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having never taken cocaine before, and being told of it in "rock" form, what does this mean and is it just crushed up and snorted?

also this maybe against the rules **( mod's feel free to edit)** but what price should a gram of cocaine go for??

thanks
 
That my friend is what you call CRACK.
A VERY pure form of cocaine :)

Kinda like the difference between crystal meth and plain old 'street speed'.
If i were you, your best bet would be smoking it... but like most things, that'll probably be more enjoyable, but MUCH more addictive.

*EDIT* Oh, and check you PM's...
 
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I thought crack was something you made with cocaine, mixed with baking soda/water and then when baked in the oven it forms "rock" on the tray.

Which makes it smokeable and even more addictive.

ive never tried the stuff, its only what i thought, and could be wrong.
 
Comparing crack to crystal is not a correct analogy.

The process of making crack is essentially turning the cocaine hydrochloride salt into a water insoluble solid of freebase cocaine - it aint pure though! This is a waxy solid. The baking soda reacts with the hydrochloride part freeing it from the cocaine and liberating carbon dioxide gas. The cocaine then becomes insoluble and the water is decanted and vaporised off.

The ONLY way to take it is by smoking. It definitely should not be snorted and it cannot be injected as it will not dissolve. As cocaine cannot be eaten that route is out also.

Crystal meth is very pure methamphetamine hydrochloride (>70% pure). "Speed" is the same methamphetamine hydrochloride, just with a larger number of impurities and cutting agents. (5-20% pure) Thus crack to cocaine is very different than crystal to "speed".

Crack is not necessarily pure cocaine either. It is purer yes. But cutting agents like the other "-caines" are likely to follow the cocaine through the crack making procedure. As in whatever you do to cocaine, will also do the same thing to lignocaine, novacaine and whatever else they may have used with similar chemical properties to cocaine. As the water in the crack reaction is also just filtered and bolied off and the freebase cocaine not formally extracted with a non-polar solvent, it means that you still leave a lot of what is in there behind. For instance sodium chloride (table salt) is produced by the reaction. Whilst it is water soluble some is not removed and thus when the crack is dried out the salt simply remains behind bound up with the crack. The same would go for glucose, epsom salts etc.
 
Good post Biscuit! if you arn't 100% sure your answer is the correct one, then it is best not to post. Misinformation is worse than no information! :)
 
Although rock cocaine probably more accurately refers to crack or freebase cocaine, it is often sold in the HCl form as a rock or hard crystalline lump. Sometimes it will have a mother of pearl look to it.

This is NOT freebase, but is formed either by careful recrystallisation (or luck) of the HCl salt, or more frequently by pressing the powdered cocaine, sometimes with a binding agent.
 
If it is kinda waxy then most likely crack (in Australia, I assume this is next to impossible to get?)
If it is like crumbly chalk then most likely it is Coke.
 
Yeah a few old associates of mine are smoking this crap now ... I heard if you get shit coke thats not the best you can turn it into crack and when you smoke it the high is increased ??

Its becoming popular from what ive heard..
 
black_eyed said:
and being told of it in "rock" form
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Mmmm whilst it might be crack they're talking about, I'm tipping its actually just a dealer trying to sugget his coke is very pure - ie still tightly pressed (and therefore supposedly not cut) - in its 'original' rock form.
 
i agree with ^^^^. its not that hard to put powdery coke back into clumps or 'rocks'. in countries where crack is more available rock would probably refer to crack but all of the people i know in melbourne are talking about regular coke that is in clump/s when they use the word rock.
 
whenever someone around my parts says its in ROCK form, it means it comes in a hard rock that you have to bash and crush to snort. supposedly 'purer' but it fails the 'sell' test - i.e. good drugs sell themselves, they dont need a dealer to talk them up - only bad drugs need to be talked up (eg. "nah man, these are not those dud rolex pills, these are good ones man, 125mg pure mdma nothing else in them, have you pilling for hours!! HAR HAR HAR!")

Doesnt mean anything about the purity or the goodness of it tho. i've had plenty of "rock" that was just plain shit. its one of the reasons i dont bother with coke in australia anymore.
 
phase_dancer said:
Although rock cocaine probably more accurately refers to crack or freebase cocaine, it is often sold in the HCl form as a rock or hard crystalline lump. Sometimes it will have a mother of pearl look to it.
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This is what i have come into contact with. It wasnt crack, just a compressed chunk of Cocaine HCl.
 
Just because it is in a solid lump does not necessarily mean that it is pure.

Often Coke HCl is repressed with adulterants to give the impression of a higher quality product.

Whilst sodium bicarbonate, is more frequently used to make crack, it is ammonia that makes the better quality freebase, but is more volatile and overdose is more likely.

It is possible to turn the HCL salt into the freebase (crack) and then back into the pure HCl salt with minimal chemicals. HCl acid, acetone, ammonia and a readily available camping fuel.

Unfortunately as the general quality of Australian cocaine is normally low, the yield will be poor but crack is nice to try and it can be made in minutes.
 
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