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chances of getting a short term benzo script for alcohol withdrawals?

I think you're chances are pretty high , I don't know for certain because I've never had an alcohol addiction.
But if you think that might not work just say you're catching a plane and you have a fear of flying and you have a job interview and get real nervous , that will get you a short term script if the doctor isn't a asshole :)
 
Slim to none. Unless you're in hospital and going through withdrawal, you've no chance.
 
If you're in the UK, I think you will have pretty good chances with an experienced GP. He or she will probably want you to have some kind of supervision, such as family or partner, that can look after you if you're planning to do a home detox.

It's probably unlikely and unadvisable if you have a severe dependency.

He or she will probably take into account other factors such as mental health, previous substance abuse and past medical history, before making that decision.
 
Wenlock said:
Slim to none. Unless you're in hospital and going through withdrawal, you've no chance.
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This ^ it has to be done under supervision in hospital and they have to give you massive thiamine injections etc. It does work, and it only takes a few days or a week (been thru it myself). But they won't let you do it at home.
 
Librium is first choice for booze WD'S BUT normally only under superbvison e'g in patient detox/private rehab. It may be possible but it's a talk you'll need to have with your GP in the first instance - tis a very strong benzo with a fair amount needed to counteract the WD'S hence the supervision as it does do what high doses of benzos do...
 
yeah they started me off on something like 120mg of diazepam a day, I basically can't remember 90% of my stay in hospital, but I was down to 10mg a day when I was discharged and over 6 months got it down to zero.
 
Not sure how it is in Europe, but I have seen this happen multilple times with g.p.'s here in the states. It comes down to the specific dr.'s trust in that patient, view on drugs/addiction and so on. Alot of docs will be scared the patient will end up mixing the benzos and alcohol, which could be very bad/possibly fatal and could potentially come back on the prescribing doc. For this reason alot of doctors will just advise the patient to go inpatient detox.
 
Has anyone else really abused alcohol and had no withdrawal symptoms, even when stopping cold turkey? I've never had any withdrawals, after the hangover, even when I was on 2-300 units a week. I was taking pregabalin, and a low dose of diazepam, throughout, but I have a feeling that some people just never get withdrawals from booze.

I'm prescribed diazepam, and have been for a good five years, and my doctor knows about my past with alcohol. It depends on the doctor that you see...
 
At my worst, I was drinking close to 100/120 units a day. Stopping was always easy, and I'd have nothing but what I'd call, a bad hangover. The shakes for a day due to mild alcohol poisoning, sick but only bringing up bile, and the squits.

After day two, or three if it was a bender, I'd be back to normal.

I've never experienced a headache after drinking. I know some people get terrible headaches, different strokes and all that.

And Treacle, you can't say you don't suffer withdrawal if you're banging blues and painkillers.

That's like saying I chopped my toe off but it didn't hurt me, but I am on ketamine and heroin.
 
I tend to get a headache if I drink wine, especially rose or red. I'm not sure, Hexy, but I wishbyou all the best. I would be worried, in your case about benzos because of how you've recently felt - in connection with the potential for them to be addictive. There are things especially for weaning off alcohol. Have you looked into them or maybe you can ask someone if they'd dish out, short term, the benzos to you? Ask the person to go with you to the GP n maybe s/he would let you have them that way?

Wishing you all the very best, Hexy <3

Evey
 
Treacle said:
Has anyone else really abused alcohol and had no withdrawal symptoms, even when stopping cold turkey? I've never had any withdrawals, after the hangover, even when I was on 2-300 units a week. I was taking pregabalin, and a low dose of diazepam, throughout, but I have a feeling that some people just never get withdrawals from booze.

I'm prescribed diazepam, and have been for a good five years, and my doctor knows about my past with alcohol. It depends on the doctor that you see...
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Yeah all I've ever had is cravings, slight anxiety and shakes. Nothing like coming off benzos.

Hex given the fact you OD'd on GBL last week there is no chance they will prescribe you diazepam I don't think. They wouldn't prescribe me it when I was coming off shorter acting benzos, as they said they couldn't prescribe me drugs with abuse potential when I'd already been abusing similar drugs. You'll probably find they offer you some rehab/behaviour therapy.
 
How bad are your withdrawals? If you need benzos to guard against seizures or freakouts then you'll probably want additional clincal attention anyway (tests for liver function, vitamin deficiencies etc).

Last time I quit booze I was detoxing at home and was given a lot of oxazepam --150mg daily-- even though I was in a bad shape by then with a wrecked liver, fully fried nervous system, twitching, palpitations and arrhythmia etc, was also acting rather psychotic. That wasn't a very good idea :/ if you have a serious habit I recommend not quitting at home ,at least not on your own.
 
Treacle said:
Has anyone else really abused alcohol and had no withdrawal symptoms, even when stopping cold turkey? I've never had any withdrawals, after the hangover, even when I was on 2-300 units a week. I was taking pregabalin, and a low dose of diazepam, throughout, but I have a feeling that some people just never get withdrawals from booze.

I'm prescribed diazepam, and have been for a good five years, and my doctor knows about my past with alcohol. It depends on the doctor that you see...
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Hmm, the pregabalin may play a role there. Pregabalin seems to relieve GABA (-A and -B) withdrawal in many people and it also reduces alcohol craving by inhibiting "substance P" release (which also reduces excitotoxicity caused by WD).
 
yes if you were taking pregabalin and benzos that would have helped the symptoms. Still, it is worth noting that alcohol withdrawal can kill people and you're far more likely to succeed with it in a managed clinical setting in a hospital or rehab clinic.
 
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Hmm, the pregabalin may play a role there. Pregabalin seems to relieve GABA (-A and -B) withdrawal in many people and it also reduces alcohol craving by inhibiting "substance P" release (which also reduces excitotoxicity caused by WD).
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Yeah that's right pregabalin does inhibit both substance P and also glucagon (IIRC), Also while it isn't actually a GABA agonist it appears to relieve withdrawals caused by gabergenic drugs like benzos and alcohol and helps with opiate withdrawl to a degree although mainly due to its anti anxiolitic effects. IME pregabalin, cloninidine and a long acting benzo such as diazepam seems to be the best combination of meds to combat opiate withdrawl short of introducing another opiate drug such as methadone, bupe, Ioperamide etc. IME introducing any opioid to combat opioid withdraw is totally counterproductive no matter what the drug as it's basically just going back on to opiates which while will temporarily help is just going backwards. It's a shame more isn't known about pregabalins actual mode of action as it's such a novel drug. Apparently not as safe as was first thought though and contrary to what is often claimed about it can magnify respiratory depression when incluhded in a cocktail of drugs.
 
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You will have to jump through hoop after hoop but ye you should be able to get a taper to help with withdrawals from a local drug/alcohol clinic. Obviously you need to be serious about quitting and they may insist on you attending the clinic everyday to assess you.
 
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