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Chicago Heroin v. Please refrain from offing yourself.

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What is your experience with Loperamide? I have kicked a couple times with just loperamide, ibuprofen, cold medicine, allergy medicine, and benedryl. I have had people use the same thing and they claim that it hasnt done anything for them. Me on the other hand, over the counter meds make it possible to get through the first few days. Does anyone else have any tricks or know of any over the counter meds to help kick?
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I've been doing at least 10 bags a day for a few months now and was forced to quit because my people got busted like i was saying. My last bag was like mid night Sunday going into Monday. I was miserable until i found out what happened and had my bro drive me to get some loperamide yesterday. I got a bottle of 96 from Walgreens. (they charge about 4x as much as Walmart) Anyway i initially took about 30 around 5pm yesterday and another 15 or so around 1 am this morning when i woke up. I weeny back to sleep and woke up at 8am feeling actually content. My mouth is super dry that's only complaint. I'd say it works good enough for me.
 
Methadone is a motherfucker.. but nonetheless it's still the thing that keeps me from waking up sick. A couple years ago my doc offered to RX it to me which I wish I would've taken him up on it at the time as it would've saved me so much time and money instead of going to the clinic. It's hard to find a doc, let alone a family physician/general practitioner to RX methadone though. The same doc though got busted in October prescribing oxy's to a bunch of ppl. Apparently the DEA found out he gave 10,000 oxy's to just one patient alone. Unfortunately, the doc committed suicide in February this year. I think the stress just got to him and hurt his pride. He was a cool doc like in the sense that he didn't charge a lot, you could always reach him on his cell phone if you had an emergency, he wouldn't give you useless or overly expensive medicine just because the pharma reps give him bonuses to, etc. Plus, he was lenient with the prescription pad. My mom use to get these blood pressure meds along with Xanax for times that stress made her blood pressure go up and she's had some trouble getting the same meds from other docs since they want to change her meds up to benefit their own pockets... When I showed my dad the news article with the oxy's my dad joked 'Co ten facet jad to na obiad z lyszka?' which translates to 'What, was this dude eating them for dinner with a spoon?' Lol that'd be awesome though if he did..

For me, loperamide def helps when I'm going through WD's. There was at least 2-3 times where I was traveling and had to wait a day or two before I could cop. (Finding dope in a new city is always an adventure lol but it's actually pretty easy in most cities - I've also found it's relatively easy to get RX'd a weak opiate at the ER if you say the right things, act really nice to the nurses, and don't act stupid... i.e. saying your pain is a 9 while you're texting on the phone)
Anyway, Loperamide def helped with the physical wd's IMO but I'd have to take like 100+ mgs worth at least about every 6 hours or so which is like 50-60 pills since each pill is only 2 mgs. There is a bit of debate whether loperamide crosses the blood brain barrier or not. Many say it does but somehow there is a sort of blockade caused by a protein in your brain where it doesn't really affect the central nervous system a whole lot. Loperamide actually use to be scheduled back in the day lol... as a schedule ii nonetheless!! For me personally a combination of loperamide, a couple Xanax footballs or a bar, a lil robo DM, benadryll, sleeping pill at night (if available) and some naproxen would usually get me feelings pretty damn decent. If need be, I'd make a little poppy seed tea although I'd only do that if absolutely necessary as I've found that the effects equal to as much as an OC 60/80 taken orally hence it would just prolong the WD's..

This weekend I'm def going to have fun.. I just checked the electronic payroll portal my company uses and found out my paycheck is going to be almost $500 more than expected. Woot Woot! I'd like to get a jab or two for a change instead of raw so it lasts me a bit longer.. unfortunately, my car won't be fixed for 2 more weeks so idk how I'd even go about getting a jab as all the PCs I have that do deliver don't sell by blow/jab only raw.. It's always something - either I have money and a car, but no time to cop... or I have money and time but no car..
 
Well i pretty much just cold turkeyed painlessly. I don't even care enough to go looking for another connect so i guess its over with unless these people get out soon. I doubt that's happening though because if they aren't out by now that means they charged them all with something.

