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itchy - yeah DMT occurs naturally in the barks/roots of several barks/trees and is rather easy to extract - meaning you don't need an extensive lab setup. there's a lot of good info on it in TIHKAL by Alexander Shulgin and a pretty decent section on erowid as well. I mean you might love it and it could be something you rave about like Joe Rogan after trying it... everyone's different... Also, Absinthe kind of tastes like Jagermeister or another herbal liquor like Bison Vodka but with the strength of Bacardi 151 but you don't really drink it in shots. I guess you could but it's too strong IMO - it's like 130-140 proof.. there's quite a few good mixes with it. Absinthe has an allure because it containers wormwood and thujone which are rumored to make you have a sort of lucid hallucinations. Of course it's mostly hype - you don't really trip off absinthe. However, especially in comparison to other spirits, absinthe does seem to be quite a bit more mind expanding, rather euphoric, makes for better conversation, sex isn't as sloppy, and it seems to be

goodtymes - yeah that's right where I'm at in terms of bud and tripping/rolling and have been for some time. When I want to get high the first thing that comes to mind is dope of course... The insurance agency i work part time for is full of stoners including the owner. I typically only works a couple evenings a week and on saturdays but of course just about every saturday everyones blazing in there and once in a blue moon ill take a rip or two and of course within 10 mins im all noided out and i regret smoking... although i have it pretty damn good, it still makes me think of things i shouldve done differently with my life. Its weird though because if i happen to smoke again later that day or the next day that paranoia goes away and it's more enjoyable... I use to smoke daily from high school till college but now it's a very rare thing for me. Plus my full time job technically could drug test me as they do have it in their handbook although I have yet to see anyone except the blue collar guys (mainly the truck drivers/plant workers) get tested. I have phases where I'll like want to change it up... lately it's been tripping or rolling (i think more so rolling since i'm worried it'd give me the kind of mind fuck that weed does and make me regret it), a few months ago it was doing some good soft...

Yeah... you'll see some crazy shit in the hood that you won't see anywhere else.. I remember one time I was waiting on one of my PCs (see excuses written above) and there's like this POS cadillac that pulls in front of me and my friend... car full of ghetto ass crackheads.. and like they get out one by one i think there were like 4 in just the back seat. and they've all like gone in some house. the last guy to leave is trying to get out putting his hands first and like crawling out... we see him and it's this like tall old dude that has no shirt, big ass beard and dreadlocks, and he starts staring at us. hes motionless just like looking like he's confused or he's tripping idk.. his eyes fucking redder than anything i've seen - he might've been on pcp or some crazy shit actually now that i think of it.. and suddenly his shorts fall off and he doesn't pay no mind.. so there's this tall skinny crackhead staring at us his black dick hanging out eyes all bloodshoot probably and we didn't know wtf to do. i'm dying of laughter and my friend who is kind of new to copping, and hence the hood, is like scared for her life and she's just like go go go lolol omg ill never forget that
 
^^^LMFAO! @ ALL OF THE ABOVE Trancespott!!! Especially the last paragraph!!HAHAHAHA!!! and HA!I can totally imagine all of that!! HILARIOUS!! Thanks for the info in the first paragraph.
Weed makes me feel exactly like that...I just start thinking WTF am I doing/done with my life!! OMG!
PCP is absolutely the worst drug I have EVER done in my life! I remember there was a Star Trek marathon on one Sunday so I figured I would just chill out and watch some Star Trek...whatever. So I got two wickies(wet parsley joints[guy didn't have any weed, so I settled for the next "best" thing out of curiosity])I smoked one...nothing! I'm like I got bunked, so I smoked the second one right after...two mins. later I was so fucked up in the most horrible way that you can imagine! Just an array of different emotions from one minute to the next with vivid auditory/visual hallucinations and this went on for fucking hours!!! Would not recomend that stuff to anybody and I'm all for do what you want with your body but please, don't do this shit it's pure poison to the soul.
....AAAANND Back to the dude loosing his shorts staring all stupid...HAHAHAHA!...HA!
Later! HA!
 
@trancespottingpl & @nitevision re: 4th of July in Chicago....

Agreed, it's absolute craziness in terms of M80s going off every 5 seconds, and it doesn't matter what neighborhood you're in. Growing up on the Northside, about 30% of my neighbors were cops and (surprise!) they had the best, loudest and most insane fireworks imaginable since they all just took whatever had been confiscated over the prior few weeks.

