Cocaine - Is it a joke in this country or is it really out there.

[linusSL]

I got some of this a week or so ago for my girl and me to trial for our upcoming wedding (night ) with a view to get more for said night. I am glad i did not go all out and purchase a fair bit and rely on it for something special because honestly it was about as much fun as snorting baking soda.

Don't get me wrong, me and my girl don't require this to make our night any more special, we both thought it might be a fun change up in our drug/sex life.

So my question is this, does this drug actually really exist in this country as a bona fide quality drug or is what we get either.

1 - Not really coke
2 - Cut to hell

My source was very reputable and has generally never let me down in the past with other requirements, but this stuff was just nothing. Had all the hallmarks of the real deal, very fluffy and powdery, made my throat and nose as numb as a dead arm, but was at a level so subtle we found ourselves saying WTF, why did i spend xxx amount of dollars on that shit.

What are your experiences peoples????

 

[AussieBongheadsUnite]

Fuck, I think Colombians must hate Aussies or something!! Because everytime I've seen coke it has been shit and most of my mates figured it was just bad wizzer or something. I only know one fellow Australian who has had the real deal here and she got FUCKED UP! So there must be some good shit out there but it's just who you know I guess...

........sigh.........

 

[ld50 vs ssri]

I got some of this a week or so ago for my girl and me to trial for our upcoming wedding (night ) with a view to get more for said night. I am glad i did not go all out and purchase a fair bit and rely on it for something special because honestly it was about as much fun as snorting baking soda.

Don't get me wrong, me and my girl don't require this to make our night any more special, we both thought it might be a fun change up in our drug/sex life.

So my question is this, does this drug actually really exist in this country as a bona fide quality drug or is what we get either.

1 - Not really coke
2 - Cut to hell

My source was very reputable and has generally never let me down in the past with other requirements, but this stuff was just nothing. Had all the hallmarks of the real deal, very fluffy and powdery, made my throat and nose as numb as a dead arm, but was at a level so subtle we found ourselves saying WTF, why did i spend xxx amount of dollars on that shit.

What are your experiences peoples????

PD mentioned something about a method of detecting most cutting agents commonly found in Cocaine using a chart. Personally i would not off had Cocaine more then 5 times for the very reasons you mentioned above.

Plate in microwave (not coke) for 1.5 mins. Dump your stuff on the hot plate and spread it out. A small amount should dry quickly in a non-humid environment.

Of course the difference you've noticed could be due to a cut. If a bad cutting agent is used, the consistency may not change much when heated, or worse, it may dissolve and go really gluggy.

fluffy duffy: cost and temptation

It's probably true to say that with coke more than any other drug, quality of product commonly degrades as supply goes down. It doesn't need much of a cut sometimes if the right cut is chosen - most users wouldn't notice a 10% change in purity - but over a large amount 10% is still 10% extra profit - or compensation for too many nights of wild play

Many dealers possessing a better "degree of ethical conscience" have been known to break all the rules when coke is concerned. It can turn love one against love one, compassion to disgust and more than anything - greed into necessity.

There is a chart on how to detect cuts commonly used with coke if anyone is interested. No fancy chemistry required.

 

[my innerself]

this thread will most likely get closed because its an availability thread, and as the mods will most likely say "it just comes down to who you know". Personally though, I have come accross it a couple of times, I never tried it but I have had friends who have. I do recall there being a massive bust in Albany a few months back, something like 30 or 40 kilos of the stuff was found to have been smuggled over here. I dont really think it is a common drug though, and like you said if you do come accross it I bet it has been cut to death.

 

[ld50 vs ssri]

I dont really think it is a common drug though

It's extremely common.

 

[keystroke]

it's available - whilst I was just in the Netherlands they had something similar to an EZ-Tester that tested the purity of coke.

not sure whether or not the normal reagents we get here do this or not.

 

[ld50 vs ssri]

it's available - whilst I was just in the Netherlands they had something similar to an EZ-Tester that tested the purity of coke.

not sure whether or not the normal reagents we get here do this or not.

I know the Marquis reagent shows a purple reaction when testing for the presence of Cocaine, As for the purity i wonder how they would go about doing this? They even have facilities to test the concentration of GHB in the Netherlands, lucky buggers

 

[keystroke]

yeah when I was there, they had pill testers and reagents in almost every store I went into....

they are amazingly so far advanced there, we'll never get this way.....

 

[raw3]

My exgirlfriend was hooked on it for a year. It exists.

 

[DiSturBeD_1]

i would not take it until the level of purity was worthwile, i'll stick to other substances until the columbians figure out a better way

 

[my innerself]

^^^
I think the columbians know exactly what they are doing, the problem is just the 20 or 30 sets of hands that their product passes through before it reaches you.

 

[linusSL]

From my understanding coke has always been classified as a 'subtle' sort of euphoric feeling so there is always the possibility of you building it up in your mind as something really awesome and being dissapointed when you get such a subtle change in perception/feeling. At least thats what i have been led to believe.

originally posted by my innerself
this thread will most likely get closed because its an availability thread

Most probably, i did try to steer away from availability as much as possible in my question, it was more directed towards is what we get in this country the real deal and what kind of quality are we looking at.