I already started easing back into a workout yesterday. I did a little back and shoulders. Surprisingly I'm kind of sore from it too.

I'm not one of those people who will do the loperamide debate about it getting you high, but i just kicked like i said virtually painlessly.
 
The other day I was sitting in Walgreens downtown waiting for a prescription and a guy walks in, I immediately know his deal. I thought he was going to buy some points but then I watch as he stuffs box after box of loperamide into his pants. I just watch and he sees me looking at him but I make an expression saying I don't care. He probably lifted about 8 boxes, the ones with 96 pills and then just walks out. I thought it was funny but really, it's a pretty expensive way to kick so it makes sense if you're broke that you're going to have to do it that way. At least even in this country you can get some type of opioid OTC even if it's only good for kicking.
 
i hope that sticks man, cause i quit like every month or three months, and then, shit, I'm getting high again. it's the longer term problem where i find absolutely no point in staying clean...despite everything...i think our brains change after a while, and then we got this fucked up brain chemistry to deal with.

i'm going out of town in two weeks on a family vacation. I hope I stay clean until then, and I hope i don't get a pack to take on the road. I've done that before. Doesn't make for happy wife, and believe me, on vacation, alone with nobody but family and wife and all, is the last place I want her pissed off to high hell at me. But I've been known to do the absolutely most stupid thing possible at the last minute.

Anyway, my point was, I want to hit the library, and get two books out to take on vacation - one called "Memoirs of an Addicted Brain" by Marc Lewis, a neurologist and "former" addict, and the other one called "High Price" by Dr. Carl Hart. The first is apparently stories about this guys addiction and exploits in between explanations of how the addicted brain works, the other one I'm not too sure, I think it's more on the public health side of things. The first I heard about maybe on this site or forum, the second was recommended by a really smart girl I know from college that I recently got in touch with, and flirt with occasionally. Her sister is a clean speedball freak, so she relates to me real well about the addiction part and the struggle. It's nice to talk to a beautiful girl about drugs.

So hopefully, I take a week off, chill the fuck out without any illegal drugs, and actually read a book or two. I haven't actually finished a book for enjoyment in years...

Sorry. This post has not much to do with Chicago's fine heroin scene. Except that I owe it to Chiraq dope that I'm in this position in the first place.

Rock on, junkies !
 
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hey chaucer -
you said downtown? any chance you could be more specific in a general way? I work around state and lake, and still, I'm shocked by all the junkies on the street down there. I mean, I know it's the nexus of Lower Randolph where people live, the Metra at Randolph and Michigan for out of town junkies to roll in, and the green line or whatever other transportation you need to go west and cop. But man, these fiends are everywhere.
I had to drive and make a pick up today, so i pull the company vehicle out of the spot and drive down the alley to Lake St. mind you , this is an alley between Mich and Wabash. There was a doorman taking a break smoking bowls, two junkies shooting up in between dumpsters, and then a drunk homeless guy taking a piss and chugging from a large bottle in a paper bag. All within 30-40' of each other.
And so many kids on corners, with those cardboard signs, all over the place...almost all of them are on dope, I can see it in their faces, and when they got track marks or scabs on their hands or whatever, it's just obvious to people like us...
It's a sad scene. some days it really gets to me...
 
NSB i did a lot of reading in the joint. One book that really still stands out as one of the best I've ever read is called The Beginning And The End by Nahguib Mahfouz. If you like a good story its definitely a good read.

Id like to think this is long term but even if i actually got a decent job and a car and shit i already know it would only be a mater of time before I'm out west cold copping.

My dad owns a small company and his main office is in mt Sinai hospital. I used to live/work with him numerous times and every damn time i am walking across the street. I could be doing great and ill get a craving and instinctively I'm across the street without even thinking about it.
 
Nsb stay strong Man U knw u can slip quickly but it's one day at a time. Trust me I am not one to lecture. And man I am interested in this loperamide... Long week working late and teaching. I sometimes wish I had a stress free job. But concepting big brands and executing photoshoots with good pay ain't bad. And yes the addicts are on the streets everywhere and I totally feel for them struggling to make enough for a bag to get a bit of the sick off... Da bears report to training camp next week so freaking excited!!!!!! Year two of the trestman era and the new defense to compliment the tag team wide receiver crew!!!
 
