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Christianity working out for anyone else?

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I am not going to pretend to be a tidings paying bible quoting type of guy.

That said I do try really hard to treat others as i would want to be treated in their situation. AND IT WORKS GREAT. Meeting alot better quality of people and being treated kindly. Got into a dentist who wasn't acceptng new patients with medicaid, huzzah.

You could also look at this like from the Rick and Morty persective: Being nice is just hedging your bets for some sympathy when you fuck up. (thats paraphrased)

Or a common sense lense: If you are an asshole you will be treated as such.

Does anyone else feel like this is the spinal chord of being a decent person? (that metaphor may not be great but you get it)
 
I'm not exactly sure why people need religion in order to be a good person anyway.
It's basically saying "I'm a bad person but religion keeps me from acting it out", when there are plenty of atheists who don't need religion to be good people.


Religion plays a big role in why homophobia proliferated our society.
It's also partially responsible for our never ending drug war, since using drugs is seen as a "moral failing" that needs correcting.


Religion is mind control.


However, belief in a higher power is different from following a religion. I think it's fine if people want to believe in a higher power. I just don't understand why that "higher power" always has to be modeled after Jesus or abrahamic religions. Why not invent your own god, with his own set of rules & beliefs?


You can still be a good person & continue doing what you're doing without needing to affix a label like "Christian" to it.

The bible says "thou shalt not kill", but then a few chapters over says you should stone & kill undesirable people. There are WAAY too many contradictions. So I don't think the bible or the religions it's spawned is truly a guide to being a "good person". Not to mention, as long as you ask for forgiveness, you'll be saved anyway. Which means you can live your life doing absolutely heinous things, but as long as you repent right before death, you'll be fine. Which makes no sense to me.
 
DeathIndustrial88 said:
Religion is mind control.
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There's God. Then, there's religion.
DeathIndustrial88 said:
However, belief in a higher power is different from following a religion. I think it's fine if people want to believe in a higher power. I just don't understand why that "higher power" always has to be modeled after Jesus or abrahamic religions.
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It doesn't have to be. But you can get there with that path as well, if you like.

"Don't follow leaders, watch the parking meters"
 
lecroute said:
I have my own set of morals and am currently working on creating my own religion (meaning: making sense of spiritual things)
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I have a set of principles and moral standards I live by. Not because I fear god, almost unrelated to religion. I do also believe in 'god' whatever that may be.

I was raised catholic so I pray through jesus. I dont know or think it really matters who you are praying to/through as long as they know and recognize you. It may help to pray to the same name everytime; IDK. But my system isn't broken yet so why fix it?

Your own religion is fine; as long as you dont make up a new god or claim to be said god on some cult shit
 
Oh no you can be your own god. Totally fair. You should be running your own ship; not trying to interpret ancient text, twist the information as needed to justify your behavior and continuing along chastising others and shoving god down there throat when you wouldn't recognize him from your meth dealer. (I really don't like 'false' christians. Which are the vast majority IMO) at least statewide.

In fact if you ever get it figured out let me know the rules I am always interested in peoples philosophy.
 
Not to be nitpicky, just so you know, they're called tithes, not tidings, is the manner in which you used that, I think.

Yeah I mean, life is incredibly complex, I have my own thoughts on the matter and the scope of the universe, but I don't necessarily feel the need to force that on anyone. Do I truly think I myself know objectively the nature of existence? Please.
 
^ You are correct and I spelled it with a th and the spell check stopped me so i went with the one it allowed. Tithings no. Tithes. Ok got it lol. (feel free to be as nitpicky as you want, I don't like being wrong...the more times on the same thing the worse it is)

I really should know my family was paying them at one point. I may or may not have swayed them on that one. May have just been a matter of finances. (def not rich).

100% on that last sentence. If I knew that why would I need 'faith'. No idea just like the rest of us. I have dipped to the otherside a few times and sorry to report nothing. Same as falling asleep.

Iceroute - Having to work hard on yourself is the corner stone of most good religions. Sounds like your off to a fine start. Clue me in if you want. Im not gunna pretend im gunna stop believing what I believe..... but that does not mean whatever you are doing does not line up with my beliefs and again I do like to hear different life philosophies.

Rules, Guidelines, Principles, Standards, rule of thumb-- All good things to have for yourself, whatever applies works.
 
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Christianity is too basic for me and lacks imagination. I've met some really nice Christians over the years but - and I'm really sorry to have to say this - they come across as lobotomized human beings, afraid to think outside of proscribed strictures.

I'm far more interested in the untapped biological potential of my mind and body. If I had to play by the rules of Christianity, I would feel claustrophobic.

If Christianity is getting you through tough times and you are a better person than you used to be because of it, then all the power to you. On a systems level, I think it harkens back to a bye-gone era that we cannot afford to slip back into. The future requires novel solutions and unfettered imaginations.

Jesus though is a very benevolent energy and I am cool with him. That doesn't mean I believe in the Bible or what most Christians are saying.
 
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Foreigner said:
I've met some really nice Christians over the years but - and I'm really sorry to have to say this - they come across as lobotomized human beings
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Thank you for your opinions, Brother Foreigner. So many are afraid to speak the truth, and here you have honored us.

Perhaps I should acquaint you with Le Monsieur Decartes? He might be adequate to have some influence on your opinion.

You are not ready to face in debate the likes of Thomas Aquinas or (noted Christian) Sir Charles Darwin.
 
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MedicinalUser247 said:
Depends on the state of mind. There's all sorts of theories about thought.
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Where did the singularity come from? The one the big bang "came from".
If it's just a set of rules which made the universe inevitable, then, before time and space, what made those rules?
Why is there anything?
 
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