Stimulants Charge Withdrawal

[Pegasus]

You just need to relax... The effects you are describing are common from taking too high of a dose of stimulants. Fretting over it will just make it worse. It might take a few days but you will feel alright again. Try to relax for now.

 

[bickrick21]

At the very least if you do use drugs, DONT BUY BRAND NAMED SHITE! Buy the actual chemical in pure form.

Glad you're feeling better, your posts are much more coherent now. Try to sleep, you will eventually, and it may take a while but you'l get back to normal
Wish you all the best, the anxiety will subside, and the stuttering wont be permenant, i've had that from abusing stims.

We'd be able to help much more if we knew what it was that was in whatever you took

probably mdpv.


8)if he would have had it in pure form he would of been feeling even worse right now, that is if he was alive. i always buy the brand stuff so i don't binge because you get so much, for so cheap. i wouldn't sleep till the sack of mdpv is gone or my heart exploded

 

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^^^ I be a she, lol.

Thanks for the support guys. It's really a comfort. I just have to stop worrying about this... I do wish I could sleep though. =/

 

[skillz~4~thrillz]

one last thing. you said you snorted .5grams which if i am correct was the entire contents of the substance(which is most likely MDPV-but as to how much of that is pure MVPD and what other fillers are also in the substance is hard to determine,at least for now...we need to keep this as simple as possible for your psychological benefit).

NEVER try a substance in a large amount. if you want to try something you need to do some research first.get at basic understanding of what you are about to put in your body. ask questions about dosage for a 1st time experience and then take that" with a grain of salt". and by that i mean do a little less than recommended and see how your body and mind respond.

again,we can talk personally through PM about this very soon. I feel compelled to post this for the sake of HARM REDUCTION, which I believe in deeply.people will always experiment with substances. all types of people from all walks of life. the stereotype of drug users-and further more "junkies" is something I am so passionate about contributing to the removal of the unfair stereotypes that are associated with those terms,among others,that are used to define a person who has chosen to use drugs.
Please remember that this is an extremely complex topic and I am trying to keep it SIMPLE. I am happy to have more in depth discussions about anything I have posted in the proper thread or via PM. And that is a very heartfelt,sincere invitation to any and everyone.

Much Peace and Love............skillz

 

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hey would smoking some pot help?

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

Thanks for the support guys. It's really a comfort. I just have to stop worrying about this... I do wish I could sleep though. =/

Not a problem, that's what we're here for Just relax, this shall soon pass.

Do you have access to a sedating antihistamine such as promethazine, diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or doxylamine (the active sedating ingredient in NyQuil)?

A regular dose of any of those will do a lot in helping you get the sleep you need.

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hey would smoking some pot help?

Most likely. I use cannabis to help mellow out the amphetamine comedown often. As long as it doesn't usually give you anxiety or paranoia, it will probably help you out a lot. Even more if you combine it with a sedative antihistamine or benzo.

 

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one last thing. you said you snorted .5grams which if i am correct was the entire contents of the substance(which is most likely MDPV-but as to how much of that is pure MVPD and what other fillers are also in the substance is hard to determine,at least for now...we need to keep this as simple as possible for your psychological benefit).

NEVER try a substance in a large amount. if you want to try something you need to do some research first.get at basic understanding of what you are about to put in your body. ask questions about dosage for a 1st time experience and then take that" with a grain of salt". and by that i mean do a little less than recommended and see how your body and mind respond.

again,we can talk personally through PM about this very soon. I feel compelled to post this for the sake of HARM REDUCTION, which I believe in deeply.people will always experiment with substances. all types of people from all walks of life. the stereotype of drug users-and further more "junkies" is something I am so passionate about contributing to the removal of the unfair stereotypes that are associated with those terms,among others,that are used to define a person who has chosen to use drugs.
Please remember that this is an extremely complex topic and I am trying to keep it SIMPLE. I am happy to have more in depth discussions about anything I have posted in the proper thread or via PM. And that is a very heartfelt,sincere invitation to any and everyone.

Much Peace and Love............skillz

Yeah, I've always had an interest in how drugs make you feel. I couldn't tell you why, but I feel like there's something to be learned.
If you don't mind then, I'm gonna send you a PM. I'd like to ask some questions I don't want to share here.

 

[bickrick21]

one last thing. you said you snorted .5grams which if i am correct was the entire contents of the substance(which is most likely MDPV-but as to how much of that is pure MVPD and what other fillers are also in the substance is hard to determine,at least for now...we need to keep this as simple as possible for your psychological benefit).

NEVER try a substance in a large amount. if you want to try something you need to do some research first.get at basic understanding of what you are about to put in your body. ask questions about dosage for a 1st time experience and then take that" with a grain of salt". and by that i mean do a little less than recommended and see how your body and mind respond.

again,we can talk personally through PM about this very soon. I feel compelled to post this for the sake of HARM REDUCTION, which I believe in deeply.people will always experiment with substances. all types of people from all walks of life. the stereotype of drug users-and further more "junkies" is something I am so passionate about contributing to the removal of the unfair stereotypes that are associated with those terms,among others,that are used to define a person who has chosen to use drugs.
Please remember that this is an extremely complex topic and I am trying to keep it SIMPLE. I am happy to have more in depth discussions about anything I have posted in the proper thread or via PM. And that is a very heartfelt,sincere invitation to any and everyone.

