Clonazepam effects are hard to place for me - can anyone relate?

[Quantum_truffle]

Hiya!

So I have got a small supply of clonazepam. I've been trying it now and then.

The main reason I wanted the stuff was to be able to sleep at times I am not. Before I tried this benzo, I had some temazepam, and I thought that was wonderful stuff, always knocked me out to a nice deep sleep. Never any after-effects except if I slept for less than 6 hours on temazepam, and I had to go up and do study-related stuff the next few hours after waking up.

So now I've been trying clonazepam for a month, or so. I haven't used it more frequently than once every week. Yesterday night I went to get some pizza with some friends, and drank some beers, and drank some strong liquor. I was near-drunk, and I hadn't been in a long time. When i got home I wanted to sleep as fast as possible so I took the clonazepam. I took a slightly higher dose than I've taken before.

Nevertheless it took pretty long before I was really sleeping, at least two hours, and I already had to get up again after 3 hours. It didn't really feel like I slept very deep those 3 hours - really shallow. I wonder if this is an effect of the alcohol I also drank?

Anyway I had to travel by train some hours, and I prepared for feeling reallllly reallly shitty in the train, because of the combi of a mild hangover from the alcohol and sleep deprivation.

Somehow I felt pretty mellow, high , while in the train, I managed to catch some sleep there, not much, but some. No headache. I almost wanted to start doing something like reading or studying instead of keeping my eyes closed. I haven't really felt this way before in such a situation. ALso a benzo effect? I read the half-life of clonazepam can be 20-40 hours, so I must've still been under influence.

I also scheduled to meet with friends after my train trip, and normally I would've been like... 'Nooooooooo.... Gooo away... I wanna sleep' but now I really felt like it, and only now, in the evening, I feel tired again.

Is it just me, suprising me with my good health and being in the prime of my life and all, or a benzo effect some of you can relate to?

 

[Jabberwocky]

i taken in in an afternoon and felt anxiety free the next morning. it was cool. have u had xanax? what how long does it take for you to hit the peak and how long does it seem to last

 

[Jabberwocky]

also how many mg of clonazepam?

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I can completely relate; clonazepam has caused paradoxical reactions for me, so I refuse to take it now. I also really like temazepam.

I believe that nitrobenzodiazepines kind of have an intense diversity of effects varying among different individuals; some people completely love clonazepam, or flunitrazepam; other people like myself cannot stand clonazepam and I won't try other nitrobenzos (nitrazepam, flunitrazepam) because of my experience and dissatisfaction with clonazepam. And yet others just find it to be a standard run of the mill benzo.

 

[benzico]

clonazepam has a half life of up to 200 hours it is an anti epileptic drug mainly with muscle relaxant effects, it is not meant to be a sleeper benzo but can have nice euphoric effects but got to be careful about dosage. 2mg clonazepam = 40mg diazepam = 80mg tamazepam. have to admitt as well c/h you just read out my 3 favorite benzos! each to there own though mate!

 

[R_DXM]

I can completely relate; clonazepam has caused paradoxical reactions for me, so I refuse to take it now. I also really like temazepam.

I believe that nitrobenzodiazepines kind of have an intense diversity of effects varying among different individuals; some people completely love clonazepam, or flunitrazepam; other people like myself cannot stand clonazepam and I won't try other nitrobenzos (nitrazepam, flunitrazepam) because of my experience and dissatisfaction with clonazepam. And yet others just find it to be a standard run of the mill benzo.

Wow, really? So I'm def. not the only one.

Good topic, QT. and thanks for the speedy reply C_H!

 

[.Lucid.]

ive recently come into a small supply of kpins.. im sort of afraid to take them though. ive never been a benzo guy, opiates and heroin were my thing for a long time. my experience with benzos has been mostly limited to ativan and valium, mostly ativan.

anyway i was reading up on kpins on wikipedia and one of the side effects listed was "severe dysphoria," and i thought wow with my luck that would probably happen to me. is that why you dont like them c.h? id be really interested to hear about your dissatisfaction with clonazepam before i try these lol.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

anyway i was reading up on kpins on wikipedia and one of the side effects listed was "severe dysphoria," and i thought wow with my luck that would probably happen to me. is that why you dont like them c.h? id be really interested to hear about your dissatisfaction with clonazepam before i try these lol.

That's part of it, for sure. It just seems to do the opposite that other benzos do for me (i.e. increases, not decreases, anxiety, stress, etc).

It's the only benzo that just hasn't worked out well for me, so I opt not to take it.