On the other hand, the cops are so busy dealing with the 4th of July madness that it might actually be a good cover to head to an area that might normally be super hot. I'd assume they'd rather go after dudes throwing dynamite at cars than a white kid walking around a dope hood. Then again, who knows...
 
Here's a question about users on here who use popular chat apps like AIM and other mainstream chat programs: aren't you worried about security and such? I only access BL via the TorBrowser, use my Hushmail address and would never chat using a mainstream program. When asked if I have chat I suggest using TorChat (Mac Download) or a similar encrypted/anon but no one seems to want to do this. If anyone is interested, they can read more about TorChat here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TorChat and Tor browsing in general here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)

I know this isn't directly related to this thread but since I've been lurking here and getting to 'know' posters and have more recently started posting myself and I'd hate to see someone get in trouble. And you don't have to be a computer nerd to use this stuff...it's just as easy as DLing something like Firefox or MSN Chat.

Just looking out for my Chicago people, even if we'll never meet.

Stay safe on the streets and online.
 
^^Good looking out BIC. Regarding that Tor prgram, I myself usually always talk in PAST tense, in other words I very seldom say what I'm GOING to do, just about shit I've DONE. I never mention other BLrs to other BLrs...So if whoever gives a shit about what I'm going to hypothetically, alledgedly GOING to do and preemptivelly wasting their time waiting for me TO do something than they deserve a fucking prize.
Be safe with those fireworks while catching a nod.
 
trancespottingpl said:
Xanax will help chill you out but won't kill a trip. One of my friends ate 2 10 strips on Halloween a couple years back and we had to like escort him back to his bedroom bc he was actin' a fool, asking girls if they wanted a 'hot beef injection' at the party, and then started crying when this chick he was in love with didn't show up... But yeah we gave him quite a bit of xanax but it didn't really do much... i'd suspect that seqoruil would kill a bad trip faster than xanax (or another anti-psychotic). In the hospital if you're freaking out theyll hit you with a shot of thorzine, so I'd assume some kind of med that's more easily accessible might be good to have laying around in case of a bad trip...
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Only time I ever ended up in the hospital while I just so happened to be tripping balls (long story), all they did was load me up on benzos to wait for my heartrate to slow back down and keep a close eye on me cause I kept trying to get out of there.
 
BackInChicago! said:
Here's a question about users on here who use popular chat apps like AIM and other mainstream chat programs: aren't you worried about security and such? I only access BL via the TorBrowser, use my Hushmail address and would never chat using a mainstream program. When asked if I have chat I suggest using TorChat (Mac Download) or a similar encrypted/anon but no one seems to want to do this. If anyone is interested, they can read more about TorChat here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TorChat and Tor browsing in general here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)

I know this isn't directly related to this thread but since I've been lurking here and getting to 'know' posters and have more recently started posting myself and I'd hate to see someone get in trouble. And you don't have to be a computer nerd to use this stuff...it's just as easy as DLing something like Firefox or MSN Chat.

Just looking out for my Chicago people, even if we'll never meet.

Stay safe on the streets and online.
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If you're worried about security just be careful about what you say. If LE were hear about you going out and copping enough for your own head then I assure you they have much more important shit to waste their time on. If someone was a big time dealer I hope they're smart enough to know not to give out too much incriminating info... That's why dudes use burner phones or tell you not to say shit and they call you back from a different number
 
@ BIC, I don't worry very much about any LE seeing what I write. Maybe I should, but I just see it like Reckless said, they most likely have better, more important shit to do than take the time to figure the exact identity of a BLer and bust them for talking about copping and using. But I wouldn't put it past them to try to lure someone into helping them get a connect or try and get someone to sell them something. That's why it's important not to source on here.
I went to cop today and the spot my PC meets me at was crawling with 5-0. We started using this spot because it's out of the "hot zone" and in a nicer part of the city. But last time I went I actually told dude that the spot was going to start getting hot because I saw 3 empty bags and a used rig in the gutter next to the curb. Because it's a low key and somewhat safe area, people have more confidence and sit there and do there shit but obviously people see what goes on and all it takes is a couple of complaints and someone getting pissed off cuz there are dirty needles in the street, which let's be honest, even though we are all either recovering users or presently using, any one of us would be pissed if there was a dirty rig in the gutter near our house. I've never seen a cop over there since we've been meeting there, today every couple minutes a marked or unmarked would drive past slow and look at me sitting there, so I called dude and we had to meet somewhere else. Right when I left after copping, the on ramp is less than a block away, so I hop on the eway, get about 50 yards and I see a narc car flying up the shoulder with it's lights on. My heart literally sank and I couldn't breath, so I start moving into the next lane left. And another lane left. Then he slows down and he's still on the shoulder about 25 yards behind me and 3 lanes to my right. Because of traffic, we're only going 10mph. So this goes on for a mile. Then he gets off the shoulder into the first lane, then to the second lane, lights still on. I couldn't breath and my foot was shaking like fucking crazy I could barely push the gas peddle. So now he's in the lane next to me about 15-20 yards behind me. So after about 3 miles like that, he suddenly rushes back to the shoulder and fucking guns it and takes off. I couldn't believe it. I thought I was spending 4th of July at 26th and California. It was such a good feeling when he took off but at the same time I still could not stop shaking. It was such an intense anxiety feeling with that uncontrolable shaking. So, be careful copping this week and weekend everyone. Time to stop fighting the nod and devour a Klondike bar.
 
