you're an extremist, and you're xenophobic. this "ad hom" isn't a logical fallacy like ad hominems usually are... it's the truth.
we could address your facts with our facts, but the meaning/interpretation/model would not be conveyed. which is why the xenophobic extremism is relevant to the debate.
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You want some logic, I'll make it simple... how about
Argumentum Ad Ignorantium- Since science can't disprove genetics or heredity causes homosexuality... the opposite must be true
Post hoc/False Cause fallacy they can't help themseves since their born that way just like other minority ethnic group...and sex urges are too overwhelming to control.... they have no choice and everyone else should embrace their lifestyle including govt intervention and schools...etc
Appeal to pity... poor gays they can't help who they are since the APA reclassified their code. APA altered their opinions and now says their behavior is OK... so everyone else should. It doesn't matter that gays stacked the [committe] deck with homosexual psychiatrists [at least 11 out of 17] and gay advovates bullied these wimps to change the DSM codes.
lets look at the committe list who was to make the APA vote. According to the "17 individuals, both straight and gay" were on the list. AT LEAST 11 of 17were homosexuals. Talk about stacking a deck. These are just those who could be confirmed... there're are probably at least a couple more?? 11 of 17 is plenty though.
++Dr. John Fryer, who disguised his identity to speak before the APA’s annual meeting in 1972 on the discrimination gay psychiatrists faced in their own profession
++Dr. Charles Silverstein, who saw the diagnosis of homosexuality as a means of social control
++ Dr. Lawrence Hartmann, who helped reform the APA and later served as its President in 1991-92
Dr. Robert J. Campbell, who helped persuade the APA’s Nomenclature Committee to hear scientific data presented by gay activists
Dr. Judd Marmor, an early psychoanalytic critic of theories that pathologized homosexuality
Dr. Robert Spitzer, who chaired the APA’s Nomenclature Committee
++Dr. Frank Rundle, who helped organize the first meeting of what would become the APA Caucus of Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Psychiatrists
++Dr. David Kessler, AGLP President from 1980-82
++Dr. Nanette Gartrell, a pioneer of feminist issues within the APA
++Dr. Stuart Nichols, President of the AGLP in 1983-84 and a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Psychiatrists of New York (GLPNY)
++Dr. Emery Hetrick, a founding member of both AGLP and GLPNYDr. Bertram Schaffner, who was instrumental in providing group psychotherapy for physicians with AIDS
++Dr. Martha Kirkpatrick, a long-time leader in psychiatry and psychoanalysis, both as a woman and an “out” lesbian
++Dr. Richard Isay, the first openly gay psychoanalyst in the American Psychoanalytic Association
Dr. Richard Pillard, best known for studying the incidence of homosexuality in families of twins
Dr. Edward Hanin, former Speaker of the APA Assembly
++Dr. Ralph Roughton, the first openly gay Training and Supervising Psychoanalyst to be recognized within the American and International Psychoanalytic Associations
++ Homosexual
Without the commitee recomendation their would never have been a vote among the APA to change the dsm codes. The hijacking of science in the APA by those advocating homosexuality has now taken a very interesting twist. Thirty years later after this decision by the APA, Robert L. Spitzer, M.D. who was instrumental in the removal of homosexuality in 1973 from the lists of sexual disorders in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual is once again facing the anger of others. The first time was by those who opposed the normalization of homosexuality. Now after publishing the results of a study showing that some people may change their sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual, it is those advocating for homosexuality.
Spitzer, M.D., Robert L. “Reply: Study Results Should Not be Dismissed and Justify Further Research on the Efficacy of Sexual Reorientation Therapy.” Archives of Sexual Behavior
Dr. Ronald Bayer, a pro-homosexual psychiatrist has described what actually occurred in his book, Homosexuality and American Psychiatry: The Politics of Diagnosis. (1981)
In Chapter 4, "Diagnostic Politics: Homosexuality and the American Psychiatric Association," Dr. Bayer says that the first attack by homosexual activists against the APA began in 1970 when this organization held its convention in San Francisco. Homosexual activists decided to disrupt the conference by interrupting speakers and shouting down and ridiculing psychiatrists who viewed homosexuality as a mental disorder. In 1971, homosexual activist Frank Kameny worked with the Gay Liberation Front collective to demonstrate against the APA's convention. At the 1971 conference, Kameny grabbed the microphone and yelled, "Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a declaration of war against you."
Homosexuals forged APA credentials and gained access to exhibit areas in the conference. They threatened anyone who claimed that homosexuals needed to be cured.
Kameny had found an ally inside of the APA named Kent Robinson who helped the homosexual activist present his demand that homosexuality be removed from the DSM. At the 1972 convention, homosexual activists were permitted to set up a display booth, entitled "Gay, Proud and Healthy."
Kameny was then permitted to be part of a panel of psychiatrists who were to discuss homosexuality. The effort to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the DSM was the result of power politics, threats, and intimidation, not scientific discoveries.
Phobic?? OK since we're getting into fears/hate name calling.... I'll bring some reality to your demented thought and beliefs. We'll do it kinda like a short version of a Billy Joel song...
You're a
Christianophobe, heterophobe, Phronemophobe, theophobe, ecclesiophobe, angrophobe, psychophobe, chrometophobe, conservephobe, allodoxaphobe, successophobe, hylephobe, zeusophobe, orthophobe, agliophobe, hagiophobe...etc... We didn't start the fire It was always burning ...Since the world's been turning
I could go further this about covering your phobic bullshit. But I've reached the conclusion this is a waste of my time since you & your pals will never understand you've been brainwashing and have no idea where it's taking you. However, it's somewhere along the lines of
Panophobia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYSq4emHsYA
