Cocaine Cocaine, is it worth it?

[Renz Envy]

I don't think it's worth it to experiment with if you're unsure of any heart problems or your blood pressure.

I know plenty that have snorted cocaine a few days in a month and never touched it again. (Me for example.) It seems to become more addictive when people begin smoking or IVing it. I enjoyed it, but I see it as more of a luxury drug than a tool.

But compared to other stimulants, it's probably the worst for your heart. It's also probably the easiest and fastest stimulant overdose fatality. It's also more likely, because the person is redosing constantly. (No one purchases cocaine to do ONE LINE and crash 30 minutes later during the party.) It's compulsive and the numbing feeling almost makes it feel safer than other stimulants.

As for cutting agents. I am, by far, more afraid of the drug by itself. I'd rather get 6% cocaine and get 10mg of it in my blood stream than get 100% pure and accidentally get 200mg-300mg. My Heart: *Plump Pl-Plu-Plump.....Pl-*


Cutting agents, in my opinion, become an issue for addiction.

NSFW:

I'm sorry but unadulterated cocaine doesn't exist on the street. The best shit we ever got was 90% (tested) (off a kilo that a good friend was going to cut and sell, but gave us an untouched quarter for the same price he was selling the cut product for, and we were getting yakked off of key bumps, and we were long-time cokeheads who would typically take three or four 6" lines (roughly...300mg? I'm not sure at all but it was a large dosage required to get me even remotely high from cocaine) of typical street coke. When we got this 90%, we didn't believe the guy who got it for us that he would have 90% coke that he was willing to sell to us for a typical street price. He then gave us the each a tiny match head sized bump, and we got higher than we had ever gotten off sniffing coke before just from that bump. We also tested it, and it showed up for only coke, but the guy who got it told us that there was 10% of something else in it, I can't remember what it was, but i remember looking it up and finding out that it was harmless. An 8 ball lasted two weeks between mostly 2 heads, that is 2 BIG cokeheads who were using all throughout each day. We were typically IV users, but it wasn't necessary nor was it safe to try IVing that good. That shit is what made a "bit of a coke problem" become "a severe cocaine addiction" for us.

So you've done coke 5 times? well if you really have pure cocaine, I'd stay away, because we were SUPER tolerant, and I almost OD'd just from snorting a little baby line of this stuff, maybe an inch an a half long, which I couldn't believe since shooting coke was a regular activity for us, and while we did have several near-OD situations, it didn't seem weird, because IV coke is dangerous as hell. Coke is average purity at around 20-30%, IIRC, possibly less, and you will almost surely die if you, a nontolerant casual user who is used to typical street coke, were to insufflate pure cocaine.

@laCster, that's true, but would you put a price on brain? amphetamines = neurotoxic. cocaine (IIRC) = not neurotoxic.

Amphetamine use requires a lot of extra care, involving LOTS of supplements, forced eating, and possibly sedatives, amongst other precautions, whereas with coke, alls you gotta worry about is your heart.

^ Great post. Hits the facts and is credible. Amphetamines fortunately provide good users with the focus they need to know precautions. As for forced eating: Protein shake, multi-vitamin, Fruit juice or fruit.

To OP:
Pure cocaine could be near toxic in doses as low as 80mg. If you're railing "FAT LINES" then it's far from pure. But don't hate your over-enthusiastic dealer, just weigh the facts, play it safe and don't obsess over how good it may feel. In the end, who's right? The statistics or a salesman?

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Thanks for the response. I'm talking about the short term effects mostly, I'd rather not get into the details on why I'm not worried about addiction. I'm not thinking about mental illness either, because my use will be staying very limited maybe a few times a year at celebrations. Immediate health risks is what i'm mostly worried about. It is always very good, apparently washed, and EZ tested no adulterants. I don't do other types I see people offering, because of the risk of adulterants and the diminished effect. I have only snorted it and will only be snorting it. But I can't imagine quarter yearly coke use to damage my septum.

