Cocaine Cocaine Hunger/Comedown - Help!

[xikito]

Ok... so it seems the only drug I cannot control *at all* is the cocaine because of its comedown!
Whenever I do it, I feel great for about 30 minutes and after that I start feeling bad... anxious and unconfortable. I then get this hunger to hit another line, which will make the bad feeling go away, for about another 30 minutes. And this keeps on and I cannot control because the feeling of the comedown is real bad!
The problem here is that I snort all the coke there (i even go for the crumbs on the floor) is and I'm really afraid of getting an OD sometimes....

I buy coke twice a year, and everytime I do it I do it all in one night, no matter the quantity!!!!
Tonight I got a really good contact and I bought the purest coke I ever tried, 1g made me more high than 4g of other cokes I tried. Hell, one line of this shit and your shin starts shaking! The bad part is that the comedown is the most heavy ever and lots of hunger for more! And I haver more 3g to go (i'm alone) ... and I'm a bit afraid because I feel losing control of the hunger and that something bad might happen to me (O.D.?)....

Can anyone help me get over this horrible comedown so that I don't snort all the drugs? Most posts over here talk about legal drugs I don't even know here in my country (is in europe), so I appreciate if you could give some advice with things I could have in my house right now, like: hot milk? alcohol?...

p.s: I have haxixe but is only a small rock enough for a small joint, alcoohol (whisky) and a the only legal drug I have is Zyrtec (which is an anti-allergic that gives sleepiness). I don't really know if the interactions of any of this are better or worse for the comedown so I'm not touching anything until I have some proper advice....

p.s.2: reading this post it is totally clear to me that I sound like some crazy dude, ranting the shit out of his mouth and high as a kite lol

 

[monstanoodle]

By the sounds of the comedown you described and the fiending for another line, it sounds like your Coke is cut with Mephedrone, some other substituted Cathinone or Amphetamines. Because the purer the Coke the comedown becomes less intense and nasty, whereas with substituted Cathinones (and Phet I guess) there's quite a nasty comedown if quite a lot is done.

If by Haxixe you mean Hash then that might help a little bit but you don't have much.
Alcohol could either help, make things worse or be dangerous.
And I don't get why Zyrtec (Cetirizine) would cause drowsiness as it barely crosses the Blood-Brain Barrier.

I'm sorry but by the sounds of things all you can do is smoke a spliff and let things run their course.
The more you do the worse you're going to feel.

 

[xikito]

Alcohol could either help, make things worse or be dangerous.

Actually, during my wait for a reply I've done two whisky shots and it helped a lot!
It got me a nice buzz and the anxiety went away... and more importantly It killed my urge!

Looks like I'll just have to hang-on ... and by the looks of it, until dawn

 

[monstanoodle]

Ah oki then Good stuff
Yea, just smoke a spliff n ride it out

 

[kn5904]

The comedown is the worst, esp. when its cut with junk....i hear you when i do coke, i do it all too, and i do the lines closer and closer, so it goes faster and faster. If you can get ure hands on a benzo (Ativan, Xanax, Klonopin) when your doing your last line, if you take one of these it will ease the comedown a bit....hope you have a goodnite!

 

[xikito]

By the sounds of the comedown you described and the fiending for another line, it sounds like your Coke is cut with Mephedrone, some other substituted Cathinone or Amphetamines. Because the purer the Coke the comedown becomes less intense and nasty, whereas with substituted Cathinones (and Phet I guess) there's quite a nasty comedown if quite a lot is done.

Actually, I've been getting the coke from differnet sources so I don't really think that could be it. I am starting to think it is something related to my personal psyche or something like that... other people have done the same shit as I have and don't feel the same enourmous urge!
I've been doing E for more than 8 years now (a couple of times a year) and I do pot for more than 10 years now, and I've been always a vert controlled man... I can always say "no" when I needed to. But not with coke! I dont get it ... it is so unfair, because I like the high so much....

Looks like I'll have to keep away from it, since I cannot control the cravings.

I can notice the major cravings around 30 minutes after a line, with any coke i've ever tried (around 5 different suppliers)....

 

[kn5904]

Yeah I agree with you, i can never, ever say no to coke...even if i know theres only a little bit to begin with, and that it'll be gone soon. Some people just feind out more than others...sucks that we are those people!! Enjoy your white tonight (Im jealous, we only have Dilaudid...E is extinct around here)....

 

[xikito]

Enjoy your white tonight (Im jealous, we only have Dilaudid...E is extinct around here)....

Well... the way I'm enjoying my white right now, is talking about this shit! weird thing, hein ? I just want to talk, talk, talk, even though I don't really want to call any of my pals and let them know what I'm going throught...kind of ashmed! lol
this forums really help a lot, to get things throught anonymously.

