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chemically inducing sleep after methylamphetamine use

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beeblebrox

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I'm hoping this doesn't violate the section of the guidlines relating to self-serving posting, my reasoning being that this may be of interest to other methylamphetamine users.
I personally suffer from insomnia, and have done so for around 5 years, predating any drug use. In the past, my use of meth has obviously exacerbated the traditional effects of insomnia, to the extent where i cannot sleep for around 3 days after my initial use. The issue for me is not the duration of sleep, but actually falling into it. This is something that has led to situations of extreme sleep deprivation and borderline psychosis. (hallucinations, and in one instance complete dellusion).
my question then is this:
Is there a sleep aid, prescription, illicit or otherwise, that will knock me out after the traditional full 8-12 hours have passed since the final administration (usually railing) of meth?
I don't understand the full biochem of it all, but i'm looking for something that won't have a negative interaction with the meth, and also something strong enough to actually knock me out for at least 6-8 hours.
it should also be noted that i am in no way a regular meth user. I'm seeking something to have on hand for occasional use, when my body simply desperately needs sleep, and nothing else will help.
cheers,
beeb.
 
benzodiazapines: includes xanax, valium, klonopin, rohypnol, etc.
these should do the trick.
barbituates: these are rarer and not as safe, but should work about as well.
ambien, a benzo-like prescription sleep-aid that may help, but I suspect that it'd be too weak.
ebola
np: biosphere
 
If you want to get really serious try some short acting antipsychotics.
 
I'd recomed valium if you can get it, thats the best thing I've tried. Although all the benzos will work fine.
If you cant lay your hands on any of those, as they are only suposed to be on script, you could try a codine extraction. Just a thought.
 
8-12 hours? Try rohypnol if you are outside the USA, Halcion/Triazolam if you are in the USA. Xanax/Alprazolam would be worth a try too, as would estazolam. The major benefit of the ones I've mentioned are that they are short acting and so you don't wake up feeling completely drained as you do with the longer lasting benzos like valium or klonopin etc. It's not that hard to script these drugs from the doctor but I can't tell you how to do that here!
Harry
 
HARRY: i say 8-12 hours because while i'm normally fairly down after around 5 or 6, i still get that slight warm fuzzy afterglow for around another 2-4, and tend to retain, even revel in really repedative/usually unstimulating activity (such as catching up on overdue essays) for at least another 2 hours or so after that. This is probably due to the fact that
(a) i don't use very frequently
(b) i tend to be generally fairly healthy(excluding periods of sleep deprivation)
hence the comedown doesn't hit me as hard, (and the physical duration is extended)
thanks people, keep them coming if anyone has anything to add :)
 
GHB is a possibility but I wouldnt recomend it, I find that although you can put yourself under with it, it doesnt last that long and ends up making me feel worse, Im not sure why though.
I've also tried matrazapean (sp?) which is a sedative antidepresant, thats quite good.
 
Anti-psychotics that can double as medication to fight manic episodes and serious insomnia:
Risperdal <sp?>
Zyprexa
Seroquel
Specific medication for sleep strong enough to get you to sleep on meth:
Ambien
Sonata
All of the above will work much better than using benzodiazepines.
 
Benzos, as was said...
GHB
Seroquel...damn that shit will knock you OUT.
Benadryl if you absolutely can't get anything else...
Btw, we usually just call it 'meth' around here. ;)
 
Originally posted by SovietContin:

Ambien
Sonata
All of the above will work much better than using benzodiazepines.
I'm not sure about sonata. Ambien might work alright, but sonata seems to be fairly weak. I have trouble falling asleep with it while not even on anything.
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Opiates don't put everyone to sleep (excluding OD's of course...). I find that some (heroin, tramadol which is technically an opioid) do while others (codeine, hydrocodone, oxycodone) don't.
 
Zolpidem hemitartrate is a good moderate strength prescrition sleep drug bro. It helped me when I had insomnia. It's addictive but not overly so.
 
I would say halcion or tradazone.
Tradazone is easy to get prescribed and it will knock you out in the right doses , but you will be groggy for 12 hours after taking the pill so you will be out of it for a couple hours after you wake up.
 
Halcion.
That is all I have to say... .5mg (thats half-uh-milligram) of this shit could knock you out right after you injected a half gram of pure glass... (well, you know what I mean) .. powerfull indeed...
Other benzos willwork too, Klonopin, Valium.. I'd stay away from Xanax unless it's all you have...
Also, GHB works great!
Oir just wait till you have been up 6 days and when the meth wears off - you're asleep!
I TOTALLY disagree with the use of opioids/opiates - they keep many people "drowsy" but awake..
Also, many have had WONDERFULL luck with the OTC sleep aid diphenhydramine (Sominex, etc..)
Or you can become a meth addict and to fall asleep you simply need to inject some meth!
 
Whenever I do speed I always take benzo's to help me get to sleep. This seems to never work. I also suffer from insomnia & the only drugs that seem to help me out are ambien & temazepam. The temazepam is what I reccomend but is often hard to get. They only like to give you a two week supply because it is mainly prescribed to cure short term insomnia. For long term suffers the give you ambien...
 
PhreeX - why stay away from xanax? A couple mg of that shit puts me out no problems after a speed run. Plus its short acting so I dont get a 'hangover' if i cant sleep for 20 hours.
 
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