I was not aware that there was an EZTest that could confirm there were absolutely no adulterants? The best result you can get on their cocaine purity test is that it is most likely 95% pure or higher. Is that the test you used? If so, that is a very good result.

Everyone always says they aren't worried about addiction, people almost always don't think they're going to get addicted, so that's kind of meaningless. Also there can easily be a kind of temporary addiction where you just do more and more staying up all night and your night becomes focussed on doing more.

Anyway, immediate physical health risks are mainly rapid heartbeat, irregular heartbeat, increased temperature, elevated blood pressure, or more rarely, respiratory failure, cerebral hemorrhage, heart attack, stroke or heart failure. Elevated temperature can be serious though. Immediate mental risks are anxiety, paranoia, cravings for more, panic attacks, insomnia, delusions, psychosis/hallucinations, or negative come-down effects which can include the aforementioned things plus depression, or doing something stupid/dangerous while you are high.

As mentioned above, cocaine is more dangerous if you are using it with alcohol.

It is not really that easy for a healthy person who is only, say doing a few small lines in a night (if you can dose accurately/safely and keep it at a few lines is another story), to have life-threatening complications from snorting cocaine. That statistic about cocaine being the number one drug other than alcohol to cause hospital visits may be a bit misleading. If I am reading the same source as you (DAWN), they are just saying that out of illegal drugs cocaine was "involved in" the highest number of ER visits. They don't say what they include for "involved in", but are likely including various things like when someone has a panic attack or psychosis while on cocaine, someone was injured while on coke, someone used multiple drugs and cocaine was one of them, someone with a cocaine addiction goes to the ER to get help detoxing etc. For comparison there were 66% as many marijuana-involved ER visits as cocaine-involved visits. So these statistics are not a measure of how life-threatening a drug is.

Whether or not it's "worth" the risks to you is a personal decision. I don't feel it's worth it, but not because I think it's that likely I would die from snorting a few lines.

 

[Renz Envy]

Cocaine being responsible for a lot of hospital visits is very possible. Panic attacks are clearly not uncommon with stimulants and most smart people seek emergency care.

That doesn't mean they died or had life threatening complications.

Also, snorted cocaine is not as big a risk as smoked or IV'd cocaine. As I said, I enjoyed a few lines in the past and would probably do one if the circumstances were right.
But I wouldn't bury my face in a pile of cocaine and expect peaches and cream afterward.

 

[Pagey]

I personally don't like cocaine, but seeing what it does to some people I'd say no, it isn't worth it.
But it all depends on how well you know yourself and how much you trust yourself to keep your use under control imo.

 

[HighonLife]

Hello, I wanted to know people opinions on cocaine and wether its worth the risk to take it?

I've only done it 5 times, and I only intend on doing it rarely. I have access to unadulterated cocaine, but I don't know if its worth the risk to take it.
I read some statistic that cocaine is the number one drug other than alcohol to cause hospital visits. Is this because of the adulterants or because of the cocaine?
I love it and I want to do it every once in a while but if I'm going to take a high risk going to the hospital then I am not gunna risk it!

access to unadulterated cocaine? are you sure? how can you be so sure? you in Columbia with connects to people who are making it? cuz that shit gets adulterated to some degree damn near immediately n just gets worse as it goes down the line. Just sayin

perhaps its the drug that causes the 2nd most amount of hospital visits cuz behind alcohol and weed (and we know people arent going to the hospital for weed in large numbers, tho they do exist) i would venture to say cocaine is probably the next most widely used drug. i mean yea i know pharms are more popular n widely used then cocaine but pharms arent just one drug so the statistics on those get spread out. i may be wrong but its just a theory.

alot of people get harmed by cocaine because of the cuts, im lookin at you levamisole. but there are people out there who just do too much coke n require medical attention

cocaine is just like anything else, is it harmful? sure. can it be done safely in moderation? of course. it all depends on you and your usage patterns my friend.

