Chicago: Illicit Fentanyl/Orange Bags

trying to sell 'fentanyl' as fentanyl is like trying to sell 5-MeO-AMT as 5-MeO-AMT, call it LSD and its 100x easier to move, call it what it is and most people give you a blank stare.
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Bejezzus... Dangerous trade. Thanks for the info! :) Always wanted to know... I have never taken heroin, but I have seen a few kids that have bought "opium" that is black tar. Funny when you tell them they got tar.. ." Oh shit this is heroin?" hehehe. Funny "opium" is ok...but H is the devil. Oh, I guess I have taken "opium".. does that count? hehehe.... Damn that stuff burned..and damn did I get sick. hehe So Cali..... never seen anything white.. or in powder, but I am not in the know.

Thankfully.

And if I had been given fentanyl, as opium, I bet I would have not been typing right now.
 
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I dunno, but I'm thinking that there would be a price on these guy's heads, giving out free supposed dope ie: Fentanyl. Wouldn't other gangs take this as a threat to their business and start searching for these fuckers?
 
who knows i dont libe in the staes so just making speculation from all the crap i have read in the N.a. drug forums and the other drugs forums ohh yeh and the clture forimsalot of the americans like to make out its like a fyull on war field out theire
 
wasn't there a post recently about a bunch of fake oc 80's that were actually fentanyl? it seems even more likely that there's a greater deal of fentanyl production going on than we know.
 
^ I definitely agree. I dont think anybody posted the make-up of those fake oxy's though [i.e. dosage]. What other active or inactive chemicals or fillers were present?
 
Diacetylus said:
who knows i dont libe in the staes so just making speculation from all the crap i have read in the N.a. drug forums and the other drugs forums ohh yeh and the clture forimsalot of the americans like to make out its like a fyull on war field out theire
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I'd like to see even one of these posts.
 
^Sure! What, you think I was lying? First of all you can start by reading this thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=232246&highlight=copping

Then you can try typing in the words "drug dealing" in the search function and you should get a few results. I'm not saying it is actually like that over there, was just merely making a conclusion from what I have heard. Actually, from half of the stories I HAVE heard about the drug scene in America, I was under the impression that they were, alot of the time... quite exagerated.
 
Diacetylus said:
I dunno, but I'm thinking that there would be a price on these guy's heads, giving out free supposed dope ie: Fentanyl. Wouldn't other gangs take this as a threat to their business and start searching for these fuckers?
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Yes. Thats WHY they did it. To get new customers, and in result for new customers, they have to pay with blood to protect it. Its nothing new. People die everyday over shit just like this.

It isnt a movie, its reality. Movies cannot even touch reality. People think movies are exaggerated reality, but theres no way any studio can ever show the true horror that ensues everyday in humans lives, it would be too horrific for video.

Documentaries come the closest, in a production sense. For instance go watch the arthouse documentary "Cocaine" about street gangs in south america. Its basically a buncha 16-19 year old kids bragging about how they murder people daily and how they dismember their corpses with chainsaws and all their gritty workings. You dont see shit nearly as hardcore in movies... because movies are make-beleive, whilst this is hardcore reality. Go study serial killers and read their confessions, read the things they did, you wont see that kinda shit in a movie, some of those guys make hannibal seem harmless.

And you be trying to say movies are exaggerated fantasy, but I say movies are toned down reality, and that the actual reality of things is faaaar more disturbing than any movie could hope to portray.
 
Kritik4lM4ss said:
wasn't there a post recently about a bunch of fake oc 80's that were actually fentanyl? it seems even more likely that there's a greater deal of fentanyl production going on than we know.
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also found in chicago...maywood courthouse.
 
Diacetylus said:
^Sure! What, you think I was lying? First of all you can start by reading this thread: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=232246&highlight=copping

Then you can try typing in the words "drug dealing" in the search function and you should get a few results. I'm not saying it is actually like that over there, was just merely making a conclusion from what I have heard. Actually, from half of the stories I HAVE heard about the drug scene in America, I was under the impression that they were, alot of the time... quite exagerated.
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I've read the thread before. Which post or posts make the US drug scene sound like a "fyull on war field"?

If anyone was exaggerating, it was your post.
 
I live in southern California and I have been lucky(?) enough to acquire the green OC80s a couple of times. Definitely a different high. I'm not sure what the fentynal dosage was, but I will say this about them: When snorted the rush blew the real OCs out of the water, hit you way harder way faster, I actually fell over after sniffing what I thought was 40 mgs of oxycodone. That said, the high lasted about half as long. I would buy them again, knowing what they are, but only occasionally. I think I prefer oxycodone to fentynal.
 
Splatt said:
Hmmm, interesting.
It's the other way round for us meth users. Why should heroin be cut.. so its easier to eyeball and not OD? Or did you mean sometihng else
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You may only think it's the other way around 'cuz you are used to getting street speed cut to shit with MSM and really only like a fraction of what real D-methamp should be. Meth is of course gonna be different because it's not like you're gonna overdose from doing a rig of speed as small as a rig of fentanyl relatively... Fentanyl is so potent that if you got more than one shot in a bag, both shots of the fentanyl can end up in the same spoon 'cuz like someone else said, it's like a grain of salt... Pure Crystal Meth freebase is a liquid anyway, ever seen that? %)
 
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The open-air drug markets in Chicago are insane. On the South Side and West Side people sling shit in broad daylight on almost every block. There's huge networks of lookouts, runners, slingers, etc. It's quite an operation, I used to live there and make it out to the west side on occasion. It's like driving through McDonald's to get some food, except you get your smack and you're on your way. The cops don't even tread through the west side.

Oh yeah, the point of my post is that this has been happening again in June '06. My buddy who still lives in Chi said there's been a lot of OD's lately and I think it's the fentanyl being sold as H again.

Peace,
Stoddard
 
BumpyJohnson said:
I'm pretty sure this is incorrect.. I think its just the difference in route of administration..
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Im just guessing this because like patches contain 25ug/hr(2.5mg total), 50ug/hr(5.0mg total), 75ug/hr(7.5mg total), and 100ug/hr(10mg total). The suckers just say they contain like 600ug or up to like 1500ug (Im guessing these are a few of the sucker dosages?). If what Im guessing about the suckers is true then, using the same method of administration for both (oral consumption), you will of course get much more out of the patches. I just dont think theres as much fentanyl in suckers, and when you mention route of administration, suckers would all be downed in one session right? Patches are meant to be worn for 72 hours and actually hold 100 hours worth of the dose if it dispenses correctly.
 
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