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Cocaine and E addiction help my friend

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Hi. When in high school I was a big raver doing coke E and L weekly and even daily. + nitrous. I then fell into opiats addiction where I am now 2 years clean but through MMT(methadone maint program)

Well my friend is struggling and asked me for help since he knew I was in a bad way. He's doing coke and e and nitrous daily. He took the first step asking for help. But I don't know how to make the withdraw stop from these substances. And him doing what I did getting addicted to opiats to make it one addiction where I know a treatment plan is really dumb.

So I come to you blue light how can we help our fallen friend? I told him to delete his connect number and change his own. Smoke weed and don't kill yourself. I don't know what's the next step. I'm in MMT still I'm going to ask my clinic but I don't know other than group therapy what to do. Help please. He's a good guy thanks.
 
He won't delete his connect cause it's his bud dealer and I can't convince him to stop his income. I don't think he's willing to go to inpatient facility yet which I see is the only option. So maybe he needs to be in a bad way for a bit more till he really looses everything. I know it was that final straw that got me seriously seeking legit help not some home made detox. But he hasn't been doin coke long. Maybe you guys know somethig I don't that can help him. I told him to try hard to get 3 days clean. Or talk to a professional and even"after work rehab" system. Though that's more for staying clean not getting clean. Any advice would be amazing. We live near Philly just north. Thanks.
 
Hi There :)

So this guy is doing e (MDMA) Cocaine and Nitrous daily ? as well as smoking weed.

In his view are all of these things causing him problems ?, it's not common for people to use MDMA daily although I've known it a few times before.

Polydrug use like this is often difficult to deal with, some would insist abstinence from everything is what is required but with such little information it's impossible to hold a credible view. IME daily use of Cocaine is only ever a bad thing.
 
I would bet cocaine is the main force of his problems myself. But his frequent use of everything on top from when he gets home from work till 3 am daily is bad enough. He withdraws at work and is in a vicious cycle of dependency. He's taken too many loans out on feel good chemical reaction that depression and physical addiction has taken a hold. And I'm unsure if anything but a rehab can stop this. But I'm unsure. I was addicted to coke but was able to stop cold turkey without much physical problems. He said he just needs to go to NA but I fear that won't be enough at all. I don't know what to do for him.
 
thats a tough one. he sounds dependant and unhappy with out drugs which ive been there before. really if he doesnt want to rehab or something that can help him, he will have to hit his bottom before he is willing to try to stop. i go to AA and it helps me and i used to be very against it, but i know i dont want to use anymore so if it can help me stay sober, i will continue going.
 
In terms of chemical treatment plans you're largely correct, unlike opiates replacement therapies are rarely used for stimulants in general.

If he's doing Coke daily I'd be pretty sure it either has or will start creeping into daytime as well as night time use, it has a way of working it's way into your life like almost nothing else I've ever come into contact with and the financial implications catch up with everyone in the end.

I'd agree with the above, hedonism alone is unlikely to be the reason for this behaviour and I doubt when he's alone at 3am trying to get another line up his half blocked nose he's feeling all that great.

Try to be supportive rather than focus on the obvious errors in his current actions, something or things are driving this destructive behaviour and it's addressing these that is going to be the key to preventing him from sinking further into the abyss.
 
^ The last paragraph on the post above me is dead on.

How is this person still standing?
I used to do E & nitrous together on a weekly basis and by the time I felt better, it was next weekend. Bring coke in the mix, this guy is all but strung out.

There is little you can do, and when he comes down he is gonna have one hell of a seratonin crash. He is going to have to want to stop on his own.
 
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