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chances of getting a short term benzo script for alcohol withdrawals?

I can only advise you to speak as candidly as possible with your doctor and see what they say. If you're good with your doctor and they are the understanding sort then they'll see you right. I've known a few docs to be complete dicks about things like this and others to offer more help than you could possibly hope for. I suppose it's all down to their level of compassion.

Personally, I never see my doc so I can get pretty much anything that is required. ( that's my doc, not A&E. Slipped a disc in my back, given 30mg Coco's, Had the tip of my finger lobbed off 30mg coco's NOT THE SAME LEVEL OF PAIN!)

Sometimes I really miss being American, the pain meds are so much better.

You can only be honest with your doctor. That is if you trust them and you're completely honest with them. A good doctor will see you right.
 
The Dr i had just built a good relationship with moved to aus so iv seen a couple other drs since. one who always has a long waiting list. Dont know if I should speak to him or not. Hes a nice man and helped me out quite a lot when i had stomach issues but bringing drug addiction into the equation he might freak out a bit and become a bit stand off ish.
 
That may be an issue sure, but seeing as you've had tummy problems they may be understanding. I had IBS that was so bad it was crippling so I can understand self medication. I'm sure they can. Just see what happens.
 
Personally, I wouldn't mention RC benzos. All I had to do was tell my GP that I was dependant on diazepam (true), which I bought online, and I was instantly prescribed them. Now, it's five years later, and I still get them on repeat. A doctor can't really refuse you a diazepam taper, if that's what you say you're dependant on. If you die from withdrawal, they're fucked.
 
Definately if you want to taper off benzos, the pharmacist and GP will work together to give you a daily or weekly pickup script so you cant screw it up, it's best just to be honest, and be prepared to take a long time over it, like 6 months to taper down from 15mg diaz a day to zero.

it is an inconvenience having to pick up scripts daily or weeky but it does help keep you on the regimen and once you are off them you will be glad of the help they gave you.

There is a lot of stigma attached to drug use and I think this puts people off asking for help like this, it shouldn't., as it's a sensible and effective way to get off the benzos.
 
I was a bit fucked last night and went onto a RC vendor that I used to frequent, I went and stupidly purchased lots of various benzos after reading this thread and salivating at the mouth. I'm a bit pissed off with myself, I've managed to stay off these fuckers for months now.

I messaged the vendor in a panic this morning seeing if I could at least reduce the order, unsurprisingly they've not got back to me. Oh well, looks like I'll have a packet in the post tomorrow. I suppose I've been finding it difficult to sleep lately, so they will come in handy as long as I don't abuse the fuck out of them (the reason I stopped them in the first place). Gulp.
 
Why not just flush them when they arrive so you're not tempting the inevitable.
 
I'm sure most of them allow you to return the items purchased if you've changed your mind. As long as they're still sealed.

Keeping them around and kidding yourself that you won't chip into them is asking for trouble. Best to flush them or return them and chalk it up to a lesson learnt.
 
Posted this in the benzo thread and in OD but no reply yet so maybe someone on this thread can advice me...

What are the chances of getting a supervised benzo (diaz) script off the dr for a taper, im uk based (northern ire) and in my early 20's? Been on and off rc benzos for 3 years now, longest time off them being about 2 months id say then I slowly slip back into full blown dependency quite sporadically. I have plenty of rc benzos to taper with but every time I get down to around 0.5mg diclaz I start to struggle and end up going on a mini binge taking me weeks to get back to a lower dose, im sick of this seemingly never ending cycle!

I want benzos out of my life for good, they have caused me to isolate myself due to anxiety issues or being to fucked to give a shit about anything including uni work and maintaining healthy relationships. I think having the support of medical professionals behind me id be able to stick to the taper and wouldn't feel as secretive and dodgy as taking rc benzos and keeping it a secret from firends/family.

Whats the worst that could happen? Id be labelled a a druggy with addictive behaviours and risk not being prescribed certain medicines in future incase I abuse them and maybe be turned away completely? Im guessing my Dr hasn't a clue about rc benzos so maybe I should print off some info about them?

I dunno how helpful this is, but when I went to the docs for help following a two year addiction to RC benzos they were very willing to help despite prior drug use (weed and speed) on my record but were confused as to the nature of Etizolam at first, so that took some explaining. I think I pretty much said to him 'I've been taking benzos I got off the internet, I'm addicted, and I want to get off them before I fuck myself up completely' and that was that. I never had any problems, I sort of expected some as I didn't know if being in a university city would hurt my chances or help them. I don't think it was even a case of just getting a 'good' GP as I didn't have a named GP and would see many different ones to get my script each week. One doctor was funny with me when I asked for two weeks' worth as I was going away but still allowed it. Saw a counsellor for a bit and came off em completely within three months I think it was, though the anxiety and general malaise persisted for a few months after, it was sort of combatted by the feeling of not being benzoed to fuck and ruining my life :D

So worst is they could label you a drug seeker I guess but I think a lot of them are sympathetic and can tell when stuff is genuine. Your idea about the RC benzo info is a good idea as my doc spent most the first session just googling the damn stuff. Take packets if you can and good luck! I think tapering off things is less likely to have you labelled as a drug seeker than substituting is, at least if you're asking for something specific.
 