Anybody ever figure out what happened to chinky? It's been a few months... He still locked up?
 
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havent smoked or shot any coke sense my last post ! "yay" for me ! :) I think Im going to celebrate by shooting a half gram of cocaine today !

Havent had to hustle at all these past 3 weeks. This chick and her boyfirend (who ive ben friends with for years wayy before dope) used to pick me up and buy me 1 bag a day EVERYDAY (365) for about 9 months. I was supposed to leave to bootcamp 4 months ago and hooked them up with my plugs before I left to show appreciation for the 20$ a day they spent on me for the past 300 days. ( do the math :) ). Needless to say I didnt end up leaving for bootcamp that day ( I leave in 2 months for those curious ) so for the past 4 months Ive had to find my own way to get well everyday. I succeed about 6 days a week and CT one of the days. ANYWAYYY the chicks boyfriends in rehab and shes afraid to go out to the "ghetto" alone so shes ben getting me a bag everytime we go out there which is 1-2 times a day. and she ALWAYS has money as she found her parents check book and just cashes a 120$ check everytime we go out there (1-2x a day ben going on for 3 weeks . . again do the math lol) mommy and daddy wont be to happy when they see the bank statement. But her boyfriend comes home in 20 days so I know this wont last forever but im enjoying it while it does. My favorite part is the money I do hustle up is spent on crack lol. Fucked up part is shes PREGNANT ANDD has her boyfriend CONVINCED shes ben clean sense hes left when in reality shes doing 2-3x the amount as she was with him !

My dad gives me 20$ one day per week on the weekend. I usually get him to give me it friday morning. But yesterday he found out i cahed this 200$ bond outta the safe a few months ago so hes super pissed and said no money this weekend. he gives in ALOT tho so hopefully he was just bluffing. its 6am and hes litterly getting out of the shower as we speek so hopefully I can talk him into it before he leaves for work so i can get some early morning rock which sounds soo nice right about now haha. Ill know in 10-15 min ill let yall know how it goes hahaha.
EDIT: FUCKKK HE WASNT BLUFFING GOD DAMITT !

Oh and sunday-monday I was in Indy siging more pappers for the US NAVY so I was outta town with no dope and was sick as FUCK there. i was at about 36 hours and had to wake up at 4am and go to this government facility and sit in a waiting room for 9 HOURS where you couldnt lay down or sleep or anything JUST SIT THERE than I got to do 3-4 hours of paper work after the 9hr wait than a 3 hour ride home so it was 8pm when I got home so I thought "fuck theres no way I can hustle up this late in the day" But thank god ole girl came thru and needed to make a run. I was at like 50 hours by the time I got well which is the longest ive made it in 6 months !

Happy Friday yall lets make it a good one !

-TDM

RANDOM SIDE NOTE: THe worst thing EVER is having to husttle up while sick. I mean I BARLEY get sick like its totaly tolerable im just a pussy and I always husttle up real quick and it is just awful. I couldnt imagine getting REAL sick and having to hustle up. Like having to go panhandle for HOURS sick as fuck or having to look for bottles and cans n shit. I got mad respect for those who do that labor everyday while every cell in there body is SCREAMING for the cure. I couldnt do it.
 
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Dude you have to plan ahead for boot camp dope man. I was like 16 or17 and signed up for this boot camp called Lincolns challenge and the same exact thing happened to me. This girl who lived in the apartment below me who was the girl i used to Fuck upstairs brothers baby mom used to get all her dope through me too.The only difference i was charging her a dub for a regular bag and she was spending literally like at the very least 100 a day. I'd also tell her ihad to charge her one for going so i was like 16 getting 7 or 8 free bags everyday.

Anyway i did the same thing and hooked her up with my connect before i left. Needless to say i was home in about 2 days because i though i could tough out the sickness there. That's when shit got real in my life so just something for you to think about.

