Ciggy smokers should be paid less or made to work longer

[CHiLD-0F-THE-BEAT]

I try to cash in on the extra time off the smokers get, with regular water breaks..

-=Walks to the water cooler...stretches...fills up bottle...saunters past=-

^This method is healthier too. :D

 

[josh_nexus]

I pretend I smoke specifically to cash in on the breaks. I suppose you could say I am a pack a day fantacy smoker.

 

[nezo]

but how do you replicate that sexy ashtray smell that all smokers have?

 

[pubeman]

the office i work in is a joke, We have "creative thinking" lounges, where you can go to get your mind working (or have a snooze) and getting a coffee ends up being a 30 min affair because you always get bailed up by someone who wants to chat your ear off, but i spose it all evens out, we generally do a lot of unpaid overtime, and have to stay back late to do conference calls

 

[up all night]

^ I read that twice and still don't get what it has to do with smoking.

 

[pubeman]

^^ Yeah I really kinda went off on a tangent didn't I

 

[MOTOMAN]

I agree with you nezo 100%. That's why I don't smoke at work, but I am a light smoker which makes it easier.

Does anyone know if an employer can ask someone at an interview if they smoke or not, resulting in costing them the job?

 

[pilpopa9000]

At my job we have to clock out to have a cigarette if its outside our allocated break. I think thats fair.

 

[nezo]

it would be discrimination if you didn't get the job because you smoked I reckon. So they shouldn't be able to ask you that question. If they do, tell them it has no relevance to your ability.

 

[preacha]

^^ it has relevance to how much you are going to use that ability within the workplace.

 

[nezo]

for example......???

 

[Strawberry_lovemuffin]

Does anyone know if an employer can ask someone at an interview if they smoke or not, resulting in costing them the job?

I was asked this question when I went for the job at my company. In fact, it was a question by itself on a FORM we had to fill in. "Do you smoke?" Tick YES, or NO.

They were quite clear in the interview that they frowned on smoking (it's a natural health products company full of clean-living 'one shandy at Christmas' family men), and it took me a lot of deliberation whether I was going to lie about it or not. But in the end I said "fuckit" and ticked YES. It was a gamble, but it was better than lying and being found out. They would have to hire me on my merits or not at all.

Do you know, in my second interview, they even went so far as to ask me," If you are successful in gaining this position, would you be willing to give up smoking?"

That sounded *extremely* dodgy to me.... I mean, who the fuck are they to dictate that to me? So I stuck to my guns and said "I'm sorry, but no. I only have two a day, and I really don't think it will affect my work performance, so no." I was, admittedly, pretty confident they wanted to hire me by that stage. Oh the dilemmas! They chewed their fingernails and ummed and ahhed and..... They hired me anyway, so I guess good sense won out in the end 8)

But it took 3 years before they stopped making comments like "going for a gasper are we?" or "Taking in the FRESH air, eh? *snicker snicker*" Luckily they've just given up on me now :D

 

[h@ndo]

It depends on what sort of job you have surely ?!!

I work in an office which allows it's emloyees to go for a smoke break when they want feel like. Yeah we have some moaners (non smokers) who have a bit of a whinge but at the end of the day if my quota of work is complete by it's due date then it doesn't matter.

Whinge, whinge, whinge

 

[PsychoKitten]

My god... sounds like a prison!

They used to have to clock out and clock back in when they went before... they much prefer sticking to this way, especially after they realised they were missing out on over an hours pay per day.

 

[pubeman]

It is not legally defined as discrimination if a company advertises a job and says "smokers need not apply"

 

[ravebuddha]

The way I figure it there should just be a quid pro quo system... for example.

I work In corporate theatre (lighting and sound etc for big business.) Being the senior crew member I have instituted this rule. Every 2 1/2- 3 hours (at my discretion) All smokers are entitled to a ten minute smoke break. All non-smokers are then given their SAADFA break... SAADFA means stand around and do fuck all. They may spend this time however they want; getting a drink etc...

I realise this is not practical for all work places but luckily it works fine for us.

cheers

ravebuddha

 

[Taliana]

I do actually think its annoying. Im a non smoker and always have been, and the smokers are always going uot for little breaks. But should i decide oh im just gonna go sit outside for 10 minutes and chat it wouldnt be acceptable behaviour. I want my breaks too bitches.

I like Mirages idea. Care to implement it? hehe

 

[ravebuddha]

I do actually think its annoying. Im a non smoker and always have been, and the smokers are always going uot for little breaks. But should i decide oh im just gonna go sit outside for 10 minutes and chat it wouldnt be acceptable behaviour. I want my breaks too bitches.

This is the exact reason I developed the system I did. Although I am a smoker I do not feel it is fair on the non-smoking employees for us (smokers) to get a break to satnd around and chat while they do not. With the system I use everybody gets a ten minute break whether you smoke or not.

ravebuddha