Anyway...real E (powder) is really getting short! God damn the police working so good... all they've done is getting the quality really low!

Here, in europe, most of the E comes from the netherlands (holland), but they have been doing lots of raids lately, so the quality has been getting worse and worse by the day... its really a shame! It makes me think that the laws don't work so good to block consumption, but that they work better to worsen the qualoty of the drugs themselve, because dealers won't be making any less profit from the drugs they have!

Well... at least I'm very happy i'm not living in the US, where pot can get you arrested! Here in europe the law is much more flexible.
For example: in Spain I can gow two plants legally s for each person living in a house! pretty great hey?
In other european countries I can get caught with pot and nothing worse than a slap in the wrist would ever happen to me.

Drugs are part of our social lifes, whether we accept that or not! Making them illegal, don't make people want it less: it makes little children what it more (because it defies society), creates all that parallel money circuit (not tax income on dope money) and crushes quality away!
Making it legal, in the other hand, would open acess to everyone to their effects.. so what? I believe that a mature society should deal with the problems up front and not shut they away and pretend thay are not real, like they are trying to do now!
Look at alcohol for example: not everyone is addictived to it (even though some people are), and still the society has learnt to deal with it.
In europe that issue is more clear to us because we never had the alcohol prohibition and it is normal for a teenager to dring a bit of alcohol (average 16 years old across europe). Like a cup or wine or two during dinner. Because of this, poeple are more used to dring alcohol and are more moderate in their use, in their adult life, than say, american people.
Not wanting that anyone thinks I'm atacking american people (and oh god we know how protective you guys are ), this effect is even seen between countries in europe where the alcohol laws are more strict. For example in England their drinking age has been 18 for a while now, and in span and portugal it is normal for a 14 years old to start drinking (moderately) and the law doesn't mean shit to anyone, gearding the drinking age. What happens is that english young adults, drink too much (maybe to compensate they legal limits?), and they can't hold their liquor as much.... spanish and portuguese, since they have to deal with it since they are young and is considered natural in the society, they tend to hold they liquour better and don't drink as nearly as much as the english!! Is this just a coincidence? I can also safely say, that in spain and portugal, we have lots of access to drugs and its normal to consume them! Everywhere you go out at nigh in Lisbon or Madrid, you will see someone (lots of people, actually ) getting high on E or cocaine. Remember: they all, except the plants you grow, were brought illegally (again: no tax income on this!) and without any quality assurance. And the society is working normally.... and not everyone is a junkie but the truth is that it has learnt to deal with this reality and we have reached a good balance between working societe / drug use / amusement. (spain is a better example than portugal... portuguese people are naturally more lazy; its the effect of the lastest communist revolution in the 70ths. nothing to do with more drug abuse ).

I ain't saying drugs are good to society; I'm just trying to say that society should be learning to live with them instead of trying to pretend "people shoudln't and won't do that", and also should be making some money out of it (tax income ftw!)... I guess this economic crisis would be long gone if drugs were made legal, instead of getting a few selected pockets full (drug lords).

Oh well... ranting is over... the white is letting itself loose! Good night everyone, and always think: having fun is nice, until fun is interfering with your personal plans! never let them interfer with them, or else it will turn out to be an internal excuse for your plans not to be accomplished... for ever and ever! don't let the cycle get to you! feel free and enjoy the good feelings that god has leant us... there is time for everyting in life: enjoyment and hard work! I've been working the shit since I graduated, and have had my share of fun (always controlled: fun vs work I must do), and life has been very rewarding! Believe!






Conclusion: the more you try to control and prohibit something the society likes (i.e. alcohol), the more you restrain its natural control over it...

 

[xikito]

I've failed miserable today... I've snorted at least 3 more lines in the meanwhile and I'm still awake because of that (its 8 am where i live).... god damn the fuccking urge!!!!!

 

[Nib]

I've failed miserable today... I've snorted at least 3 more lines in the meanwhile and I'm still awake because of that (its 8 am where i live).... god damn the fuccking urge!!!!!

Well if it makes u feel any better its 5am and i just did hopefully my last mdpv line. Think i totaled about 50mg's, so coulda been worse. But now i know what ppl mean when they say that shit is stealth bingey damn.

So yea Sorry but i got xanax for my comedown. Coke comedowns would also drive me fucking insane. I hated them so god damn much I actually stoped drinking so I wouldn't do it. After about 5 years of saying whyyyyyyy though.



Edit - Well if u have coke on hand and ur like me U wont stop till its all gone, or till u pass-out from being up to long doing coke. But then ull just wake up wondering wtf and finish ur coke.


But now that you're up, my suggestion is to do a nice fat line, take a nice drive to the store for alcohol and benadryl. Diphenhydramine HCL is what u want. It's whats mixed in Tylenol PM to make u sleep, but if your gonna drink alcohol to u dont want the tylenol.