I'm going on 5 days clean now guys. I'm a little sore from working out yesterday. I went pretty hard for just starting back. I need to get my chest back. My chest was decent before i started doing dope again and its about half the size now. I didn't sleep good last night but that will pass.

I got a job lead too. My dad just did the phone system at some place that has something to do with raise .com. I guess they are like an Ebay for just gift cards. He told him i have a felony and just got out of the joint and i guess the guy said he'd check me out. So here's hoping. I'm going to call today.
 
Dope Man - that's the exact reason why I got on methadone - I hated waking up in the morning and either trying to make a quick hundo to cop before I started my like post-college career or once I started working I never had time to cop in the morn so I had to either wait till my people dropped it off to me around 10-11 am or I could take a lunch break... Man sounds like a great couple though.. I feel really bad for the kid. I know a girl who's in a similar situation though - she's living with her bf in her bf's mom's basement.. neither has a job, neither finished high school, and now she's pregnant... it's fucked up.

Hope everything works out for you in the Navy. I was considering joining the army after college but it would've been like an office/administrative job - basically it was like an overseas clerk type of position doing inventory control, ordering supplies, etc. It paid pretty decent but I don't think I have the discipline to be in the military. I've heard a lot of good about the military though. One of my closest friends is an attorney and he did ROTC in school and was in the army for a little bit. I think he ended up as high as major or something before having an honorable discharge. Anyway, when he retires the military will pay him around $70k a year.


Alas the weekend is just about here and shortly an a fire 8ball will be delivered to me. = ) I wish I had a good hookup for blows as I'd much rather buy like 3-4 jabs since it would last much longer and be cheaper. I'd like to get some coke too but it'd be kind of a hassle as I can only get hard from a PC but I prefer soft. I was stuck at home last weekend so I think I'm going to go to Lake Geneva and hang out with my chick. Do some dope, smoke a lil weed, sip some margaritas, eat some seafood, chill on the beach... this weekend will be fun = )
 
^ hell yeah its the weekend, its nice out, payday and all that. Kicked ass at work this week and now time to sit back and enjoy.
Hope y'all are safe and happy and higher than an antennae.
EnVee / NV
 
Ya I feel like a piece of shit getting a pregnant girl dope everyday and crack a few times a week but shed obviously get it with or without me and shes very pretty and has almost ben raped by dope dealers in the past so I keep her safe and get her the best shit for her money. IDK im probably just convincing myself im not a teriable person for it but I know 95% percent of junkies would do the same thing in my shoes. We dont really care where our "get right for the day" comes from all thats important is that we get it. She has the same size habbit I used to have (5-7bags a day average). So I know how sick shell get if she dosnt have it. Gatta have a shot every 12 hours. Only difference is I would get my 5-7 bags for free for making runs all day.

As for the Navy im ready as can be. Ganna give it all up about 2 weeks before I ship. I wont be sick but I know ill have PAWS to deal with which shouldn't be to bad considering how busy ill be and the large amounts of exercise. Im in great physical shape so theres that. The main reason I joined the Navy is because I was just getting into daily dope use. I was IV'ing dope for 2 years without ever getting addicted then I got the good plugs and everyone was breakin me off for pickin up for them and my middle-maning just grew and grew and obviously so did my habbit. Hard to turn down free bags. So the Navy is ganna get me away from this town which is just holding me down so hard. Ill still probly fuck around while im in the navy but once I break this everyday habbit Im NEVER ganna let it get to that again (im sure im the first one to say that lol).

Today was the most fun I had in a long time. got like 3 bags of dope throughout the day and just got back from a friends where there were 5 of us and we all had a nice personal pile of crack. goood times. crack is much more fun as a social thing.
 
So glad I haven't been in Dope Mans position for years. I'd rather keep chipping like I was for the time I was on methadone.
 
What's it like out west nowadays? Is it like it was a few years ago where every block had bags or had it died down a little bit? I'm contemplating heading out there but i haven't been since like 2012. Any areas to avoid? I personally used to prefer south of 290 and never really went by the ave. I'm just bored as shit lately.
 