Much Peace and Love............skillz

yeah it was prolly mdpv, and it was def cut. 500mg of mdpv would kill him lol.

hey would smoking some pot help?

depends, for me it gets me anxious, slight paranoia...if you're not like that then it can definitely help, although i think 2-3 shots/beers would be better....slow the heart rate down, make you relaxed, tired, etc.

 

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Not a problem, that's what we're here for Just relax, this shall soon pass.

Do you have access to a sedating antihistamine such as promethazine, diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or doxylamine (the active sedating ingredient in NyQuil)?

A regular dose of any of those will do a lot in helping you get the sleep you need.

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Most likely. I use cannabis to help mellow out the amphetamine comedown often. As long as it doesn't usually give you anxiety or paranoia, it will probably help you out a lot. Even more if you combine it with a sedative antihistamine or benzo.

I took some Benadryl earlier but I don't remember when. At the moment I'm a bit too paranoid to go looking for some, as my parents are gonna wonder what's up.

As for the pot, I might try smoking some tomorrow if I still can't sleep. I really wanna lay off drugs for a while tho.

 

[bickrick21]

IME save the nyquil, benedryl, or whatever it is you plan on taking for sleep right before you go to sleep. just a lil tip. if you take it trying ot get tired, and you're still stimulated, you wont get tired, well you might, but you won't be able to sleep still and you will get uncomfortable

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

I took some Benadryl earlier but I don't remember when. At the moment I'm a bit too paranoid to go looking for some, as my parents are gonna wonder what's up.

As for the pot, I might try smoking some tomorrow if I still can't sleep. I really wanna lay off drugs for a while tho.

MDPV is much more distructive of a drug than pot or Benadryl.

I don't think taking a Benadryl would arose suspiciousness on your parents' part. It is the beginning of allergy season after all...

 

[bickrick21]

MDPV is much more distructive of a drug than pot or Benadryl.

I don't think taking a Benadryl would arose suspiciousness on your parents' part. It is the beginning of allergy season after all...

stims make you paranoid. every time my parents tried talking to me when i was speedin over the weekend i instantly thought they were on to me, or i was talking/acting different. i spent like 5 hours trying to figure out if they were tracing my internet history

 

[skillz~4~thrillz]

probably mdpv.


8)if he would have had it in pure form he would of been feeling even worse right now, that is if he was alive. i always buy the brand stuff so i don't binge because you get so much, for so cheap. i wouldn't sleep till the sack of mdpv is gone or my heart exploded

this is a very dangerous statement to make in this particular thread. we are dealing with someone having a negative effect to something she knows little or nothing about. please do not be offended by this. I say this from the bottom of my heart bc i care and i have many years of experience in using many different substances. someone else who may want to try this substance-regardless of brand names or what have you-may think that they will have a better experience if they don't sleep till the bag is gone or their heart explodes. poor choice of words-IMHO and not one made in the interest of HARM REDUCTION.
again...i am a 34 year old user of many substances-and a long time user of IV speed(amps-not RCs). there is something called stimulant psychosis that is just one of the possible and REAL dangers in prolonged stimulant use and lack of sleep. I have sent my concerns to the senior MOD and another OD MOD and if I am wrong I will happily make a public apology. again-I say this will nothing but love,concern and a very adamant belief in HARM REDUCTION.

PLEASE,BE SAFE AND STAY SAFE...............skillz

 

[bickrick21]

this is a very dangerous statement to make in this particular thread. we are dealing with someone having a negative effect to something she knows little or nothing about. please do not be offended by this. I say this from the bottom of my heart bc i care and i have many years of experience in using many different substances. someone else who may want to try this substance-regardless of brand names or what have you-may think that they will have a better experience if they don't sleep till the bag is gone or their heart explodes. poor choice of words-IMHO and not one made in the interest of HARM REDUCTION.
again...i am a 34 year old user of many substances-and a long time user of IV speed(amps-not RCs). there is something called stimulant psychosis that is just one of the possible and REAL dangers in prolonged stimulant use and lack of sleep. I have sent my concerns to the senior MOD and another OD MOD and if I am wrong I will happily make a public apology. again-I say this will nothing but love,concern and a very adamant belief in HARM REDUCTION.

PLEASE,BE SAFE AND STAY SAFE...............skillz

i'm aware of stimulant psychosis...and having a sack of pure mdpv would definitely lead to that. especially when a 10mg dose, which is high, looks like nothing but a few sprinkles.


HARM REDUCTION is apparent here. i'd much rather have someone who is new to this with no scale have .5g of really cut mdpv than a gram of pure mdpv. sure we don't really know what the fillers are, but chances are they're not going to kill you buy doing as much as he did. give him a gram of pure mdpv and imagine where the poor guy would be.

