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Clonazepam and Alcohol on different days

V82

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Can taking 0.75 - 1 mg of clonazepam once or twice a week and having 3 beers twice a week cause cross tolerance? I've been doing this for a while and 0.75 mg of clonazepam still has a effect on me on an empty stomach.

Is this safe or very dangerous? Can it lead to major problems?
 
Assuming you are otherwise healthy I don't really see these amounts as causing much trouble, healthwise, on the short term.
 
I've been doing this regularly for a bit now. I just don't want to overload my GABA receptors.
 
The beers are really negligible. As far as the klonopin, If you are not dosing more then 1mg AND 2x/week then I believe it would take 6-12 months before there is any desensitization of the receptors. FULL down-regulation of the receptor would overlap with your next dose eventually.

Regardless, sticking to 1mg/dose and up to 2x/week has very little consequence. Skipping a week here and there would most definitely reduce all chances of any physical addiction, and provide some cushion for the psychological addiction. I would grade your dosing pattern as "safe", in terms of dosing patterns.... The only REAL danger to it is the chance for re-dosing in-between these days and building up a larger habit. You can't let this happen; or else it's off to the races
 
The beers are really negligible. As far as the klonopin, If you are not dosing more then 1mg AND 2x/week then I believe it would take 6-12 months before there is any desensitization of the receptors. FULL down-regulation of the receptor would overlap with your next dose eventually.

Regardless, sticking to 1mg/dose and up to 2x/week has very little consequence. Skipping a week here and there would most definitely reduce all chances of any physical addiction, and provide some cushion for the psychological addiction. I would grade your dosing pattern as "safe", in terms of dosing patterns.... The only REAL danger to it is the chance for re-dosing in-between these days and building up a larger habit. You can't let this happen; or else it's off to the races

Thanks for the reply man. Since August 17th I've done 22.25 mg of clonazepam. And since September 13th I've done 12.25. I've had 6 does in October so far for a total of 5.25 mg in October. I know at the end of August i took 8 mg in 15 days. But I've eased up since then. I try to be careful. Does this usage seem safe. Just feeling anxious today and I'm worried it is withdrawal.
 
It's probably not withdrawal.

You gotta remember that clonazepam has a long half life and is in your body for a bit longer than you feel the effects for.
 
Would it be safe to take 1 mg tomorrow? I took 0.75 mg on Sunday and 0.75 mg the week before.
 
You can get psychological symptoms which are not technically considered "withdrawal" symptoms, since they aren't caused by a serious physical dependence, like anxiety when you don't have it. When that occurs with infrequent use, that is more a symptom of a growing mental addiction. I would try not to take it so often. One can become mentally addicted to having it to reduce anxiety, help you sleep, etc, even if you're not taking it often enough/long enough to gain a true physical dependence. And watch out for things like wanting to take it more often.

As to your original question, alcohol and benzos do have cross-tolerance. Whether or not the doses of alcohol and clonazepam you are taking are large enough or often enough to cause very much tolerance is another issue. Everyone is so different and it depends on your metabolism, how much alcohol affects you (for example I would be really drunk off 3 beers, whereas someone else may only feel a very slight buzz), how often you are drinking, whether or not the days you are drinking or using benzos are in a row or have breaks between each, whether you find you have a higher tolerance to alcohol when you drink 2x a week as opposed to when you drink, say, once every 2 months, etc. From what you said about your situation I would say that it shouldn't give you too much of a tolerance, but you would still have a higher tolerance than someone who doesn't drink alcohol at all.
 
phenibut is legal and doesn't require a prescription and only hits GABA-B, although it's quite fucking addictive and I would not suggest using it more than once a week MAX, even once every 2 weeks, but it could certainly help in this situation.

You gotta remember that clonazepam has a long half life and is in your body for a bit longer than you feel the effects for.

^This right here, will lead to most of your problems if you don't keep it in mind. The "high" wears off but it's still in your body.
 
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