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CNN Reports Abuse-Resistant Oxys on the way

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http://www.cnn.com/2001/HEALTH/08/08/oxycontin.reformulation/index.html
Sorry to have to be the bearer of bad news kids, but thats the story. The funny thing is that this idea was discussed in a thread about super-long acting chems.
One Question that occured to me is what percentage of their market share might abuse cover? Obviously not a substancial enough one.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The maker of the powerful prescription pain medication OxyContin said Wednesday it is working on patent application for a new formula of the opiate-based drug, hoping to make it less susceptible to abuse and addiction.
The new formulation would make it "a lot more difficult to get a high" from OxyContin, said Robin Hogen, executive director of public affairs for Purdue Pharma of Norwalk, Connecticut. The painkiller has become a popular street drug, delivering an instant high when crushed or dissolved and ingested.
Hogen said the new drug would have to pass through clinical trials required by the Food and Drug Administration, which means it might be two to three years before it could be prescribed by doctors. Among the hurdles, Hogen said, are efficacy trials that would show how well the new formula handles pain relief.
"This is part of our corporate effort to stem the abuse," Hogen said. "Our number one priority is to find an abuse-resistant formulation which would give good pain relief and is almost abuse proof." The company gave no indication of plans to pull OxyContin from the market.
OxyContin is an opiate-based prescription medicine taken as an oral, controlled-release tablet. It acts for 12 hours, making it the longest-acting pain reliever on the market. Others need to be taken every four to six hours.
Recent studies show that patients who take the drug as prescribed do not report a "high," making them less likely to become addicted abusers. Those who are abusing the drug by chewing it, or crushing and snorting the pill, are bypassing the time-release coating, getting the full effects of the opiate at once.
Several deaths have resulted from abuse of OxyContin -- sometimes called "hillbilly heroin" -- in Kentucky, Ohio, Virginia and West Virginia. Some states attorneys general are suing the manufacturers for costs related to addicts. Others are trying to limit the ability of doctors to prescribe the drug to Medicaid patients, whose prescriptions are paid for by the government.
The FDA recently issued its strongest possible warning for the painkiller, advising doctors to prescribe it only for severe pain and warning of the dangers of improper use.
 
Yeah, I saw that. They are developing a new version that will destroy its own potency if it's crushed. Not out for at least three years though.
 
Oh rest assured my little drug fiends.... PhreeX Industries Inc will be working 'round the clock to fix this problem! It comes down to this - you have a narcotic, well, that narcotic can produce pleasure - WE WILL MAKE THE NARCOTIC WORK FOR US!
To date, PhreeX Industrues Inc has only been foiled by ONE painkiller - Dilaudid CR (aka "DillyContin") .. it was a plastic capsule, the narcotic was in the form of a thousand little plastic beads... the first hour of our "clinical trials" were spent chasing after the little beads - they went everywhere! Once we had all of them, well, they are like LITTLE PLASTIC BEADS - can't melt them, can't crush them (they turn to little plastic disc's) ... not much fun ... hopwfully Purdue wont follow Knoll's lead..
Lets also not forget that by the time this hits the market, the patent for OxyContin will be expired, or close to it.. thus opening the doors for someone else to make it as-is
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kind of coincidental that purdue says it will take three years to get the replacement drug to market.that's when their patent runs out and generics would hit the market.
 
I don't think it's a "conspiracy" or anything... FDA approvals take a LONG TIME, yes, about 3 years or so... you could assert that purdue WAITED until now to start making this, bvut I don't think the abuse has been THAT big of an issue until now...
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Its true that Oxy's patent will be close to being expired, BUT the company can do something to delay the expiration. Alot of companys (especially if they are going to loose a lot of money) will change something minor to the pills ( i.e. pill color, size) and it delays the expiration for up to 2-3years.
Plus with all of the lawsuits that are coming up against the makers of Oxy, I doubt that any "generic" company will want the hassle. (Lawsuits against Oxy, is completely insane if you ask me, b/c the company didn't MAKE them take it, but I digress!)
 
All I have to say is it will still be easy to remove the outer coating of OxyContin.
Most likely you will thereafter have to do nothing more than dissolve your pill in cold distilled water for a little while and stir here and there. You will be able to take it orally without the time release bothering you just fine and get just as high as always. It'll just take a little planning ahead.
And I'm beyond positive there will be someway to get beyond the other drug in it anyways.
I really don't understand how they'll coat the other chemical either way without breaking it in the process of making the pill. It'll probably turn out that the other chemical breaks open out of it's coating anyways in the stomach and they won't be able to release it.
If Purdue really wanted to do something about it, they'd do the capsules and beads.
And it's not even their fucking responsibility anyways. They provide the drug to doctors. The doctors provide the drug to the abusers. If a doctor is too stupid to figure out how to prescribe a drug, they shouldn't be a fucking doctor.
 
yeah, dont think this new "ANTI'ABUSE" shit is not going to stop anything...it will be years before their new "miracle drug" will hit the markets, and by then im sure there will be underground labs making shitloads of it...fuck, its already started up...
when there is a ton of cash in a drug, NOTHGING will stop the production of it..hasn't the DEA found that out yet??
 
"Underground labs" ? Huh? What kinda of crap is that... you wont see Oxycodone produced in a clandestine setting as it's not an easy synth - if you're going to make synthetic opiates, you go for fentanyl...
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i've read a codeine --> oxycodone synth that would be relatively easy for somebody with any decent chemistry experience (i'm not once of these ppl, unfortunately). I live close enough to mexico that I could just drive down there, get a few bottles of T4's or something, come back and do a water extraction on the t4's and make the codiene into oxy
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of course I could be wrong...just my 2 cents
 
Yes, conversions are not that difficult, so that could be done... but I just dont see enough people buying "powdered oxycodone" ... I think something like meth would have a lrger market - lets HOPE I am wrong, oh god, lets PRAY I am wrong! I would LOVE to see ounces of raw oxycodone for sale...
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pHREEX-believe me, i have been talking to a few people with good MEX ties, and there are very strong rumors of KILO's of OXY going around...rumor has it that they are going for $60K per...there is a ton of cash in OXY,and the "right" people know it...the OXY revolution has only begun..trust me fellas...
 
well,according to my buddies, its only the tip of the iceberg...they have been VERY helpful and RELIABLE in the past, so there is NO reason for me NOT to believe them...
how many want to go in for a KILO??HEHEHE
has anyone tried OXYFAST??it comes in a 30 cc, 20 mg/cc vial made by purdue..it is injectable oxycodone...
 
What I read was that they are looking to add an antagonist(sp?) that when the pill was crushed it would mix with the opaite blocking its effects.
To me it sounded along the lines of what happens when you give someone on opaites Narcan.
 
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