 

[bickrick21]

you're basically telling me you would rather have some inexperienced guy have pure mdpv than cut mdpv. sure it's cut's cut...but not with anything more harmful than an overdose of pure mdpv. he didn't even say he had a scale! picture his lines of CHARGE being lines of pure mdpv...and on top of that he has a whole sack of it next to him. when 1g of pure mdpv=100+ doses

 

[skillz~4~thrillz]

i'm aware of stimulant psychosis...and having a sack of pure mdpv would definitely lead to that. especially when a 10mg dose, which is high, looks like nothing but a few sprinkles.

my point is that the OP is NOT aware. i am just urging you to be careful what you post bc you do not know how othesr react to substances. i am willing to say i am wrong-it is just my OPINION that such a statement is dangerous. that is all. i have invested so much of myself into this site. i am currently working toward my Ph.D in psychology so that I can further my goal to help as many people as I can as a Psychologist. I am making no judgement at all. I am simply trying to give you a different perspective on one particular post.
my intent is not to be an asshole. seriously. i have just been trying to help this young woman.
she needs to be given facts and explained the ways to come by those facts. using the search engine is imperative to being a part of Bluelight. My suggestions to her are made for the sake of HARM REDUCTION. the statement you made that i highlighted in red is just to alert to to the possibility that maybe your post is not in the best interest or for the sake of HARM REDUCTION. i am not saying it is intentional-it is just a suggestion to you when posting in general.

 

[skillz~4~thrillz]

you're basically telling me you would rather have some inexperienced guy have pure mdpv than cut mdpv. sure it's cut's cut...but not with anything more harmful than an overdose of pure mdpv. he didn't even say he had a scale! picture his lines of CHARGE being lines of pure mdpv...and on top of that he has a whole sack of it next to him. when 1g of pure mdpv=100+ doses

i am referring to your statement about not sleeping until the bag is gone or until your heart explodes.period.

not a well thought opinion to post to someone who does not know as much as you do about this topic.

lets end this and let the MODs sort it out. I am sorry if I offended you. you are entitled to your opinion,as am I.

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

^I agree.

I don't think anybody meant for there to be hard feelings. We're all trying to help the OP through her comedown and the after effects of what was most likely a mistake by using these bath salts and/or (possibly) MDPV.

It is always best to err on the side of caution when it comes to drugs and how people react to them. Pure MDPV or cut MDPV, it is still dangerous and should be treated with respect and approached with harm reduction methods in mind. That's the point of this forum and I personally think you're both doing a good job of promoting harm reduction.

Having a scale is important for measuring powders in general, but if the OP is having bad reactions or bad comedowns, she shouldn't be using MDPV at all.

I think it is in the OPs best interest to keep this discussion on topic, that is, assisting her with managing her comedown/after-effects of usage of Charge (which may or may not be cut MDPV, we don't know for sure what chemical is in Charge, if it is cut and if so what it is cut with).

The best harm reduction is to not use a research chemical such as MDPV because little is known about long-term adverse effects, interactions with other drugs, and things of the like.

 

[bickrick21]

i am referring to your statement about not sleeping until the bag is gone or until your heart explodes.period.

not a well thought opinion to post to someone who does not know as much as you do about this topic.

lets end this and let the MODs sort it out. I am sorry if I offended you. you are entitled to your opinion,as am I.

i'm just saying a lil vial with hardly any mdpv in it is gonna eventually run out before the average person dies. you give someone the same amount in pure form they are either gonna A) load up a line not knowing what 5-10mg looks like or B) sniff it till it's gone, the average inexperienced user is gonna continue redosing imo. think how bad his comedown/hangover would be then




but we're all in this for hard reduction, and we both want the OP to make a recovery, i know what he is going through and he just needs to take the advice ITT and he'll be alright

 

[bickrick21]

^I agree.

I don't think anybody meant for there to be hard feelings. We're all trying to help the OP through her comedown and the after effects of what was most likely a mistake by using these bath salts and/or (possibly) MDPV.

It is always best to err on the side of caution when it comes to drugs and how people react to them. Pure MDPV or cut MDPV, it is still dangerous and should be treated with respect and approached with harm reduction methods in mind. That's the point of this forum and I personally think you're both doing a good job of promoting harm reduction.

Having a scale is important for measuring powders in general, but if the OP is having bad reactions or bad comedowns, she shouldn't be using MDPV at all.

I think it is in the OPs best interest to keep this discussion on topic, that is, assisting her with managing her comedown/after-effects of usage of Charge (which may or may not be cut MDPV, we don't know for sure what chemical is in Charge, if it is cut and if so what it is cut with).

The best harm reduction is to not use a research chemical such as MDPV because little is known about long-term adverse effects, interactions with other drugs, and things of the like.

with baths salts ime and imo a scale isn't gonna do much as you don't know what you're weighing. just start really small, wait, then go again till you reach the desired effects....also many RC's don't have a lot of info on them...but i thought mdpv was was on the least neurotoxic ones