you've already done it 5 times so you've already taken the risk, but my advice to you is definately leave cocaine to an every once in awhile sort of thing, which i know is what you say your plans are but IMO from reading your posts you are inexperienced n found something you really like, you came to this forum to ask this question cuz you want more, albeit its good that your cautious but you gotta be careful b/c a coke problem can be easy to develope because of its fiendish nature, its a very moreish drug. when i do coke i dont fiend for it after the fact but when im on it its just more more more

so thats my words of advice/ answers to your ?

but i didnt plan on coming in to read your post i plan on just spewing my opinion about coke and the title of your thread "Cocaine, is it worth it?" and to that my answer is no, the high is mediocre yet pleasent but for me the mental comedown/depression is worse then Amps, whenever the bag is done n the sun is comin up doing cocaine just makes me hate myself, and even when i was addicted to heroin i never got that hatred for heroin until the sickness was coming on and i was goin to great lengths to cop.

 

[InvisibleEye]

I agree with most of the posters, i would say it's a waste, financially speaking. Personally I do enjoy the trip, I've snorted and IV'd it a few times, but still, it's way too expensive. Spending a full evening/night on cocaine would cost you a shitload of money, even if you have decent stuff and redose less often.
There are other tons of other trips available that are safer, cheaper and last longer.

 

[Znegative]

Also,

I honestly think I could get diagnosed with ptsd from an experience I had with IV coke. It took me about 6 months before I was able to think or talk about it, and even then I would feel sick and start sweating. Too difficult to eleborate much on this tho.

coke=waste imo.

From medical standpoint it seems pretty useless as well.

I relate to this as well, I've posted this previously but I've had several VERY close calls with intravenous cocaine abuse, and it was beyond terrifying. There is nothing comparable to having such a hyper-understanding that you are dying like you do with IV coke.

I stupidly shot crack for a period of time (as the crack I was getting had a higher percentage of cocaine content than the powder that was available). Anyway, I bought a fifty piece rock, crushed it up, and was doing shots, mixing it with citric acid. I kept (stupidly) using the same spoon and leaving the residue from the previous shot in there, so it began to accumulate. I also seemed to be getting incredibly weak shots out of the stuff, no bell ringers, hardly even experienced that coke 'taste' that all IV coke heads know so well.. Anyway, I poured the rest of the crushed up rock into the spoon with all the residue, and poured way more citric acid on it than I had been using. I figured that it was just bunk dope. Anyway I stirred it up, and ALL the residue dissolved pretty much this time, which should have been a warning sign, but stupidly I payed no mind to it. Instead, I drew it all up and shot it. I got up to throw my works away, when all of a sudden I heard the begining of a bellringer, and I though "Allright!". The ringing kept getting more and more intense, and instead of fading away after a minute (as is usually the case), it just kept going, and my heart was beating OUT OF CONTROL. I immediately sat down because I began to panic, as I had clearly pushed things too far. I soon started to have trouble breathing (I felt as though I was suffocating), and I was afraid to move an inch as it seemed as though my heart would explode (this was particularly annoying because I hd two bags of heroin I had bought to come down with, and I desperately wanted to use them to level myself out.

Anyway. I was stuck on the floor for around an hour, unable to move or talk, and hardly able to breath. Not to mention the uncontrollable spasming of my extremities. It was fucking terrifying, I mean, TERRIFYING. I would have cried had I been able to because I so did not want to die, but I knew I was incredibly close.

Please, for everyone that uses cocaine, be careful. Do allergy tests, and always try and have someone around you in case something fucked up happens, because although what happened to me was terrifying (and I havn't touched that garbage SINCE), it can be much worse.

 

[BlueHues]

^I feel sick just reading that post....It's terrifying....It makes you so aware of your own mortality. I had a similar experience shooting crack....I would buy a 20 rock pretty much everyday with my dope for awhile because my dealer had both, after you've been shooting dope for awhile, you don't get great rushes all the time so this was a way to boost my H shots a little bit...

the pieces weren't very big or very strong so usually mixed in with the dope it would just give me a nice little boost that quickly wore off...One day I bought a 30 of rock with my dope, broke it down with white vinegar(stupid I know), drew it into the rig with dope and shot it! It hit me WAY too hard, I started shaking and my heart was pounding, I was at the dealers house so that didnt help, it was terrifying...I ran out the door and leaned up against a wall horrified for 30 mins or so, afraid to move...Fuck shooting cocaine!