Or maybe u can find someone to trade some coke for benzos lol.

 

[rockarolla]

man old thread i know but many of us have that urge to keep going. love of the high, fear of the comedown, knowing your next day is already screwed so why not keep going. The comedowns for me are so horrible i can't explain. guilt, self loathing, regret whatever the frack else i can throw at myself. i will not do coke anymore without benzos - ativan, xanax, cloaxapam (kpins), or opiates 10-20mg of oxy. this stops the urge to take more, and you get a press pass on the comedown pit of despair. you cannot do coke anymore without these get out of jail cards free cause it's going to get you hating yourself. i only do on rare occassions but i just can't handle without the above anymore and say no to it without. search coke downdowns and opiates, and coke comedowns and benzos they are your only friend in a tough time. keep you chin up we've all been there. hearing the birds chirp in the morning = hating myself!!

 

[dramatica]

Coke is the dust of the devil himself. It leaves you an empty shell once its through! Back awhile I'd get a gram each weekend and get crazy drunk, did that for three months and it was fun as hell. Stopped for a long time, but the next time I was on the white, fear of the comedown was gnawing at me before I could even fully appreciate the peak. Not worth it anymore to me but I consider that a good thing. might get down with it once more as long as I got extra dough and a whole lot of nothinnn to do the next day ;] Dram

 

[rockarolla]

Dram so true - after your third line you're already worrying about the comedown and spend the rest of the night with your hand in your pocket, fretting. I've moved this drug in the very very rare pile. empty shell is the perfect description - it leaves you with nothing of yourself. i have kids so imagine looking them in the eye.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I would just avoid using cocaine at all.

There are plenty of drugs that don't have such a nasty come down.

 

[dramatica]

I would just avoid using cocaine at all.

There are plenty of drugs that don't have such a nasty come down.

oh In-Deeeed. it was crazy fun for awhile, when I had all the cocaethylene swimming in the brain. I was like superman. I also wouldve been super-dead if I kept up that pace. desire is down to zero now luckily

 

[asouthern]

The comedown is the worst, esp. when its cut with junk....i hear you when i do coke, i do it all too, and i do the lines closer and closer, so it goes faster and faster. If you can get ure hands on a benzo (Ativan, Xanax, Klonopin) when your doing your last line, if you take one of these it will ease the comedown a bit....hope you have a goodnite!

i have only done coke maybe 15-20 times in my life but after the first few times i found that i absolutely had to have some kind of benzo just before i did my last line or i would not only be uncomfortable but be up all night (or the rest of the morning/day depending on the situation.)

certainly not my DOC but i agree that benzos help more than anything when dealing with a comedown from coke.

god bless benzos for so many reasons, really.

 

[rockarolla]

i have only done coke maybe 15-20 times in my life but after the first few times i found that i absolutely had to have some kind of benzo just before i did my last line or i would not only be uncomfortable but be up all night (or the rest of the morning/day depending on the situation.)

certainly not my DOC but i agree that benzos help more than anything when dealing with a comedown from coke.

god bless benzos for so many reasons, really.

LOL HERE HERE TO BENZO and if you don't have those Ops will provide a get out a jail free card too.

 

[xxl]

Note that if there's absolutely no active cut in your coke, the come-down is not that long for coke is not a long-acting drug (that's why you need to redose so often). So lying in your bed with your eyes closed for 2 to 3 hours with the central heating on should do the trick. You just lie there and "look" at the turmoil on the inward side of your eyes, telling yourself this is going to be over soon. It is difficult to believe it but on good coke (and if you do not drink alcohol) you can actually have a normal night's sleep minus the above-mentioned 2 to 3 hours.

Thing is, coke these days is so often cut with active cut that are 10 times longer-acting that pure coke, and that's why if you don't know your coke it is essential to have a tranquilizer or a sleeping-pill handy. For me the strongest argument to give up coke is the cuts that can take away your sleep for days on end.

 

[jammon]

hey read this

excellent coke does not give any anxiety at all
It goes off slowly and peacefully, like it should
It doesn't fuck up your appetite, you can still eat
It's not speedy, its a relaxed high.

unfortunately, they add speedy cuts like caffeine, which makes you anxious feeling like shit
remember that 2 gr of cocaine dissolve in 1 ml of water.

luckily, a lot of cuts like caffeine, are not that soluble in water at all, 20 mg of it dissolve in 1 ml
so anything that doesn't dissolve in the tinest ammount of water, aint cocaine

but use high grade ethanol instead, the alcohol they sell in pharmacies %)

 

[tricomb]

Why bump a thread that's 2 years old? Unfortunately levamisole can't really be dealt with like that IIRC.