I suspect that some benzos do this for some people. I have heard someone's experience taking temazepam along with alcohol, and promptly staying up all night (very atypical experience for someone without a serious gabaergic tolerance). I have also heard that people get bad effects from lorazepam or diazepam.

I suspect nitrobenzos to do this to me so I opt not to take them. Other people highly enjoy clonazepam.

This is why I don't like it when doctors offer clonazepam because they don't think it's addictive; that's the incorrect way to think about it. Some people seek out clonazepam above other alternatives, so giving it to everyone telling everyone it's not addictive, is just straight being an ignorant doctor/lying to patients.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

lol if clonazepam isn't addictive than why is it taking me over a year to taper off 10mg..
fuckin ignorant doctors.

BTW clonazepam is my fav. benzo FWIW

 

[benzico]

clonazepam ftw !

 

[vvViolet]

i just started tapering down from 3.0mg. of KPIN daily. down to 2.5mg. after almost 4 weeks. i've noticed on numerous occasions that, 3.0mg. of KPIN will keep my anxiety in check for the entire day but sometimes, if i go just a smidgen higher (seriously, like 3.25mg.), i'll get real wonky side effects like bad insomnia or very minor, slightly "bad-trip" psychedelic feeling, shitty feeling thought-loops. it's quite odd. i was on a slightly lower dose of Xanax for years and never experienced such things.

 

[opiatekrzy]

klonopin for me usually only works on my body, relaxes muscles, makes me tired, it doesnt really make meworry free, its more of a heavy sedating benzo, but weak IMO, xanax to me is a cleaner and smoother relaxant, i feel less heavy and care fee...i uased to love klonopin, but having to take 10-15mg at once is not what i want, im on xanax too and take usually 4-8mg and will be fine, i was on temazepam 30mg for sleep, i ate about 180mg and felt fuzzy for an hour or so, like valium, thats it. valium IDK i think its the most euphoric to the benzo nieve person, but i have to take 200mg to feel "okay" i lost the magic it used to give me, im still a believer that 10mg valium =1mg klonopin=1mg xanax, MY OPINION. anyway klonopin is an iffy drug, its better for benzo addicts as it has a long half life, kills all withdrawl, etc.

 

[benzico]

klonopin for me usually only works on my body, relaxes muscles, makes me tired, it doesnt really make meworry free, its more of a heavy sedating benzo, but weak IMO, xanax to me is a cleaner and smoother relaxant, i feel less heavy and care fee...i uased to love klonopin, but having to take 10-15mg at once is not what i want, im on xanax too and take usually 4-8mg and will be fine, i was on temazepam 30mg for sleep, i ate about 180mg and felt fuzzy for an hour or so, like valium, thats it. valium IDK i think its the most euphoric to the benzo nieve person, but i have to take 200mg to feel "okay" i lost the magic it used to give me, im still a believer that 10mg valium =1mg klonopin=1mg xanax, MY OPINION. anyway klonopin is an iffy drug, its better for benzo addicts as it has a long half life, kills all withdrawl, etc.

Can totally relate to that, took 250mg of valium few weeks ago and same as i only feel "ok", i am benzo mad an wish i could be like sum an only take a couple to get high, been smashing them for to long i gusse now, but damm i will always love any benzo, aint one i've come across that i aint liked in the right dose.

 

[opiatekrzy]

yup i miss the good old days, i remember when i was younger, taking 20mg of valium left me waking up on my couch the next morning not remembering jack. or one time (sadly) i took 15mg of Ativan ( must of blacked out after 3mg) ended up in respiratory depression, went to hospital..yeah my tolerance is so high now, that i just had an Ativan script for 60 of the .5, and i tried taking 5mg ,didnt feel shit, ate all 60 within 4 hours, felt nothing. now only xanax and klonopin get me "relieved" but at high doses of 6+mg, valium, forget it, no use for me..i miss when 1mg of xanax had me like so messed up, not shitfaced, but atleast for 4 hours...now my 90 xanax i get a month (1mg) is gone in days...klonopin/xanax, i feel are right around MG to MG in strength, just klonopin is very subtle type of drug, i like xanax how in 2-5mins on an empty stomach in the mornming i feel it, but im trying to only take them to the point where i experience the first sign of W/D :rebound anxiety/extreme irritability

 

[TheDankaholic]

Well I've been on and off benzo's with my pain medications for my chronic pain/medical issues & It's pretty much always been Clonazepam and Temazepam that I've gotten. (legally) I've tried Xanax, Lorazepam, Valium, Midozolam (Versed, I love this one i'm a hypnotic benzo kind of guy, and this is one of the few benzo's that's water soluble if you want to bang them), Phenazepam, etc.