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Ya I feel like a piece of shit getting a pregnant girl dope everyday and crack a few times a week but shed obviously get it with or without me and shes very pretty and has almost ben raped by dope dealers in the past so I keep her safe and get her the best shit for her money. IDK im probably just convincing myself im not a teriable person for it but I know 95% percent of junkies would do the same thing in my shoes. We dont really care where our "get right for the day" comes from all thats important is that we get it. She has the same size habbit I used to have (5-7bags a day average). So I know how sick shell get if she dosnt have it. Gatta have a shot every 12 hours. Only difference is I would get my 5-7 bags for free for making runs all day. He's got an open court case for hos 3rd possession charge too, so he's been saying that he's going into a program for that but he's yet to do so.

As for the Navy im ready as can be. Ganna give it all up about 2 weeks before I ship. I wont be sick but I know ill have PAWS to deal with which shouldn't be to bad considering how busy ill be and the large amounts of exercise. Im in great physical shape so theres that. The main reason I joined the Navy is because I was just getting into daily dope use. I was IV'ing dope for 2 years without ever getting addicted then I got the good plugs and everyone was breakin me off for pickin up for them and my middle-maning just grew and grew and obviously so did my habbit. Hard to turn down free bags. So the Navy is ganna get me away from this town which is just holding me down so hard. Ill still probly fuck around while im in the navy but once I break this everyday habbit Im NEVER ganna let it get to that again (im sure im the first one to say that lol).

Today was the most fun I had in a long time. got like 3 bags of dope throughout the day and just got back from a friends where there were 5 of us and we all had a nice personal pile of crack. goood times. crack is much more fun as a social thing.
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Damn man. I just posted in the general heroin thread a few weeks ago about how this girl was wandering around my neighborhood and asked me for a cigarette when she saw me smoking, so I have her one and when she fully turned around I realized she was preggerz. When she started talking to me I could tell she was high on dope, and she followed me into a pizza place and she kept asking the price of everything over and over, and what's in this and that, and if they made all these things that didn't even exist, and I guarantee she didn't have any money to buy anything.

On the topic of the navy, my buddy went there with a habit and hot through boot camp just fine, although he didn't sleep at all for a few weeks until he got his wisdom teeth removed and they gave him vikes. He said that he was waiting for the day that they called him in to tell him that he had failed his drug test but that day never came.

He was eventually discharged when they noticed he lost a lot of weight since he had been using again (he was in Seattle and they have an open air market in an area know as 'the blade' where he was copping) and he said that when he went to his hearing that he had to use a safety pin to hold his pants up since he had gotten so skinny. He ended up staying there for a while until a friend of ours bought him a plane ticket back to NY, and this was back in 2011 and he's still on that dope run not missing more than a day or two of using in all of that time. He did say that the people in Seattle were very friendly, and he would literally strike up some conversation with strangers and when he told them he was homeless they would put him up for the night.

Now he's really at the end of the road so idk how long he can keep this up. He got evicted a few weeks ago and has been staying with a using buddy, but neither of them have a car, he doesn't have a job, and his girl that he's been using with for a few years moved back in with her parents after the eviction so he literally has nothing. I really wonder how he hustled up the money plus a rode to cop, especially after losing all of his phone contacts a few weeks ago.
 
hey istern, i tried to give you some advice, but clear your inbox. basically from what i've seen, the WS is still open for business, but there's cops out there everywhere. like flies on shit. so get in and get out. don't hang around. if you know old spots, go check them out. i'm sure you know what to look for. those corner boys all seem worried as shit these days, they don't really call out to cars like they used to, they will question and hassle you since they won't know you, and you don't want to spend extra time out there.

i always felt it was much safer going early in the morning. and the guys working were more professional. but i guess that depends on the spot and on luck.

be careful dude. just cause you're bored - man, just be careful....
 
Sorry about the inbox. I've been trying to become a bluelighter. I'm almost there.

I agree tho i always used to go early in the morning while i was at the methadone clinic. It seems like in the morning they are there for one reason only. Do you think I'd be better off driving or taking the train. If its the train it wouldn't be as early but i can say I'm out there for a job or methadone but if i drive i could potentially be way quicker but also risk way more cuz my license is suspended and I'm on parole
 
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