Itchy - that sounds freaking crazy!! lol @ parsley though hahaha... I do remember one time in college we smoked some weak ass mids and although it looked like normal mexican brick bud it gave effects that definetley weren't just low THC weed. Me and few friends shared a blunt and we all agreed it was different and something wasn't right and of course thought it might be PCP. However, I don't think it was because the effects weren't as profound as the ones you explained. I mean we felt like a weird body high that was really strong but not hallucinations as far as I remember. From what you said it doesn't sound like PCP though since your experience sounds much more intense. Perhaps it was some kind of nasty fertilizer they treated the bud with or if it was in fact PCP then maybe it just a small dose. PCP is one of those drugs I don't ever want to try. Same with meth and like 99% of the research chemicals.. I've done pharmaceutical meth aka desoxyn but that's not nearly the same thing as street meth.

4th of July isn't risky just bc of LE but some other reasons. Most of the legit d boys will probably just want to serve their custies and be on for a few hours to make some money. I doubt that the runners/dboys/street security/etc. will be out for very long - probably just morning rush to afternoon rush to make some quick cash and then they'll say fuck it and party. That's what I'd do lol. Especially since this is the kind of weekend where people just chill, drink beers, and BBQ. This means though that there will be more people with fake shit/empty bags trying to get one over on white ppl. They'll typically be near the 'spot' after the legit homies have gone in for the day... I tried to cop at my usual spot one time like on some kind of holiday and ended up getting ripped off on $50 - first time this ever happened to me on the west side.. I've gotten to the point now where if I don't recognize them from previous times I copped, I can at least read their body language and shit. Granted this was late at night too which that time is a crappy time anyway to cop off a random corner or spot in the hood. But yeah, in addition to cops, d boys and the people on the block probably working shorter hours, more people being outside in general and hence more scam artists - this isn't a good weekend to cop unless you absolutely have to. This seems to be kind of a trend I've noticed on a lot of holidays.

I was curious - has anyone had any black tar around either - either currently, recently, or in the past??? I have yet to see tar around here. When I lived in Cinci most of the d was kind of like the raw here. Typically, we'd get raw that was in rock form and was usually a light tan, light grey all the way to dark brown. Oftentimes the better stuff would have a mix of colors like dark brown d with white specks (the homies called it cookies and cream) or light tan rocks with like white swirls, etc. Usually the stuff that was very difficult to break up tended to be good quality whereas the stuff that dissolved very easily with just water or whos rocks broke apart with little effort - as a rule of thumb. I had tar a couple times and loved it because it gave a better rush as compared to the regular stuff. I have yet to see any around here and I wish I could find some. You'd think with the large Mexican population it'd be rather common.

One time I got pulled over by the cops kind of near the Austin exit. I always keep an extra $20 $30 or so in the glove box and that way I can tell the cop that I haven't copped yet if I get pulled over on the WS... I read that actually on BL somewhere and it definetely got me out of a bind that time. TThey def knew why I was there and right away asked 'where's the dope?' They searched the car but not too hard and seem to believe me that I hadn't copped yet as probbaly cops expect a user to spend every last dollar.. Kinda weird bc they didn't search me though..
 
