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OK, now this is a funny question because people often don't like pills cause it puts them on their arse, they turn around and say I like chargy pills.
So often I say do you like speed bombs or pills with lots of speed and they say no, we like chargy MDMA pills. Do we actually get chargy MDMA pills, i wouldnt know cause I always have a lot of speed as well as pills when I go out, but is it possible to get MDMA that makes u want to dance etc i know every person is different, like for me, i can pretty much do what i like when i like on pills.

Just seems odd sometimes people saying all they want is chargy MDMA pills
 
Personally, my opinion is this:

Lazy slang term: "Smacky"... What it means: "MDMA pill".
Lazy slang term: "Cokey"... What it means: "Speedbomb".
Lazy slang term: "Chargy"... What it means: "Speedbomb".
Lazy slang term: "Chargy MD pill"... What it means: "Speedbomb with ketamine",

OR... if it is MDMA, sometimes I think 'chargy' means its a lower/higher dose MDMA pill than the person is accustomed to eating.

The reason is that I think the effects of MDMA are quite different at different doses, which is what explains an awful lot of the confusion which prevails when we all try to sort out feelings from facts after the pills have gone down the hatch. I have done extensive laboratory tests to determine the different feelings of different dose levels of MDMA ;) It's been my experience that a 50mg dose of MDMA feels distinctly different in many ways to a 100mg dose (and different again with 150mg and 200mg, understandably). The effects of the drug feel more chatty, more loved up, and more social at 50mg (for example) in my opinion than at 100mg. At higher doses the effects change dramatically, particularly in that negative effects are exacerbated, and the mental effects entirely different in character.

I explain this to myself by thinking about MDMA's effects like a series of levels. Beyond a certain dose you might find you stop noticing that you're chatty, or loved-up, or feeling tingles ... and realise that all you can concentrate on is your eyes wiggling, or what funny visuals you're seeing. With a smaller dose, I think that the come-up seems to take longer because you ultimately reach a lower level, but you can stay on a chatty and loved up level for a lot longer. With a high dose, your come-up takes off like a rocket, and you blast through chattiness and loved up in a matter of an hour so the rest of your roll is peaking hard, until it starts to subside and you remember where you are.

As an analogy I suppose I think that the dosing is like a plane trip, where the dose changes the cruising altitude. For a small dose, you're off the ground and everything looks a lot different to when you're on the ground. For a high dose, you're way above the clouds, and it looks vastly different to cruising below the clouds. But that doesn't change the fact it's a plane.

Anyway that's my theory on so-called "chargy" pills - and why people make the distinction. I'm totally from the opposite school of thought -- rather than take a pill and then attempt to work out how strong it was later, I much prefer to increment my dose slowly up to exactly the right level. That way I can know that it's MDMA, and it feels exactly like it's supposed to (not too heavy, not too light...). That way I don't need to use terms like smacky or chargy to describe how strong it was, but rather what proportion of the pill was consumed (i.e., Strong MDMA pill, noticeable effects from a quarter, peaking hard by a half).

Feel free to comment...

BigTrancer :)
 
I personally believe that how 'good' a pill is is a function of several variables including your mood pre-dumping, the music on the night, if anyone else is dumping, how many friends you have round, where you are.....and yes, the ingredients in the pill.

BigTrancer, you remember the safe sexes? They were strong as, very chargy too. Would this have just been speed in them, cos I don't think of an excellent pill as one that is 'smacky' (which you say is true mdma), I like the energy combined with the head fuck!
 
BT is the man, ok, I use to say, woah these pills are SMACKY, so I use to stick to speed, and just snort that up... But once the 3's hit the market, I decided hey, lets try half, and I was feeling MAD! Dacing, Loved Up, Focused, Not fucked, so I've been taking half a pill, then taking the other half later, and I've loved it bad!

I'm so happy now, pills are the bomb..

If you get smacked out, don't take a full one, take half... Speedbomb's are shit.. if you want speed, go buy a halfweight, and snort it... don't fuck the industry by demanding speed bombs :(
 
Thats a good point dylanjh82 what actually was in the safe sexes. They were strong as fuck but you could dance your ass off too.
 
Offtopic: ^ I went to a party where a large proportion of the crowd was eating blue safe sex/durex pills (virtually anyone you cared to ask had eaten them) and the place was utterly vibeless... huge name international DJs, enormous crowd, decor to the hilt, warehouse style venue packed to the rafters... Hardly anyone was dancing, everyone seemed to be just peaking so hard they could hardly talk or see, let alone dance. Must be mind over matter...

BigTrancer :)
 
I never had a safe sex (had original beige ones as well as the newer colour varieties) where I didn't peak hard and go hard full of energy all night.

Had orange 3's on thurs, I would call them smacky cos I had no (not as much as usual at least) energy but the peak was NOT INTENSE at all, peaked for ages, yes, but definately not the deep head fuck I was after
 
BigTrancer said:
Offtopic: ^ I went to a party where a large proportion of the crowd was eating blue safe sex/durex pills (virtually anyone you cared to ask had eaten them) and the place was utterly vibeless... huge name international DJs, enormous crowd, decor to the hilt, warehouse style venue packed to the rafters... Hardly anyone was dancing, everyone seemed to be just peaking so hard they could hardly talk or see, let alone dance. Must be mind over matter...

BigTrancer :)
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I seem to remember someone else being fairly off guts that night as well ;);)
 
blue Safe Sex / Durex

Those Blue Safe Sex/Durex pills were MDMA and DXM I was told, and I was at a big commercial event last year in October in Melbourne where most people seemed to be on them, and most people were NOT acting like MDMA (clean, loved up) - they were acting MDxx WASTED and scatterd, and tripped out, and retarded, and lots of nausea (common on MDMA/DXM combo), and a fair bit of throwing up, and most people finding it hard to dance (DXM makes my legs very wobbly), and some people having a bad trip (DXM can do this). But the MDMA/DXM gives you a BIG rush, and lots of mind dopamine so that explains alot of the symptoms (nausea), but I find that people get very scattered after a few hours on that combo, so you do not get the rave unity vibe that MDMA alone gives.

I went with a group of 15 people on those blue safe sex pills, and 5 were drug addicts (drink and smoke everyday) and enjoy being wasted and LOVED those pills, gave them 9/10. The other 10 people were social drug takers (drink on the weekend and smoke a joint occasionally) who did not enjoy the pills at all, said they were strong but not nice. All from the same batch. Just shows how much DRUG HISTORY affects experience and views.

Alot of people on this board probably fit into the first catagory I suspect.

Keep smiling...
 
OK this is getting off topic: I will categorically state here that the blue durex's gave no Marquis reaction indicating DXM, they didn't feel like DXM, and they didn't feel like DXM with MDMA at any dose that would fit in a pill. At all.

I took them on several occasions. They just tested positive for MDxx, and they felt like they were strong MDxx. That's it.

BigTrancer :)
 
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