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Benzos Clonazepam vs ativan sublingually

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Nsomnia

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I take 2mg ativan 3x a day for anxiety and they work great for that. If i take all three at once, i get a nice glow/buzz.

Yesterday I took 55mg of clonazepam some orally some sublingually and felt barely anything. edit: within 12 hours

Is it just the way clonazepam is?
 
Hmm, none of this makes much sense to me. I'm guessing you mean 5mg of clonazepam, even in that case you should still feel more IME/IMO than if you took 6mg of ativan all at once. Ativan is about half the strength as clonazepam (different for each person) and also doesn't last as long in it's life or half life. Maybe it's just the way your body chemistry is.
 
Clonazepam, being non-water soluble, is not really absorbed any faster sublingually than it is orally.

And yes, that's just the way clonazepam is. Most people consider it to be basically non-recreational. In general, the short-acting, fast-onset benzos are more recreational (c.f. Xanax/alprazolam, Halcion/triazolam, temazepam), while the long-lasting benzos like clonazepam and phenazepam... well, phenazepam had issues where people would keep taking upwards of hundreds of doses at once and say they are "still not feeling anything"!

If you really did take 55 milligrams of it though, you are almost certainly "feeling it", you just don't realize that your short term memory is totally obliterated, and you probably won't remember the next day or so...
 
I SL'd 4 mg rivotril yesterday. totally sucked. Came on strong, gone in an hour, sedated to this moment. Oral clonazepam was a LOT better, although it may just be due to the setting i was in when i took it. Still have 28 x 2 mg wafers left so maybe ill try 6 mg this weekend and see what that does
 
Nsomnia said:
I take 2mg ativan 3x a day for anxiety and they work great for that. If i take all three at once, i get a nice glow/buzz.

Yesterday I took 55mg of clonazepam some orally some sublingually and felt barely anything. edit: within 12 hours

Is it just the way clonazepam is?
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^works great for some, not at all for others.
just like most everything else.
i never felt any kind of sedation with clonazepam,
and would constantly redose until i reached levels of retardation
i didn't realize i was capable of.
like someone else said earlier..there's really no benefit to sl clonazepam,
like there is with ativan/xanax.
 
IMO clonazepam is the most notorious benzo for making you look like you are all messed up, but you don't feel that way. Clonazepam is suppose to be x2 as strong as Lorazepam mg/mg, but everyones opinion varies. I honestly prefer the effects of lorazepam over clonazepam, but clonazepam lasts much longer and you get more out of less.
 
RTrain said:
IMO clonazepam is the most notorious benzo for making you look like you are all messed up, but you don't feel that way.
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^yeah, i think i must've really lucked out - being able to stop clonazepam before
everybody and their sister could record my dumb ass w/o warning.
 
Clonazepam is the least effective benzodiazepine I have ever taken in my life.

Lorazepam (Active ingredient in Ativan) is already well-absorbed via the oral route, but I take most benzodiazepines via the sublingual route, with two exceptions: temazepam and diazepam. Both of these have near 100% oral BA and are extremely fat soluble so even though I'm sure they'd work well via the SL route, in my experience, onset is not significantly faster via the SL route, hence why I just swallow them, knowing that I'm getting my complete dose.

Why are your options limited to clonazepam or lorazepam? I've found neither of the two to be helpful to me in any way.

It's really disappointing because on paper, clonazepam and lorazepam were the two benzodiazepines that I would expect to be most effective, what with clonazepam's potency and lorazepam's having affinity for each of the six intrinsic BZD receptors and their properties, like it's supposed to possess great antiemetic/antinausea, anxiolytic/anti-anxiety, muscle relaxer, anticonvulsant (most importantly), hypnotic, and amnesic properties, but I found it to be rather ineffective overall for any of these when they were needed.

Clonazepam is indistinguishable from a placebo in my experience, so definitely look into other options if you are not getting what you need out of your current lorazepam / clonazepam instead of trying to force effects that these drugs may not even possess for you by switching the ROA.

I'd definitely have to accept the RX for sublingual lorazepam over clonazepam if I were limited to these options...
 
Clonazepam is a good anticonvulsant, from what I've heard. It does miss the mark quite a bit when it comes to percieved psychological effects.
 
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