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Cheap sake - bad reaction

tackyspiral

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So I enjoy sake but I noticed that whenever I drink the cheapest sake I have a very strange almost allergic reation.
Everything seems normal at first but then when I go to sleep at the end of the evening I have symptoms that I can only compare to mild to moderate opiate maybe benzo withdrawl its very strange.
I get hot and cold/wake up with the sheets soaked in sweat/ cold sweats.... and I get really really jerky like I have trouble getting comfortable and then I barely fall asleep and harshly jerk myself awake

I have had this experience twice... with the same brand of very cheap sake... I have never had a bad reaction to any other sake
I also did a lil research about the cheaper sake and there are not a lot of um industry standards to monitor how its made and whats used to make it .... basically there is probably a good reason its cheap... my guess is i have some sort of strange allergy to something in this cheap sake

I dont plan on drinking it again....
* also just a side note - the only other alcohol i have ever had a reaction to was cheap vodka... but it was not the same kind of reaction as this and i found a clear explanation for that (cheap vodka intolerance is common)

Basically I was wondering if anyone else had experienced anything like this with sake and just to fulfill a little scientific curiousity what exactly about it could cause these symptoms?
 
I don't think its an allergy, when I used to drink alcohol I also suffered this when drinking extremely cheap bottles of wine or vodka. I believe it's because it literally is poisoning you due to its extremely low quality, and most likely something to do with the ethanol content in it.
 
^ ethanol poisoning... i dunno if cheap wine or sake would have enough to cause that....
hard liquor yes possibly.... also i was saying the bad reaction to cheap vodka was completely different than the sake reaction .... so different cause
 
Are you Asian? It actually has been proven Asians get allergic reaction from ethanol.

I would google for you, but I am on my phone .just google Asian allergic alcohol
 
no i am white.... also like i said i think the sake reaction is something different....
i could see cheap vodka causing the ethanol reaction .... and the two reactions are different
 
maybe food poisoning, or maybe your body just doesnt tolerate sake. if that is the case, avoid sake and drink other liqour or beer or dont drink at all.
 
Soooo.... don't drink that brand anymore? lol


Sorry, but there are OTHER "cheap" brands of sake available. Have you ever checked the ingredients out? Have you ever tried to compare the ingredients of the cheap sake with the better sake that doesn't make you sick? Maybe this particular brand is putting something in their sake that's making you sick.

Just a thought.
 
If you are having an allergic reaction to alcohol, you may be allergic to the rice used to make the sake? I know gluten allergies have similar manifestations with beer drinkers. (wheat). You should try either a better brand of sake or maybe heating it up to the point that you could kill any potential bacteria or grossness in the sake--Im not sure how much this will affect the alcohol content, as sake is meant to be served hot...but not boiled im assuming. If you have had reactions to vodka as well, maybe consider what the vodka was distilled from. Was it potato vodka? You could have a starch intolerance, if that is a thing. Rice/potatoes?
 
Honestly right now i am not drinking at all anyway i made this thread out of curiousity....
i can drink other even just slightly pricier sakes without a problem.... also sake bottles dont always have the ingredients listed
and i think i confused the issue with the vodka thing.... thats a completely different and rather common reaction to cheap vodka.... the sake reaction was very different and wierd

The reason i am curious about the sake thing is that i have never heard of anyone having those symptoms as a food reaction...
its not that i really want to drink this brand of sake or anything i just was wondering if people had experienced it or had heard of anything causing those symptoms
also i am generally not prone to allergic reactions

one more time.... forget i mentioned the cheap vodka completely different symptom set.... also completely explainable
 
^ thanks for the link however i am about 99.9% sure its not a rice or yeast allergy.... also as i said other types of sake are ok

also this particular sake was clear...
 
I think all we can do is speculate. I have experienced similar symptoms after consuming certain alcoholic beverages but I'm not sure why. Have you been taking any other drugs recently? Sometimes for me I think it was opioid withdrawal, alcohol just makes it come on faster. Sometimes I get a bad reaction even to small amounts of alcohol and at times I shouldn't be experiencing any opioid withdrawal. I never paid much attention to the specific brands that caused it though. Cheap-medium price sake is not always bad quality, i wouldn't blame it on the cheapness. Who knows, maybe it's a kind of immune reaction to something in it, or it has a high methanol content or something, but Gekkeikan is not actually a bad quality sake.

Sake is a fermented beverage which undergoes no distillation process and Gekkeikan contains no added sulfites or preservatives. It is made simply from water, rice, and a malt-like ingredient known as “koji".
 
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it's honestly just because its cheap. cheap alcohol produces side effects worse than other alcohol. just don't drink the stuff, find another alternative to it.
 
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