Evidently by my first post i am already aware it is available. I think my Q's been answered anyway.

 

[Strawberry_lovemuffin]

I have had two experiences with coke: one was just like you described, linus. Made me wonder what the big deal was.

But another time we had it it was incredible. Turned our night into something resembling a 70's porn movie.... fun and cheesy and sexy and euphoric with lots of laughs... I guess that was the atmosphere you were going for, right? The real deal IS good. I guess there's just a larger percentage of dodgy shit out there than there is with other drugs.

 

[Nat]

with coke especially it is better to go to a dealer who "specialises" (for want of a better word) in coke, i am sure you will then see a marked increase in quality from this dealer.

 

[Sllip]

Like any kind of drug, particularily powders, you can get really good stuff, but most of the stuff you will be offered is really shite.

But in my opinion if your serious about having a coke night, it will be cheaper to fly to the states and buy some directly. Not only is the quality loads better, the price is dirt cheap (think single figure per g) and what's more you get a holiday to boot.

 

[linusSL]

Turned our night into something resembling a 70's porn movie.... fun and cheesy and sexy and euphoric with lots of laughs... I guess that was the atmosphere you were going for, right?

You got it in one SLM , that was exactly wht we were trialing this stuff for so we could turn our wedding night into something absalutely incredible. It will be anyway though but we thought if we got hold of something and was dissapointed on the night then it might have taken the gloss off the night.

I think we will find something else to play with. (including each other ).

 

[keystroke]

your wedding night will be fine without the drugs anyway Linus

I'd imagine you'd already be on the biggest high you'll ever be able to get - love.

 

[phase_dancer]

I know the Marquis reagent shows a purple reaction when testing for the presence of Cocaine

I once witnessed the Marquis test (freshly made reagent) done on 2 x different samples of what was supposedly 90+% coke. I don't know if it was originally sourced in this purity or simply cleaned up.

Marquis produced no initial reaction colour with both samples, but after ~2-3 minutes both samples went a very pale pinkish-orange colour. Although each appeared different - slate compared to rock - both samples passed solubility, melt, burn and chorox tests.

I don't believe the colour was produced by the cocaine, but more likely by some small impurity or adulterant. This is supported in this paper;

Further Studies on Spot Tests and Microcrystal
Tests for Identification of Cocaine by Jamie Swiatko,1 B.S.; Peter R. De Forest,1 D. Crim.; and Morris S. Zedeck,1 Ph.D. and published in J Forensic Sci, May 2003, Vol. 48, No. 3

Marquis Reagent: Cocaine did not produce a colored product
when reacting with this reagent. This result is in agreement with
other reports (7,8). After 15 mins, atropine produced a faint pink
tint and methadone produced a yellowish-brown color. Using this
spot test for deciding rapidly whether the drug is present or not, this
reagent cannot be used to differentiate any of the 17 drugs used in
this study from cocaine. Acetylsalicylic acid, which develops a
pink-red color within 5 min, was used as a positive control.

There's undoubtedly lots of coke in Australia for sure, it's just not as common as say whizz, E's or dope. It's then fair to say that much passes through many hands before reaching the end user making adulteration common. I've heard it said that coke will retain it's local anaesthetic and bitter tasting properties even when cut to below 25%.

Due to the money involved with coke and the drug's legal classification, law enforcement devotes much time to catching the crooks of this trade. When dealing with large well organised syndicates, one of the best means of discovering how close a suspect is connected to the source, is to analyze the coke. When the normal seizures are far less pure, a high % purity tends to say quite a lot about association.

Very little coke gets out on the street at the percentage it arrives in. If this is done at the beginning it may equate to adding "distance" between the 1st dealer and the importer /distributor.

It surely happens that from time to time other powders circulate widely which are relatively untouched prior to the end user. But apart from close connections, it rarely happens with coke - it's simply too expensive and tempting. Therefore, a dealers extravagance is easily made up with the addition of a simple - even sweet tasting cut.

Although far from a surefire test, the smell of coke can often be a good indicator of quality. Coke made with methanol (as is most SA coke) contains an ester produced from the methanol and the coke in a simple chemical reaction known as transesterfication. The smell of this ester (methyl benzoate) is what gives coke it's characteristic smell. Humans are very sensitive to this ester, and the odour tends to get stronger with a larger amount of coke. A gram 75% or better is usually instantly discernable once the nose has been tweaked enough


Here's the chart some have inquired about.

Thanks to the unmentionable source

 

[linusSL]

Great post phase_dancer, that pretty much answers everything you could want to ask regarding purity of coke in Oz.

Thanks.

 

[ld50 vs ssri]

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Thanks a bunch for clearing that up, I sourced the Marquis reagent reaction from erowid. Thanks for the cutting agent chart