 

[bfisher]

ime of years of use, coke is only worth doing if u know youre getting bling high quality stuff.. 65% At least, if u cant get ur hands on potent blow u can always do an acetone wash which leaves u with a product thats 90+%

 

[bfisher]

Real coke doesnt make ur heart go crazy, thats amphetamine/meth/ephedrine etc. Cuts.


I always say its not real coke unless u can Eat, Sleep, and Fuck on it.

 

[BlueHues]

Real coke doesnt make ur heart go crazy, thats amphetamine/meth/ephedrine etc. Cuts.


I always say its not real coke unless u can Eat, Sleep, and Fuck on it.

^Cocaine most definitely makes your heart go crazy. It raises your heart rate and blood pressure more than amphetamines in general.

As far as eating and sleeping on it, that's exactly opposite of what cocaine does to me....I could see if you used it everyday and had a tolerance you'd be able to eat on it, but generally speaking, that's just false.

I agree that higher purity coke is "cleaner", but loss of appetite and sleeplessness are characteristic of the drug "cocaine" itself, not necessarily the cuts.

Also, where are you getting the number %65 from? Do you test all your cocaine? And if it's not %65, how much are you buying at a time that washing it with acetone is a viable option?

I believe there is high purity cocaine available, but I think it's pretty rare at this point....I could defnitely see it being the kind of market that catered to wealthy clientele because you'd lose a lot of money not cutting your cocaine in today's current market. The smount you'd have to charge for cocaine over 60% would be outrageous....Even so, people would still pay it but you'd have to provide consistently pure product to develop a customer base and the quality of most mid-level dealers of cocaine and heroin seems to fluctuate greatly...

To get very high purity cocaine on a regular basais, you'd probably have to have a connection higher up in the chain and be buying at least OZs at a time...

what Z-negative said I've found to be true...In the US, a lot of the time it's easier to find "crack" that has more cocaine in it than powder cocaine a lot of the time...

 

[PsycheMan]

No.

 

[OmarLittle]

In short..No.

 

[Dawglaw]

It really depends. I never really abused it (did it once a month for a year or so) but I do not like it unless its a very very special occasion.

IME, we would get a bag then head to someone's house to start drinking before the bars, once we did one line we usually would never even leave the house. The entire night would revolve around taking lines. Instead of following through with going to the bar, we would sit around waiting our turn to either take a shit or tell some bullshit story or change the music to some song that we "have to hear right now". You take a line, feel good for 2 minutes and then can't wait for the next line. The next thing you know it is 4:30am you have drank a fifth of whiskey, feel sober yet cant fall asleep. Then you feel like shit for 2 days. Once a year that is a fun night but normally I dread whenever someone busts out the lines.

Oh and its expensive and cut to shit.

 

[OEandricearoni]

I can honestly say the only time I've ever actually enjoyed cocaine was the first time i did it. Every time after that it was an experience not worth the time/money. Unless you like paying a ton of money for like 1-2 hours of fun and an entire day of feeling like shit i'd steer clear of cocaine.

 

[tackyspiral]

for me it was sometimes a lot of fun to snort.....
but never ever ever shoot it...... that will ruin everything quickly.... no more funnness

 

[Tommyboy]

As for cutting agents. I am, by far, more afraid of the drug by itself. I'd rather get 6% cocaine and get 10mg of it in my blood stream than get 100% pure and accidentally get 200mg-300mg. My Heart: *Plump Pl-Plu-Plump.....Pl-*


Cutting agents, in my opinion, become an issue for addiction.

