks promising, the additional ingredients are as follows

Ethanol
Sunset Yellow Dye (E110)
Sodium Methyl
Ethyl and Propyl Parahydroxybenzoates (E215, E219)
Citric Acid Monohydrate (E330)
Sodium Methyl
Saccharin Sodium
Carmellose Sodium
Menthol
Condensed Milk Flavour (contains propylene glycol)
Orange Flavour
Glycerol (E422)
Purified water

so can I neck the whole thing? :)
 
tekkeN said:
so can I neck the whole thing? :)
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Like you'd listen if anybody said no... ;)

Yeah, you'll be fine. Obviously you don't want to be ingesting those extra ingredients on a regular basis, but if that were the case then the codeine would obviously be more of a worry.
 
Sounds fairly standard stuff to me, Tek. I actually rather like the pretty high ethanol content in some lincti. Not to all tastes but definitely warms yer cockles. Think you can get alcohol-free ones too cos I'm sure the stuff I used to get prescribed didn't contain any ethanol cos with the amount I used to get through I would've been permapissed. Well, I mostly was but that would be the brandy, I suspect.

Worst side-effects I've had from chugging cough syrup would be stomach cramps and/or the squits. Sorbitol tends to be the culprit for the latter but sure there must be other stuff that does similar. Cramps seem to be fairly common with quite a few syrups, unfortunately. I never found them too excessive myself though and pass fairly quickly.
 
Yeah I went through all those ingredients looking to see if excessive consumption had any side effects when I bought my first Care linctus. My google searches turned up nothing serious, other than ofcourse the ethanol but we all know about that; plus, this is the same brand that I drink 1+ bottles of at a time every few weeks and haven't noticed any side effects, so chug away my friend :D
 
Evad said:
paramol seems to have a white coloured binder that is plenty soluble in water, never seen a clear extraction with it like is possible with generic co-cos
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hi, can YOU give me some advice, i have 40 dfs 118 with 30mg of codiene in, can i CWE these and is it worth it? Im about to start a methodone detox, i only now take bout 10ml a day now with the ocasional bag (nearly daily ) which is only bout .2, so ive got some vallies and the df s along with some britlofex (lofexidene) and some loperamide but im thinking if i could plug or drink the codiene i might feel it better, any ideas? Thanks for any HElP
 
Naggers said:
Yeah I went through all those ingredients looking to see if excessive consumption had any side effects when I bought my first Care linctus. My google searches turned up nothing serious, other than ofcourse the ethanol but we all know about that; plus, this is the same brand that I drink 1+ bottles of at a time every few weeks and haven't noticed any side effects, so chug away my friend :D
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Gee's linctus is OK, nowt special but I felt some mild fuzzy effects at least. Also felt a tad sick later on in the evening, but thankfully I didn't spew.

Collis Browne was absolute gash and had me belching peppermint all evening to boot. Argh. I can still taste it. :!
 
goaheadanjuna said:
hi, can YOU give me some advice, i have 40 dfs 118 with 30mg of codiene in, can i CWE these and is it worth it? Im about to start a methodone detox, i only now take bout 10ml a day now with the ocasional bag (nearly daily ) which is only bout .2, so ive got some vallies and the df s along with some britlofex (lofexidene) and some loperamide but im thinking if i could plug or drink the codiene i might feel it better, any ideas? Thanks for any HElP
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DFs are straight codeine with no paracetamol so no need to CWE. If you really want to plug 'em then just crush and dissolve in water and squirt the whole lot up yerself. Some say there's no point plugging codeine but I disagree - it definitely packs more of a punch but not as much of a difference as when plugging morphine and the like.

PS: Do make sure they actually are DFs (they won't be cos DFs aren't made anymore but straight codeine pills are often still called DFs) cos if they're co-codamol or similar you will need to CWE them. Use one of the pharm pill ID sites if you're not sure.
 
gonna get some boots home brand co-codamol tommorow. i have extracted before but this time i have no coffee filters. anything else i can do to filter without the fecking coffee filters? suggestions?
 
Small dilemma. Went to pharmacy today and got some paracetamol codeine tablets. But the girl at the counter asked if I wanted insoluble tablets or other ones, I didn't know what she was talking about so said ''yes I'll take insoluble'', not wanting to appear more suspicious. Is insoluble the correct type for CWE???
 
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Yes. The codeine is soluble in both; the soluble ones are the big 'uns that you drop into a glass of water and which subsequently effervesce and dissolve. You then have a mixture of water, codeine and paracetamol, which is useless. You want the ones where the paracetamol is insoluble, so it ends up as a chalky lump in the filter while the water/codeine mixture drips through. You need to edit the name of the pharmacy out of that post; "the chemist's" is all the information we need.
 
Thanks yerg.
I just drank a solution made up of 12mg of paracetamol (which I 'filtered'). It was quite cloudy though, but if I put a bottle of coke 1cm behind it I could read what it said. Still worried as fuck though.... How cloudy is safe?
 
No one can say how cloudy is safe unfortunately as it depends on how much water you used (and some brands seem to have fillers/binders which make the water cloudy) but really you don't want cocodamol CWE to be cloudy at all.

Initially I misread your post and thought you used soluble paracetamol and was panicking a bit, cos 12g is farfar too much and could be v dangerous in some people, but if you filtered it you won't have had that much hopefully! We can't really tell you how much though as it depends how effective the filtering was. Short answer, if you don't think you got much paracetamol out and are worried, get yourself to a doctors sharpish as liver damage isn't fun. Should be A+E ASAP really as they can treat the OD but I appreciate this is a bit extreme, but if you are worried it's the safest thing.

If you feel you filtered most of it out but are still concerned you could always get a blood test at your GPs just to check your liver is happy and ok.. and filter a bit more next time :)

You should be fine but everyone varies in their response to paracetamol, and we really can't tell you how much you have had on the net.. good luck!
 
I haven't looked at any of the previous posts but am curiouis as 2 why this is one of the most viewed threads in EADD. Personally i can't see any reason why Co Codamol or any similar substance would give anyone any pleasure. Apart from releif of pain. Also when extracting codeine from the tablets , surely you are gonna get some paracetamol.
Is it really worth all the hassle ? If you are inclined to take opiates would it not be better to actually get some Proper ones that don't require drawn out extraction procedures , that aren't guaranteed to get rid of all the crap?
 
CWE takes about 15 mins when you're good at it and yeah you get rid of just about all the crap, couple of quid for 500mg codeine is pretty damn cheap as well and a lot of people clearly buxx off that (or even less). You can't get any 'proper opiates' at the local chemist for a pound or so.
 
A proper CWE should remove virtually all the paracetamol - or at least plenty enough to make it perfectly safe to use. The important bit is the C in CWE - ice cold water = crystal clear solution. So clear you can see the individual particles of paracetamol should you get any into the solution :)

I also disagree with saying that folks will all automatically need "proper" opiates for opifun to be worthwhile. I <3 serious opi's but since I quit heroin I now <3 codeine again. In fact I even <3 codeine when I was on the scag. Admittedly at fairly fuckin' massive doses compared to most codeine users (was prescribed over a litre of codeine linctus a day for a while :D). Codeine is a great opiate in its own right and plenty enough for those with little/no tolerance and for those who want to steer clear from heavier opiates.

Which reminds me... down to me last 300mg of straight codeine pills so thank fuck for 30/500 co-cos. 8/500s may seem a bit of a faff but as you can buy them dirt cheap without prescription they're still damn good value compared to spending a tenner on a bag of bash, perhaps ;)
 
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