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Chemical Generation releases E2: 2nd Defence

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Chemical Generation is at the forefront of developing new techniques for the rapid and selective screening of pills and powders. More than ever before, unscrupulous manufacturers and dealers are pushing dangerous substitutes for popular recreational pills and powders. Since the introduction of Marquis reagent based testers, there has been a discernable shift towards manufacturers and dealers trying to fool them.
As part of our ongoing commitment to you, we are pleased to offer you the next generation in pill and powder testing. 'E2: 2nd Defence' is a more discriminating test, that was developed to be used in conjunction with ‘E: a quick and simple test’. It is far more reliable and accurate than any single easy test. Our qualified chemist has spent many hours researching and developing this latest tester, and we are the first in the world to bring it to you. It’s just as easy to use as ‘E: a quick and simple test’, just as fast, and it gives you that added level of confidence that can’t be obtained by using first generation Marquis testers. The test procedure is identical to that which you are already familiar, and should be performed on a separate sample, tested at the same time. It’s quick, easy, very portable and discreet.
More than anyone else, we understand the limitations of the first generation of pill and powder testers. Some chemicals reacted with them to produce similar results to MDMA or Speed, or didn’t react at all, leaving you to guess. That’s why we’ve been working hard behind the scenes to develop further products. Now with E2, you have a much greater level of assurance than with just the first generation Marquis testers alone. In other words, by performing both tests you have a much greater level of confidence in the result, because it's extremely difficult for someone to fool both tests. E2 will positively identify Ketamine and PMA, and you can even tell the difference between MDA and MDMA. In fact for some substances such as Speed, you will get an idea of the strength. And our new plastic packaging is secure, convenient and easy to use.
A word of caution. You should never base your decision on the results of these types of wet chemistry tests alone. Whilst this new product brings you a greater level of assurance, it is still not specific or selective. Only laboratory testing using HPLC, GC or GC/MS or any other reliable analytical method could provide the ultimate level of assurance and proof of content. In the meantime, using both E and E2 will give you the edge in pill and powder testing.
Chemical Generation is looking for worldwide wholesalers and distirbutors who are interested in our range of products. You can contact us at [email protected], or view our new product at www.The-Peak.com.au
Thank you for supporting Chemical Generation, and making ‘E: a quick and simple test’ the number one pill and powder testing product in Australia. We support the testing phenomenon and provide superior customer support that is second to none. As always, we will continue to strive for excellence and accuracy in pill and powder testing, by developing more accurate products to help you decide rather than guessing. And remember, life is about making informed decisions.
B.
Chemical Generation - Life is about making informed decisions.
[This message has been edited by johnboy (edited 08 November 2000).]
 
Wow Im ordering one tommorow! Its so refreshing to know that theyre are some really awesome people out theyre trying to keep us rollers as safe as possible. But a question, when will the full size test kits of E2 being sold? I only see the Sample kits on theyre? You rock!
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Im sorry for all the times I've brought tears to your eyes... for all those stupid things I've said, and things that I've did
 
I think hes trying to say that useing either E2 or E1 will offer you an edge over just takeing the pill without testing it. Get it? As I understand E2 is a stand alone kit that just detects between more chemicals than the E1 kit.
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Im sorry for all the times I've brought tears to your eyes... for all those stupid things I've said, and things that I've did
 
You mentioned discerning MDA and MDMA...
I think I speak for a lot of people when i ask:
Can it tell the difference between MDMA and MDEA?
Good work guys!!! And thanks in advance.
 
You are both correct.
'E2: 2nd Defence' is a new tester that, by itself, will allow you to test for MDxx, Ketamine and PMA. IN other words, you will get a positive reaction to them. For Speed you will also get an indication as to the strength of it (With some experience. We LOVE this!). A weak reaction to 'street' cut speed, a much stronger reaction to 'pre-cut' speed.
By using E2 in combination with 'E: a quick and simple test', you will be more assured that you are getting what you THINK you're getting. As I've mentioned many times, the Marquis reagent testers can be fooled or mis-read. By doing two small tests on separate samples, you will be far more CERTAIN about what you're getting. We strongly believe that this is going to help prevent manufacturers and dealer cutting and substituting their drugs, much the same as when Marquis reagent first hit the streets.
Marquis reagent won't give a positive reaction to PMA or Ketamine. It gives a nice orange reaction to speed, which incidentally, when you have very strong speed, Marquis reagent will give you a VERY bright orange reaction at first, changing to orange/brown then brown. There will be a lot of hissing and bubbling. Sound familiar? Also shows you that these spot tests can be 'semi-quantitative' (ie: You can get an idea of the strength of your stuff by the reaction, if you watch and use your experience - Don't ANYONE try to tell me otherwise!)
Unfortunately Marquis reagent and E2 can't distinguish between MDEA and MDMA. These two compounds are too closely related to distinguish between them using these simple spot tests (at this stage - haven't stopped working on this). The reaction for MDA and MDMA is very similar, so you have to watch carefully, particularly the first 30 seconds or so.
See you at the disco.
B.
Chemical Generation
 
Well, the E2 sounds cool but do I understand correctly that it can not distinguish between mdma and mda ??
I checked the website but the information seems incomplete still ?
Nothing against the product but I don't understand everything yet.
Something else, we had some discussion about drippers already. I just received a brand new fresh E kit from someone in Australia because I wanted to see for myself what your dripper is like (remember someone once claimed that E was superior to all other test kits....)
My conclusion is that maybe your dripper drips easier, it is easy to drip more than one drop as well. I also noticed (and I hope you don't mind I throw it in here) that the liquid that came out was slightly brownish.
Not very dark but definitely brownish.
If this was a fresh test, I wonder what the liquid will look like in 4 weeks (I'll let you know). My conclusion is that your dripper seems to react to the liquid ??
(We were already chasing your dripper supplier but from what I've seen, we will continue with our own drippers.) Our own drippers cause the liquid to go slightly yellowish but (my impression) it takes a lot longer and not the brownish teint (is that English ?).
I base this upon the fact that I assume the kit I received is fairly fresh.
Once again, don't get me wrong here. I fully support all testing kits. It is just what I saw and we have been through many dripper issues.
On the other hand, a slight brown liquid should not be a problem to properly observe a reaction.
Last thing, this is just a bit of criticism, hope that's OK. I think it is very good that you distribute E (and/or e2) in Australia. We are competitors but after all, we are on the same side ;-)
Regards
aj
[This message has been edited by aj (edited 31 October 2000).]
 