I fail to see the logic here. You are supposed to treat each batch of a street drug as though it may be extremely potent, thus starting with a small dose and working your way up. I would be more concerned with what the 94% of the adulterants were rather than how the 6% of actual cocaine would treat me.
If you would rather get cocaine that is 6% pure so that you get 10mg of it rather than getting pure cocaine and getting 100+ mg of it then why not just start with a dose of 10mg and go from there?

If you start low and work your way up then you should be able to find a dose that is good for you. Doing 20mg of almost pure cocaine is a lot better than doing 100mg of cocaine that has 80% of an unknown cut in it. This is especially troubling with cocaine since a lot of the cuts found in it are far from benign, levamisole being a major one of them.

 

[Renz Envy]

I fail to see the logic here. You are supposed to treat each batch of a street drug as though it may be extremely potent, thus starting with a small dose and working your way up. I would be more concerned with what the 94% of the adulterants were rather than how the 6% of actual cocaine would treat me.
If you would rather get cocaine that is 6% pure so that you get 10mg of it rather than getting pure cocaine and getting 100+ mg of it then why not just start with a dose of 10mg and go from there?

If you start low and work your way up then you should be able to find a dose that is good for you. Doing 20mg of almost pure cocaine is a lot better than doing 100mg of cocaine that has 80% of an unknown cut in it. This is especially troubling with cocaine since a lot of the cuts found in it are far from benign, levamisole being a major one of them.

My post, like many others, is situational, however it reflects a drug culture type experience in which I have lived through.

Let's say cocaine is offered to you randomly from a stranger during a messed up Friday night. In your intoxicated state, you could accept a large amount of very pure product and have a bad outcome.
Other things to think about are:

Would a drunk person think about sitting down and taking small lines and wasting this kind stranger's time or take it all in one big fat snort?
Under pressure of other people discovering you using it, would you like to spend extra time measuring the dose or eyeball it and blast?
Who is cooler? Mr. HR genius or Mr. Charlie Sheen? (Hate this situation.)

My point is that cocaine is the more dangerous end of the stimulant drugs. Not only for its wide variance in quality, but other physiological dangers.

I speak from a standpoint of both others' experience and my own experience. I do not wish for anyone to neglect gradually discovering their dose if they are given the chance.

 

[Tommyboy]

My post, like many others, is situational, however it reflects a drug culture type experience in which I have lived through.

Let's say cocaine is offered to you randomly from a stranger during a messed up Friday night. In your intoxicated state, you could accept a large amount of very pure product and have a bad outcome.
Other things to think about are:

Would a drunk person think about sitting down and taking small lines and wasting this kind stranger's time or take it all in one big fat snort?
Under pressure of other people discovering you using it, would you like to spend extra time measuring the dose or eyeball it and blast?
Who is cooler? Mr. HR genius or Mr. Charlie Sheen? (Hate this situation.)

My point is that cocaine is the more dangerous end of the stimulant drugs. Not only for its wide variance in quality, but other physiological dangers.

I speak from a standpoint of both others' experience and my own experience. I do not wish for anyone to neglect gradually discovering their dose if they are given the chance.

I have only ever been offered small "bumps" of cocaine when it's free and in a bar/party environment. The quickest and most convenient way is to do a quick key bump. If you like it then you buy more, since that is often their strategy when giving away a sample, and the sample size is small to maximize profit.

If someone is busting out lines then IME they will tell you the quality of it. The only times when I have been offered lines of cocaine it's from a friend who is already high on it and can tell me how it is. Also if it's actually good then they aren't busting out lines for you since all you would need is a bump.

The people with high quality cocaine aren't likely to be the people just giving it away in large quantities. The good stuff it usually sold by more legitimate dealers and not the dodgy dealers at a club, so after buying it you can do small amounts in a private setting to test it out.

I don't know, maybe I should be going out to the parties you attend where people just give away a large amount of very pure product since that never happens here.

 

[F1n1shed]

Honestly 75% of the times i've done coke i didn't even enjoy it at all. I would only concentrate on my heart rate, that shit is anxiety in powder form. My mind would feel like it's going too fast for me to control which makes me worry about seizures, heart attacks, etc. Fuck that stuff man