Chapter II: The Abyss is Eternal !

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Coxenormous said:
Astrology however is studied by people called “Astronomers” they observe stars and space, dude they’re both science
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Ermmm...not quite.
"Astronomy is the study of the universe and its contents outside of Earth's atmosphere. Astronomers examine the positions, motions, and properties of celestial objects. Astrology attempts to study how those positions, motions, and properties affect people and events on Earth" - https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/whats-difference-astrology-vs-astronomy/.

Also, astrology was conceived in ancient Babylon some 2400 years ago "Astrology originated in Babylon far back in antiquity, with the Babylonians developing their own form of horoscopes around 2,400 years ago. Then around 2,100 years ago, astrology spread to the eastern Mediterranean, becoming popular in Egypt, which at the time was under the control of a dynasty of Greek kings" - https://www.livescience.com/17943-oldest-astrologer-board-zodiac.html. Since then planet earth has changed position in the cosmos in relation to the star signs to such an extent that pretty much everyone has been born in the last ~900 years is actually the next sign across. So a Capricorn is actually an Aquarius, a Pisces is actually an Aries etc.
 
Coxenormous said:
Is psychology a science? Yes, in the sense that psychology was defined by the application of scientific method(s) and psychologists conduct valuable research and have developed some key insights into animal behavior, cognition, consciousness, and the human condition
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Just for the record.
Psychology isn't science because psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability. Due to psychology's reliance on subjective experience it can at best be defined as a pseudoscience it social science. Would you define Dr. Phil as a scientist?
 
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empeebee said:
Ermmm...not quite.
"Astronomy is the study of the universe and its contents outside of Earth's atmosphere. Astronomers examine the positions, motions, and properties of celestial objects. Astrology attempts to study how those positions, motions, and properties affect people and events on Earth" - https://skyandtelescope.org/astronomy-resources/whats-difference-astrology-vs-astronomy/.

Also, astrology was conceived in ancient Babylon some 2400 years ago "Astrology originated in Babylon far back in antiquity, with the Babylonians developing their own form of horoscopes around 2,400 years ago. Then around 2,100 years ago, astrology spread to the eastern Mediterranean, becoming popular in Egypt, which at the time was under the control of a dynasty of Greek kings" - https://www.livescience.com/17943-oldest-astrologer-board-zodiac.html. Since then planet earth has changed position in the cosmos in relation to the star signs to such an extent that pretty much everyone has been born in the last ~900 years is actually the next sign across. So a Capricorn is actually an Aquarius, a Pisces is actually an Aries etc.
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Well atleast you can back yourself up. There are many views on this topic so both of us are not right nor wrong
 
empeebee said:
Just for the record.
Psychology isn't science because psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability. Due to psychology's reliance on subjective experience it can at best be defined as a pseudoscience it social science. Would you define Dr. Phil as a scientist?
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I will always believe psychology is a science, but Astrology can be theorized only because it's linked to mythology. Now if we take a look at the word Myth in (Myth)ology
Definition of mythology

1: an allegorical narrative
2: a body of myths: such as
a: the myths dealing with the gods, demigods, and legendary heroes of a particular people
b: MYTHOS sense 2cold war mythology
3: a branch of knowledge that deals with myth
4: a popular belief or assumption that has grown up around someone or something : MYTH sense 2adefective mythologies that ignore masculine depth of feeling— Robert Bly

LETS ASK THE MAGIC CONCH!
 
empeebee said:
Just for the record.
Psychology isn't science because psychology often does not meet the five basic requirements for a field to be considered scientifically rigorous: clearly defined terminology, quantifiability, highly controlled experimental conditions, reproducibility and, finally, predictability and testability. Due to psychology's reliance on subjective experience it can at best be defined as a pseudoscience it social science. Would you define Dr. Phil as a scientist?
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If I was your teacher and these questions were on a test...
 
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