^^@tspott...OH NO...It wasn't anything related to weed, the whole joint was wet and was packaged like a wooden toothpick sealed in plastic wrap and smelled like some kind of chemical smell I never smelled before and the smell stuck to your clothes and made my fingers smell like it too...to a point where after a couple of days and showers, I could still smell it on my fingertips. The guy told me it was parsley dipped in embalming fluid which he said was liquid PCP. Whatever it was it was nasty all the way around...and that's an understatement. Yeah, never tried meth either, nor ever had the desire to.
Agree with you about it being kind of a bad weekend to cop. I've noticed there is a trend of natives fucking with people in the hood on holidays cause alot of them are liquided and more boysterous and hanging out with their boys and willing to take a chance to make a quick buck.
Nope, never even seen tar...ever.
That point about having extra $ on your person can not be stressed enough...especially in my situation and copping on foot. Otherwise, it's like "Uh, yeah sir, I came out here with no money, didn't get anything and planning on walking home..." sounds believable. Always have extra $ on you. The scenario you described happened to me more times than I could count and I think the only reason they let me go each time is cause of the excuse " That I didn't get anything yet...but I'll gladly be leaving right now sir"
Later.
Have a safe weekend folks.
 
10 years ago, or maybe 11-12, I had a dealer (mostly coke) but the H he got, just like the coke, was all straight from mexicans - and it was all tar. he called it chicle when it was tar and chocolate when it was cut with lactose (sorry, don't know how to put the accent on the last "e" but with a spanish accent). We would party and he got the tar all the time, delivered, or we would go and pick it up, all northside - from Logan Sq to Rogers Park. he'd cut it with lactose in a coffee grinder - very common practice from what I've read. Only good for sniffing.


I also know that I've been offered mexican tar through other connects over the past year - never got, never saw it, but I believe it.
Older junkies I know have also told me about copping in Pilsen before switching to the WS - and referred to it as mexican mud.

Cannot for the life of me understand why there's not more tar sold through private connects or in hispanic neighborhoods, especially since mexican cartels seem to supply the majority of drugs, and Chicago seems to be well understood as a distribution hub for the midwest. unless it's easier to move more weight in smaller packages of powder, and the tar all gets sold closer to home...still does not make much sense.

I've always wanted to ask the mexican ice cream guys for chicle or chocolate when they are around...but never have. It's not like I need dope being more available or easier to get closer to home. I think I want to keep it that way...have to put some effort into it, and hopefully just stay straight most of the time.

And as far as the weekend...idk, I always considered early morning the best time to cop off the street anyway. Like 6am - 8am. And certainly daylight in general. I like meeting my guy during rush hour, cause everyone's driving around. It just feels safer, whether it is or not...
 
Itchy, what you had was called wicky stick or sherm, which is anything from parsley, a cigarette, and even sometimes a joint dipped in embalming fluid. But it's not pcp. PCP is a entirely different chemical all together. But I agree, wicky is fucking nasty. I never understood people who liked it. When I was in high school, we used to be able to get pcp at certain tips just like rocks and blows. It's not around like that anymore though. It would come in sawbuck foils and it was mint leaves soaked in it. Ot also came in powder form (angel dust) but I loved pcp, it made you feel invincible. It had a crazy euphoric energetic feeling with a slight hallucinating effect. One time I was at a bowling alley and I could not for the life of me sit in my chair. I kept sliding off onto the floor and I couldn't stop laughing.
 
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BackInChicago! said:
Here's a question about users on here who use popular chat apps like AIM and other mainstream chat programs: aren't you worried about security and such? I only access BL via the TorBrowser, use my Hushmail address and would never chat using a mainstream program. When asked if I have chat I suggest using TorChat (Mac Download) or a similar encrypted/anon but no one seems to want to do this. If anyone is interested, they can read more about TorChat here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TorChat and Tor browsing in general here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)

I know this isn't directly related to this thread but since I've been lurking here and getting to 'know' posters and have more recently started posting myself and I'd hate to see someone get in trouble. And you don't have to be a computer nerd to use this stuff...it's just as easy as DLing something like Firefox or MSN Chat.

Just looking out for my Chicago people, even if we'll never meet.

Stay safe on the streets and online.
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that fcking guy thats been banned fcking tried iming me... wtf is that shit???
 