Point being is as of last month I'm back on benzo's because of all the medical issues I've had mixed with life issues, holidays, losing my main job over my medical condition & forced onto disability at 25 made me get really close to cracking. I had such a bad panic attack I had to go to the ER. My Dr let me basically choose what benzo I wanted and asked what worked best for me. I went RIGHT back for Klonopin (Clonazepam) 1mg 2x a day. 2mg a day is perfect with my Dilaudid shots. I used to be on Temazepam 30mg 2 tablets at bedtime to sleep and it was amazing but now he will only give me Ambien to go with my Clonazepam saying the combination should make me sleep fine. If I need a little boost take an extra 8mg of Dilaudid that should help. Those were literally his words.

Clonazepam is my favorite benzo, period. It's that everyone has different physiology and therefore react differently. I love the long acting action of Klonopin, I can dose 2x a day and be anxiety free and honestly pretty euphoric and happy for 24 hours. It lasts an easy 10 hours when Xanax is only like 3 or so. I love Valium for it's euphoria but it fades quick and then seems weak compared to klonopin.

The other one I actually love is Ativan (Lorazepam) which my close living relative gets 90 2mg pills a month of so I always have about 30 2mg Lorazepam on ahnd. Some people call them weak, some love them, I call them the next best thing to sleep as a benzo if you cant get on Temazepam. Ativan isn't a get up and go do something benzo, like go to work. It's a sleepy go to bed benzo. Clonazepam is a get up have some coffee with 2mg & go to work kind of benzo and your whole day will be smooth. Get home and take 2mg of Ativan with some medical marijuana & bed time will be sooner than you think & I'm an insomniac.

I'm a total Clonazepam lover over all other benzos so to each his own. I really think Clonazepam beats the crap out of a Xanax bar. 2mg of Kpin is better than 2mg of Xanax for me. Also I find the brand name Klonopins with the cut-out K in the middle of the pills to be far more effective than some of the generics out there.

 

[opiatekrzy]

in that case, when one is on a benzo for anxiety, etc...klonopin is the best route to go, long half life, long duration, smooth, you can dose twice a day unlike xanax 4x a day, but if ur seeking relief all the time and just using pills and not coping with life in addition, then i guess benzos arent for ya (not for me) i tend to over do it, but ill admit kllonopin i rarely experienced rebound anxiety, tolerance, etc..only with xanax i got that rough road

 

[Quantum_truffle]

Hey, thanks all for your replies!

They've given me a lot more insight into what clonazepam can or can't do in different individuals. For me, after one more dose trying out the possibilities of clonazepam as a sleepin drug, it's clear: I don't sleep better when taking it.

Maybe it's the combination with alcohol. I again drank a small dose of alcohol prior to taken it. (like 0,75L of beer 2-3 hours before) Though, I think that should have been processed by my liver by the time I took the clona.

The times I've taken it and I did fall into a nice deep sleep were situations I think I would have been able to sleep anyway, I think. It might have been part a placebo effect.

So, as something to control anxiety - I think that'd work for me, even though I don't really have anxiety problems. As a way to be high - yes, that as well, but I know more interesting and pleasurable substances.

It is funny to think that I first thought of it as a 'stronger', and longer-lasting version of temazepam. But of course, it's an entirely different substance, with different effects, and effects differing between people a lot.

 

[opiatekrzy]

i just think klonopin is for people who have a history of being on benzo's, and go the klonopin route, so its smoother on them, long lasting, not having to worry about popping a xanax every 4 hours, increased tolerance along with xanax, klonopin is basically in my opinion a methadone to opiate addicts, in addition still having some good effects on people (klonopin)

 

[ChemicalSmiles]

i just think klonopin is for people who have a history of being on benzo's, and go the klonopin route, so its smoother on them, long lasting, not having to worry about popping a xanax every 4 hours, increased tolerance along with xanax, klonopin is basically in my opinion a methadone to opiate addicts, in addition still having some good effects on people (klonopin)

Never thought of it that way.... but my doctor was very apprehensive to give me xanax but handed out klonipin gladly.

 

[benzico]

i just think klonopin is for people who have a history of being on benzo's, and go the klonopin route, so its smoother on them, long lasting, not having to worry about popping a xanax every 4 hours, increased tolerance along with xanax, klonopin is basically in my opinion a methadone to opiate addicts, in addition still having some good effects on people (klonopin)

yer thats the truth for sure an the effects of clonazepam are one of the few that stay good over time, not many benzos can claim that.