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Thanks for the replies everyone, much appreciated! I have planned out a diclaz taper that should take roughly 7 weeks (just in time for xmas). I think I'll still arrange an appointment with my GP, print off info on etizolam and diclazepam and maybe bring some in to show them. If they are not very helpful or understanding I might ask them to arrange another appointment for a blood test or for me to come in for an appointment in full withdrawal to show them how dependant I am.

This is a genuine medical issue and its painful to think that the stigma that comes with addiction can have an effect on the help available to some people who truly want to sort themselves out. Its gona take a lot time but I know its possible to get free of these fuckers (did it before) but each time does seem worse (kindling effects maybe).
 
Gotta say I did try a Diclaz taper myself and I think it helped me getting off the stronger benzos enough that a fairly low dose diaz taper was viable, but it's down to the individual I guess. Sounds like you got it sorted anyway, hope it all goes well. It is horrible to think there are people out there dealing with addiction and wanting to get off whatever substance that are too worried to see their GP for the above reasons

Also what Ceres said
 
Thanks. I have everything printed off for the Dr including a possible taper plan from the ashton manual. Think I'l give this diclaz taper one more go but take it slower this time and if I feel it isnt working out for me i'll make an appointment with my GP.
 
I may as well chime in here, as I have some experience in dealing with a GP in regards to a problem with RC benzos. I was proper bad on the benzos for nearly 2 years, and I had only ever had half a 10mg valium in my life before etizolam began to get popular. Around April, I had pushed my tolerance to such ridiculous levels that when I lost my stash of clonazolam which I had been powering through, I found that even 1mg flubromalozam (yep, not pam...) wasn't even enough to stop me going into horrific withdrawals. I visited my GP, and while she was pretty understanding on the whole, she was very reluctant to prescribe anything initially as she was unfamiliar with the equivalent dosages of the various benzos I'd been taking (to be fair, I was finding it very hard to be specific at the time as I was a complete mess). So my advice would be to bring in print outs of the equivalence between the diclazepam/whatever else you've been taking in the last couple of weeks or so, so that your GP has a reasonably clear idea of your tolerance... this will make all the difference.

In the end, I had to meet with several healthcare professionals until I found a respected nurse with experience in the field that realised the severity of my situation and phoned my GP basically telling her to give me a script. If you go in prepared to show what equivalent dosage of RC benzos you are taking in comparison to diazepam, I imagine this would direct the conversation in the right direction quicker.
 
I had to reply to this. I also got into clonazolam via etizolam. I started taking etizolam, and got where no amount.of it worked very quickly. Then I found clonazolam. I started out taking at least 1. Mg a day, and when I finally quit (I ran out of my last 90 in about 4 days) I thought I was gonna die. I tried to cold turkey at home, I already lost 2 jobs to it. On day 8 I still hadn't slept, I had crazy seizures and didn't know if I was awake or asleep I was completely fucked. I went to the e.r. and they gave me a whole bottle of 2 mg.clonazepam. I did not abuse them, it saved me I could have died they said if I didn't come in. I would never touch clonazolam or any fast acting benzo ever again, including etizolam the thieno...
 
Benzodiazepine withdrawal is life or death, fortunately the e.r. here was super cool about it. They took my word that clonazepam would probably get me off it. For booze, I dunno if you had d.t.s and went to an e.r. I'm pretty sure they are bound to give you at least Chlordiazepoxide whic would do the trick if having absolutely 0 rec. potential.
 
Here in Australia i doubt a doctor would give you a script and let you detox at home. If you present to the Emergency Dept looking for a script they wont give you one either but they will let you stay in hospital and detox under supervision. We get patients all the time in the ward i work on with issues with alcohol and we do manage their withdrawals with valium to make sure they dont have seizures. Alcohol withdrawals are not to be taken lightly and should be dealt with in a healthcare environment.
 
@Johnnyboy369 - Jesus Christ man, that sounds horrible (perhaps an understatement), lucky your doc took your word for it. If I were you I wouldn't go near ANY benzo again (which I'm not, but for other reasons to you), it sounds frightening having seizures and the part you wrote '... didn't know if I was awake or asleep...'.
 
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