I don't know the true percentage but it's like 90% of the H we get in Chicago is from Mexico. I don't know if it's manufactured there but it crosses the boarder there via the Sinaloa cartel. That's the cartel that recently had there head honcho get arrested after being on the most wanted list for years. His nick name was "El Chapo". Not sure of his real name. But there was a big news story about it a few months ago and they showed shots of Chicago while they talked about him being the main supplier of H in Chi. So I guess it's really all about which cartel is running the show in your city and whatever style H that cartel moves whether it be #4 powder or tar. I'm sure there's tar around in some suburbs and southern Illinois, but if you're buying on the streets of Chi and surrounding areas its gonna be mostlypowder because thats what gets shipped here in mass quantities. There was a story on the internet a while back that said how a lot of the gangs that fight over drug turf are selling the same product because it all comes from mostly the same source and is delivered to wholesalers who distribute to the gangs. It also had an interview with an ex-drug boss from the 4CH that explained how the raw product is sometimes cut and rerocked and then resold as raw.
 
@123, Yeah, then that's what that garbage was...sherm...shit...whatever.I guess I never had PCP then. The guy told me it was PCP. It must be real toxic though, cause this guy in the neighborhood, his brother made that shit his drug of choice and that guy was severely brain damaged from that shit. Like those ppl you see on COPS that have been huffing paint majority of their lives. Fucking never again...remember that miserable experience like it was yesterday...ugghhh!! I thought I would never come down off of that shit. Every time I thought I was coming down, all of a sudden I would start peaking...despair-euphoria...for hours like that! My girl trying to talk me down.
Yeah, El Chapo("shorty") Guzman was a big fucking player in Chicago.
Off subject. Has anybody ever had bags from the same batch(let's say a jab) and they all look the same but differ in quality so much...Like the bag I did earlier hardly did shit, now the bag I did now, was like a fucking concusion! LOL! Maybe wasn't sifted right or something? Hmm...never had that before they are either all shit or all flame.
Eh...whatever...just rambling.
Later ppl.
 
Goody - that's exactly what I was talking about when I was talking about the mexican supply. I read all the same info, the same stuff was on the Nat Geo show, same stuff in the Reader articles, etc. Same supply chain that supposedly runs up to Detroit for soft, I don't know about the H. And the local distributors were all Latin Kings from Pilsen that flipped and testified against Chapo's son, who is currently in the Fed downtown, or was, or something like that.

And the Peruvian guy I dealt with 10-14 yrs ago (he's dead now, from an H od) got his soft and tar from LK suppliers - lower level, sure, but it was either delivered to the door, or the soft was picked up from Dollar store or cell phone store shops (either covers or also money laundering fronts) on the northside and the tar came from the Logan Square area.
Sure this was over 10 yrs ago, but I bet not much has changed - those cartels had a foothold and just expanded.

I've heard the powder that the mexicans move is mostly Columbian product, just like the white - the mexicans are primarily distributors, not producers, except for the tar, they make the tar.
So maybe Sinoloa doesn't make tar, they just move powder...I don't know, this is all conjecture, but I know my guy has access to ozs of tar 10 yrs ago, and I was told someone had access to ozs of mexican tar last fall, so it seems like the product is in the city, it's just not on the street.

Anyway, I'm just talking shit about something I have no definitive proof one way or the other...means nothing really.

And itchy, I can't say I've really noticed the difference bag to bag from one purchase, like you're talking about, but I know that over the course of 2-3 days my tolerance will shoot up so fast that I can start with a half sawbuck and get nice the first day, but a day later i already need 2, then 3 to get to the same place. 2 days in a row and I'm in a mental funk for a week, if not feeling some kind of physical symptoms, be it just a runny nose or achy legs, lethargy, etc.
 
Hey NSB, yeah, perhaps it's the tolerance thing...cause right before my buddy introduced me to this guy, I was hitting it kind of hard... To a point of ODing on that train platform so I'm sure my tol. was kind of up there.
As for the tar you guys are talking about, I can't even chime in on that, exept from what I heard on here that tar is more common on the west coast...
I fn dread that "mental funk" more than the actual physical WDs. Yeah, runny nose and runny eyes piss me off real bad for some reason, another thing I hate is when I feel like my skin hurts(like a flu) and I have to shave...horrible.
Later.
 
The junky blog is great been reading it for a couple hours and looking back at this thread. Feel confident that my vacation to Chicago will not be leaving me sick thanks all for the wonderful info
Goodnight.
The week after the 4th should be a good time and the heat will have calmed down right? Any more advice. For I am a pretty helpless junk right now and will be on arrival. If not sick. Thanks
 
Trainspotting... You talking about dope this like? It's the last gram I got before getting off methadone. Haven't done any opiates in over a month.











 
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