Cocaine's been going around among my friends lately and everyone I've seen has had a great time with it, encouraging me to try it. I don't believe I have a very addictive personality but I am worried about the instant-death that can come from cocaine (seizures as a result of constricted blood vessels and increased blood pressure). I have had no adverse reactions to other drugs such as marijuana, of course, prescription CNS depressants (xanax, clonezpam), prescription opioids (percocet, vicodin), opium, MDMA, and probably most importantly, lots of ritalin and adderall. How many people actually get these seizures? Does my stimulant use show that I can handle coke?
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Cocaine Fatalities
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pimpsta
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this topic has been done quite a bit....use the search in the health forum....also, google has quite a few links for that
PhreeX
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Unless yer IV'ing huge amounts you probably don't have anything to worry about... of course if you have any pre-existing heart conditions this may not be the case...
meister
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Cocaine is not that structurally similar to amphetamines or ritalin, so an allergic reaction would not be impossible. Snorted cocaine is pretty safe, but smoked freebase(crack)/injected increases risks. Some people do randomly die from low-moderate doses of cocaine, but this is very rare.
PhreeX
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Lets be clear now -
To "die from cocaine" that would be death because of acute toxicity ... most people that "died from cocaine" actually died because they had a heart attack or something similar...
To "die from cocaine" that would be death because of acute toxicity ... most people that "died from cocaine" actually died because they had a heart attack or something similar...
zorn
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There's no difference, Phreex. All agents' produce acute toxicity by causing some part of the body to stop working correctly. Large amounts of cocaine directly act to disrupt the normal working of the heart and arteries and damage the whole cardiovascular system, through a myriad of direct and indirect mechanisms.
When these cause coronary vasospasm and hence a heart attack, that's dying from cocaine... its acute toxicity... just like inhaling VX or sarin would be dying from nerve gas, not "lung failure."
dajo, in general, the risk of death from occasional reasonable cocaine use is very very low. However long-term use will slowly damage your heart arteries (artherosclerosis), basically speeding up the process of aging. So the more coke you do, the more likely nasty reactions (from chest pain to full out heart attack) become. And this damaging of your cardiovascular system makes natural heart attacks, strokes, etc more likely as you get older, too.
When these cause coronary vasospasm and hence a heart attack, that's dying from cocaine... its acute toxicity... just like inhaling VX or sarin would be dying from nerve gas, not "lung failure."
dajo, in general, the risk of death from occasional reasonable cocaine use is very very low. However long-term use will slowly damage your heart arteries (artherosclerosis), basically speeding up the process of aging. So the more coke you do, the more likely nasty reactions (from chest pain to full out heart attack) become. And this damaging of your cardiovascular system makes natural heart attacks, strokes, etc more likely as you get older, too.
AbraMontague
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I agree with Zorn. If someone snorts a few lines of coke and has a heart attack within a couple of hours, it would probably be considered acute toxicity from cocaine use. Every toxic (or potentially toxic) chemical known to man has a mechanism of action/toxicity, they are not just inherently toxic (cyanide is a cytochrome oxidaze inhibitor which prevents cellular respiration and causes you to turn blue and die). Most of coke's toxic effects come from a hyperadrenergic state that can cause heart attacks, strokes, and seizures in the short run, and cardiomyopathy and congestive heart failure in the long run.
To answer the question of risk, death from cocaine alone (no alcohol in particular) is rare, but it does happen. Mortality is much more common when cocaine is combined with alcohol, other drugs, or in the presence of certain medical disorders (heart problems, circulation problems, etc). If you are perfectly healthy, and don't combine the coke with anything else, the risk is very low in the short term. As someone mentioned, the long term is a different story. Probably the biggest danger is that you have trouble controlling your habit and go on to long term use. Of course, IVing and smoking it has a higher incidence of acute toxicity, regardless of how healthy you are.
To answer the question of risk, death from cocaine alone (no alcohol in particular) is rare, but it does happen. Mortality is much more common when cocaine is combined with alcohol, other drugs, or in the presence of certain medical disorders (heart problems, circulation problems, etc). If you are perfectly healthy, and don't combine the coke with anything else, the risk is very low in the short term. As someone mentioned, the long term is a different story. Probably the biggest danger is that you have trouble controlling your habit and go on to long term use. Of course, IVing and smoking it has a higher incidence of acute toxicity, regardless of how healthy you are.