tricomb
Bluelight Crew
IMO opiates are much better for public speaking.
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Benzos Clonzepam for panic attacks- public speaking
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I've done multiple trail runs actually with clonazepam, and my speech is on Friday. I will be practicing with my group tomorrow but not sure which medication route to take so I can speak with the most fluency,
since I sometimes block up on presentations.
since I sometimes block up on presentations.
benzo bars
Bluelighter
This. The opiates will most definitely make you sociable, euphoric, and give you a high self esteem.
Do you have a tolerance to opiates at all ? How often do you take them ? What MG are your morphine and percocets ?
If you have a 5mg percocet, then you could take .5 KPin and definitley feel good and be able to deliver your speech.
I'd take opiates over benzos if not both on any day for a public speech.
I have 60 mg Morphine and 5 mg oxys. My tolerance is moderate I'd say because I used to be heavy on morphine for a while but not anymore, and could take two 60s and feel nice.
I just don't know about combing the two the last time I did that I was in a dream state and I don't want them to think I'm on heavy meds.
I just don't know about combing the two the last time I did that I was in a dream state and I don't want them to think I'm on heavy meds.
A quicker onset has no effect on addictive potential, although it does tend to make the quicker-acting benzos more favorable to users. This is why hypnotics are usually more popular than anxiolytics - they kick in faster. Physically, alprazolam may cause dependence quicker because it is a short-acting benzo. But the physical addiction to clonazepam is no less intense, it just may take a longer time to develop as it is a longer-acting benzo.
Psychological addiction is highly subjective and depends on the individual. Some will like clonazepam more, other will find that alprazolam floats their boat.
I don't know how much benefit an opiate would add to a benzo in terms of relief of anxiety related to public speaking. It may add additive sedative effects, but not much anti-anxiety effects. I think a benzo alone in moderation would be sufficient enough to alleviate anxiety related to public speaking. In fact, I think a small dose of amphetamine mixed with the benzo would probably be a better combo than a benzo/opiate. Amphetamines add confidence to the equation, so it would be a better choice or combo IMO. Although a moderate dose of an highly anxiolytic benzo with weaker sedative activity like clonazepam or lorazepam on its own would be ideal.
Cyanoide
Bluelighter
I'm a bit surprised the OP got prescribed clonazepam for public speaking. It's sedating, and yes it's effective for panic attacks but beta blockers like propranolol are much better suited for this purpose. Propranolol won't make your mind "dizzy" like clonazepam and it is effective in preventing panic attacks as it keeps your heart from starting to race.
Note taken, thanks for your input. I will take 1 mg clonzeapam before my presentation.
DooMMooD
Bluelighter
I'm going to be straight with you: if you take a bunch of kpins and morphines before your speech, you are going to be fucked up. Youre not just going to be less anxious, less nervous, etc, you are going to be straight fucked up. If what you say is true and 2 of the morphines would have you feeling good because you've laid off the opiates for awhile, well then I think combining any with klonopin is going to fuck you up a good bit more than you think (2+2=5 ime with opiates+benzos).
They will think you're on heavy meds if you do so, because you will in fact be on heavy meds.
In short, I dont think adding an opiate to what youre already taking is going to improve your speech any.
Yes, opiates FOR ME do make me more talkative, more social, all of that jazz. I used to get jammed and go to class alllllll the time, contribute to all class discussion, talk to everyone, make friends everywhere, etc. But that was just opiates. Anytime I mixed even a smaller opiate dose with some benzos and instead of being a chatter box I'd be told some story from a classmate about how fucked up I was in class.
Just a warning man.
tricomb
Bluelight Crew
Yeah when I recommended opiates, it was opiates instead of benzos, not combined with benzos. One or the other.
King Hop Head
Bluelighter
Clonazepam is like a freight train, will reduce shyness, nerves but may adveresly afeect mental functioning.
Thanks for your guys input it means a lot to me. When I practice with my group today Ill let you know how my affects my speech. If I'm not fluent enough, then I'll try morphine for the presentation day and see how it goes.
And your right my doc said clonazepam is a neutron bomb for anxiety.
I'll keep you posted.
opiates and clonazepam will work. thing is do you want to get in the trap of HAVING to use them all the time?
BTW, clonazepam is a prophylactic drug. you have to take it BEFORE an attack. it wont do you any good if you have one (20+ yrs on clonazepam. just quit CT in jan. NOT FUN! respect your drugs)
BTW, clonazepam is a prophylactic drug. you have to take it BEFORE an attack. it wont do you any good if you have one (20+ yrs on clonazepam. just quit CT in jan. NOT FUN! respect your drugs)
Hey guys, just wanted to update you a few things.
My presentation went alright but it could have gone better lets just say. I took 1.25mg clonazepam but my heart was still beating quite fast when I was speaking.
Maybe I should ask my doc for Xanax in these next future types of situations.
My presentation went alright but it could have gone better lets just say. I took 1.25mg clonazepam but my heart was still beating quite fast when I was speaking.
Maybe I should ask my doc for Xanax in these next future types of situations.
Morphine will not sufficiently reduce your stage freight. Clonazepam in a moderate dose (0.5 mg) taken 1 hour before your presentation should be just right. It will not reduce your mental functioning or cause motor-impairment at that dose.
Titus
Bluelighter
IMO ativan or xanax would be better benzo's for use as a PRN in that type of situation and chewing/melting it in your mouth will make it take effect quicker. Klonopin is a longer acting benzo and used more to sustain calmness over a period of hours rather than to address nervousness in the moment.
Another option to explore is clonidine. It's a beta-blocker, typically prescribed for high blood pressure. However, it is prescribed as a PRN (as needed) for public speaking and doctor's themselves will use this when they do a public speaking event (obviously not ALL of them but it is fairly common). It impacts the physical symptoms such as racing heartbeat, etc without interfering at all with one's mental fuctioning. I remember reading a credible source once that said something like 40 or 60% or something like that of doctors have used this as a PRN prior to a public speaking event.
Another option to explore is clonidine. It's a beta-blocker, typically prescribed for high blood pressure. However, it is prescribed as a PRN (as needed) for public speaking and doctor's themselves will use this when they do a public speaking event (obviously not ALL of them but it is fairly common). It impacts the physical symptoms such as racing heartbeat, etc without interfering at all with one's mental fuctioning. I remember reading a credible source once that said something like 40 or 60% or something like that of doctors have used this as a PRN prior to a public speaking event.
