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Opioids China White

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I wanted to see what people knew about this substance. What I am referring to is the designer drug that contains fentanyl. I am astonished by how little is on the internet about this particular drug. Ive used it periodically throughout the last few months. Its referred to as simply China by most people I know and has passed pills as an opiod of choice around north west Ohio. Opana got popular for a few months but has become extinct as of late. Anyone else experiment with this? My final question pertains to suboxone. Ive taken suboxone for the last week - week and a half. Im a fairly large gentlemen. Ive skipped a day or so out of the week and stayed around 2mg per day. Ive used it recreationally and not to really curb withdrawals. Im considering getting some China tomorrow, it will be around 36-38 hours since I took 2mg of suboxone. Will I get the full effect? Is it worth the purchase?
 
i have no idea what drug your talking about and i doubt anyone else will either china white where i live is heroin... white powder heroin
 
You have to list the drug itself. You can't use local names. What it is known on the street as in one place it is under another name somewhere else. It's also against the rules on Bluelight because of this.

Are you just talking about fentynl? Are there other opiate composed in it?
 
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Ok let me be a little more clearer on what this is. Like I said its a designer drug known as china white, or alpha-methylfentanyl. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphamethylfentanyl

I've seen a lot of people convinced that it does not exsist and that anything called fentanyl sold as china white is heroine, but I am 99% positive that what I am getting is a designer drug with fentanyl.

My biggest curiosity at the moment pertains to whether my suboxone use that I listed will greatly impact my high if I buy sometime. I've also consider just buying a perc 30. I haven't used any opioids in the past few weeks so my tolerance is not that high. When I do use them they are usually a week or two at a time tops, so my tolerance has never been much high than what I've started with.
 
alpha-methyl-fentanyl = "China White". One of if not the first designer drug sold as Heroin in the late '70s. From what I remember it was a regional phenomenon in the late '70s-mid 80s; stamp bag identification during OD crises over the last decade generally list Fentanyl Hcl as a primary ingredient (clandestine Fentanyl for the purpose of selling as Heroin- known because consumer versions are citrate, not Hcl) rather than designer fentanyls. For the purpose of identifying whatever is being sold in your area, there being no FDA for street drugs, it's most likely a marketing tactic given the notoriety of that particular slang term. My guess is it's probably run of the mill Colombian powder heroin since its Ohio. Who knows; strange shit out there.

EDIT: beat me to it.
 
I have wondered whether it is heroine, but there would be no real way for me to find that out easily would there? Why I tend to think its not are for these following reasons. The look of it. I get distinct variations of colors. Much like things such as cannabis I can tell simply by the way it looks likely how good it is. It has come in forms that have more of a brown/tan tent to it, and scaley (much like good cocaine it breaks up in flakes). When the batch is not so good or perhaps even closer to bad, it is almost blue in color, or a turquoise. The mid quality is more white and breaks up quite fine and powdery. My biggest reason and this may be considered as bad of a reason as the first, but is because of the dealer. I grew up with the guy and is my best friends cousin. He has told him that he would never sell him heroine, when he found out Heroine is marketed as china white. What surprises me if no one refers to it as china white, but simply china. I believe that is because they want to separate it from heroine, because oddly enough many will do this, but won't do heroine. Its almost as if fentanyl and this drug is not as (more) potent than heroine and has nearly every quality of it as well.
 
If it varies in color like that then I doubt it's alpha-methyl-fentanyl. Although it would have to be cut due to it's strength and cuts can vary in color, it just seems like heroin to me. I would think that a universal cut would be used if it's from a clandestine laboratory that sends it to someone. It just seems like a marketing scheme to me to get people that normally wouldn't do heroin to do it.

By the way, it's heroin not heroine. Also, for the sake of transparency, 'perc 30's' do not exist, and are just oxycodone IR aka roxicodone. Percocets are pills containing a mixture of oxycodone and acetaminophen, so saying perc whatever is implying that it has both oxycodone and acetaminophen in it, which is not the case with the 30mg pills.
 
Yeah your right. They are typically referred to perc 30's around where I live. I got in the bad habit of saying it, even though I raised the same issue you did. My theory is that the color changed with the mixture and how it is cut. I am not familiar with the process of making china white, but certainly what ever it is have an impact on the color and texture of this designer drug.
 
wiggi said:
I recently had an amazing friend die from "China White" that came from northern Ohio. I would strongly advise against doing any of it OP.
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What your saying does make me think, a problem that is very prevelant with this drug is that fentanyl so powerful that it has to be greatly diluted, but there is no way in telling how diluted it is in this substance at any given time.
 
^ Exactly, it was her drug of choice after Opana ran out. Then she snorted 15mg and overdosed and within days she injected a very small amount and that killed her. I begged her not to use that "china white" shit. When I find out some more info, I will post in the shrine.
 
Yeah that what happened around here. China White can be and often time is crazy strong. I often ask for the 30mg oxycodones, but wind up leaving with this substance. Opana is what got me started using opioids from time to time. Fentanyl is scary, because the withdrawals symptoms are almost instant. I developed them with my first ever use, and after a week or two of continue use they are quite painful and made leaving the house nearly impossible. Unfortunately that is all that is readily available and far more cost effective.
 
I can't say I wouldn't have done the same, but now that you fully realize how dangerous whatever this shit is, please think twice before doing it again.
 
I lost friends from shit from ohio. Years ago there was ultra pure fent that actually came out of a youngstown evidence locker a cop was selling it. Those bin ladens and get high or die tryings. Other than that though i just left pittsburgh. I've been doing east coast dope for years, and theres brown raw shit,usually sucks and makes its way from detroit, theres good powder dope, and theres china white. Without hitting stamp names which i dont need to anyways, if you're getting that good china you'll know it by the look and the size of the bags. Be careful and keep you're ear out. At least you're concerned. At my worst, and this is no bs, i would actively seek out the dope that people were dropping off of. Cause i knew it was good.
Bottom line though if ur strictly worried about if it will interact with suboxone if it gets me off sick than its an opiate if it gets u high it will react with suboxone. Wait 24 hrs after a sub you'll be fine. Really what u need to be worried about is how soon after you do the dope that you take the suboxone, wait 36 hrs for that.
 
This drug interests me alot actually. Why? Because it's so strong and can in theory...be made anywhere.

<It is still considered synthesis discussion to ask people about their experiences manufacturing fentanyl>

Anyway...personally man I think you should get some help. If you need this everyday that's no good. Get on methadone bro.

What I've read..it's a HUGE problem in Estonia =/
 
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If what you are getting is really alphamethylfentanyl, than I highly doubt 2mg of buprenorphine would block its effects.. However, if you are able to use bupe recreationally, it makes me question that the product your being sold as fentanyl really is that, and not just quality Heroin.
 
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If what you are getting is really alphamethylfentanyl, than I highly doubt 2mg of buprenorphine would block its effects.. However, if you are able to use bupe recreationally, it makes me question that the product your being sold as fentanyl really is that, and not just quality Heroin.
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Word that's what I'm thinking. I didn't read that about the sub.

BUT...bupe is odd. It can block ALOT. And I never took feth so I can't really say; but I'd be suspicious.
 
Ive used this in very small doses at a time and like I said for short periods of time. I initially got the bupe to avoid withdrawals. Insomnia is instant with the first use and not sleeping made life pretty miserable. My withdrawals didn't come on as hard as i expected, but the subs gave me a good zip. They also made me happier. I was sleeping well and my work days went smoothly so I took 1/4 each day until i ran out of the 2 I bought. My friend who had become dependent on China white for the last 6 mo. found the 2mg to do nothing but curb withdrawal.
 
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