When will the full version of E2 be availible to order? All I see is the trial size...
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Im sorry for all the times I've brought tears to your eyes... for all those stupid things I've said, and things that I've did
 
Having had a trial version for about 1 1/2 months now, I have found that the dropper on it has been perfect. No unnecisary drips and no leaking. Also, the reagnt has stayed a fairly light coloured yellow. I didnt notice and browness to it, and tests can all be seen very clearly. Thumbs up for you chemical gen!!
I have a question tho. Is "E2" trademarked or copywrite?? Because I was flicking through the paper today and noticed that there are these new Energiser batteries called "E2" So... if it is trademarked, you have the right to sue for defamation. Otherwise, i would change your name REAL quick because a huge company such as energiser could tear you to shreds. Just a quick warning note I guess. I would hate to see Chemical Gen go down due to something as squallid as copywrite infringement. If you need any advice, please email me as my darling papa specialises in intellectual property. (copywrite law)
Keep up the good work guys, and for the bigger bottles, perhaps we could get a dripper the same as on the sample bottles? They are great!! cheers chemical gen!
 
Um, as I understand it Chemical Generation is Aussie based, so how exactly did you guys get your hands on PMA to certify that you'll get a reaction with the E2 kit? (And Ketamine?)
Just curious - I can't wait to get my hands on a kit that will show up PMA, but I would really love some assurance that it really does work! (Of course with very little chemical knowledge, I have no way of knowing whether you could test it without a sample!)
But definitely well done on keeping us safe!
Ta,
Bent
 
Bumpity Bump!
Im interested in getting an answer to my question
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Everybody needs some time away
Just stuck in the k-hole again
An 18 hour holiday
Just stuck in the k-hole again, just once again
Mrs. Kitty Ketamine your perseverance may
Outlast my ambition to go home
Infatuation with your dark side I obey
Forbidden pleasures, I have grown to loathe/love
 
i will be picking myself up an e2 tester soon to have a go at it myself in conjunction with the eztester to look n compare... great work chem gen! =)
my question is similar to bent's.. how has it been tested that pma and k do react, and that nothing else reacts in a similar fashion?
smilez =)
 
can anyone tell me how to contact these guys, i have tried their link, but alas, to no avail!!!!!!
i would be interested in trying one of these kits....
 
i fixed the link. it should work now.
as for the question about PMA etc, i dont think they actuallyhave tested it with pure samples. i think they are just basing the results on textbook standards. if i'm wrong then let me know, chemgen.
 
Bump (again)
Chemical Generation, where are you? You have potentinal customers waiting.
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Everybody needs some time away
Just stuck in the k-hole again
An 18 hour holiday
Just stuck in the k-hole again, just once again
Mrs. Kitty Ketamine your perseverance may
Outlast my ambition to go home
Infatuation with your dark side I obey
Forbidden pleasures, I have grown to loathe/love
 
There are chemical supply houses that sell 1ml quantities of most illegal drugs, for the purpose of analytical testing and calibration.
Often high priced, but you can purchase most of the samples you need
TheGamer
 
Well I've already e-mailed them. And have gotten no response. oh well I'll just wait till the new EZ-Test kit is out.
Thanks for all your help anyway.
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There's no lesson to be learned
There's no one left to learn it
 
As I mentioned in another post, we will be spending much less time on Bluelight. If you need to contact us, please use our e-mail address. Don't assume your message just instantly arrives on my doorstep!
The commercial product for 'E2:2nd Defence' will be available imminently. We are awaiting the commercial artwork. In any case, we made a business decision to promote through to international distributors, rather than do web based sales. It's a time/cost thing, and may change! We do have available the 1mL trial size. It was used to gain some feedback from the field. It's all well and good tetsing on pure samples in the lab (as we did), but we wanted/needed to see how it worked in the field with real samples and impurities etc.
The trademark thing is a non-issue for us. We are E2, they are E squared, and they are a completely different products. Thanks for the offer!
As I have emphasised before, there are many compounds that can show similar colour reactions to your drug of choice. That's why we have been promoting the use of BOTH testers. We have also found that E2 is more difficult to fool than Marquis reagent, lasts longer, and gives more colour reactions for more drugs of choice. This is a great success for us.
As for the brown solution issue: AJ - there is more to the tester than it going brown. Marquis reagent goes off quicker than you realise. That's why we priced it so cheaply. Test a fresh batch with asprin. Test an older batch (one that isn't brown) with asprin. Observe the diference in the speed and intensity of the colour. Now try just sulphuric acid. Oooh look - dark purple! If you heat it, store it lying down, jiggle it around, leave the cap a bit loose, and many other conditions I won't name - Marquis reagent will die, and you won't know. Unless of course you test it FIRST with Asprin, like I had told people to.
Get Up Kid - if you contact us by e-mail I will personally ensure you get a free sample of E2 expedited to your door for evaluation purposes!
Regards,
B.
 
Ill be sure to take you up on that offer!
Ill send the e-mail in a second.
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