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Haha yeah baccy and eucalyptus is odd. It use to be sold at gas stations in the States as "beedies". Weird.

And to answer your question about running joints: For a well rolled legal spliff, canoeing can still happen (not often, but still happens). The skill of the roller will only go so far. This is because of the natural oils present in marijuana are so abundant (for top shelf of course), that no matter how well you prepare and roll a joint you are always going to get these oils that seep down the paper causing an inconsistency of burning.

I will say that adding tobacco to the best rolled legal spliff WILL make it burn better. It doesn't matter how good of a roller you are, adding baccy will make it better for burning, making "canoeing" A LOT less likely.


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You know, the pre-rolled joints were suspect to me when I was in Seattle. They were cheaper than packaged grams. The price discrepancy made no sense to me. I figured if anything, a 1g pre-rolled joint would be more expensive than the 1g used to roll the joint, but nope, in every case the joints were cheaper.

Made me start thinking it wasn't just cannabis in there. I didn't ask about it, though, which I probably should have....
It's easy for them to use shake or popcorn buds in pre-rolls so you are right to be suspect. ALWAYS SUSPECT!!! It's the only way quality gets better.
 
yeah bro i have a full on accent to you guys.

check this vid out if you wanna hear what we sound like, however just like in england there are the "proper accents" and the "common accents", i tend to speak properly but with my distinct accent.

i've never seen this video but i'll assume it'll give you an idea of how we speak.



That's awesome. Being a weird white guy myself, foreign-sounding accents make a person like 10x cooler the second they speak.


For the record, I'm probably going to read every post of yours in Biggs' voice from Shottas from now on. It just can't be helped.




It's easy for them to use shake or popcorn buds in pre-rolls so you are right to be suspect. ALWAYS SUSPECT!!! It's the only way quality gets better.


That..... actually makes a lot of sense. It's probably tougher for them to sell that stuff, so might as well roll it up and sell for less when the alternative is not selling it at all.


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In regards to growing mate just do it, and don't fucking look back. It can be a struggle at first, a bit expensive to set up, and the first few problems you encounter you will over react to if you are anything like me, after that it is smooth sailing. You gotta pop a few beans to find fire, but being so close to DC which just legalised maybe you can get access to some sweet cuts and avoid the pheno hunting game all together. It feels good to have more weed than you need, which cost you fuck all, didn't fatten the pockets of any shady individuals and contains nothing that you didn't intentionally fucking put in it. It is a little bit like picking magic mushrooms, once you figure out how to do it you realise just how badly you have been getting fucked.



The only thing preventing me is my living arrangement. It's just too risky... someone eventually is going to see them that's not supposed to and fuck if I know what their reaction would be.

I've actually got a nice collection of highgrade bagseed. That once-in-a-blue-moon-type shit where you find a single seed in a half of Headband, or OG Kush, or Blue Dream? Yeaaaah, I've been saving them bitches for years now. I don't have 'em labelled anymore but they're all from, in my opinion, high-grade buds and I only saved the ones that looked extra ripe with defined stripes/streaks and whatnot. Got 17 of 'em at last count. Just waiting for the right time to put 'em in some dirt.
 
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I think the zig-zag papers in the UK are probably different to yours. Here they're just a cheaper alternative to Rizla & virtually the same, but with a bit more gum. There's hardly any difference between silver zig-zags & silver rizla, but king size rizla are 2 packs for £1 & king size zig-zag are 3 for £1. Main problem is zig-zag don't include any card for tips & they glue the packet together so less tips possible from that.

sounds strange to me, the zig zags we get here are even shorter than normal cigs. it's the sort of ghastly last-ditch product that head shops won't even sell and is only ever bought if someone really wants to roll a joint immediately and the only shops left open are the convenience stores :S


Never heard tobacco called batch, that is interesting. Over here a lot of people refer to it as spin, but I tend to just call it tobacco, baccy or ciggie. I can't stand using rolling tobacco in joints, which is funny because I actually used to prefer it. Now I just rip open cigarettes and use the tobacco from them to roll with. I avoid cheap brand cigarettes because they taste shitter, and they also seem to have a lot of woody bits in them, by the time you pick all that shite out you aren't even saving money compared to buying decent cigs to mix.

yeah heard of all kinds of names for tobacco, i think batch is mostly an east-coast canada sort of thing. old habits...

Most blunts I have smoked have been rolled with blunt wraps, all tobacco is super expensive in Australia, but particularly cigars. It is ridiculously cost prohibitive to buy actual cigars to gut and then re roll a blunt with on a regular basis. Add the fact that we don't commonly get any of the brands which are traditionally used for rolling blunts over here and it really makes things difficult. I got my hands on White Owls a few times, but they had a tendency to be dry and weren't the easiest to work with. I will say I do prefer it with a gutted cigar shell than with using those artificial wraps. I have had a roll of "Brown Sugar" blunt wraps for a couple years now and only used them like 3 times.

blah, stale blunt cigars are the worst! i spose i never considered supply to be a problem, here if you walk into any corner store there will be a few brands of $1-2 blunt cigars, some dutch rillos and a humidor cabinet with some well-plumed habanos.
 
R.I.P. Mitch HedbergI'm planning on smoking up soon. I haven't smoked weed in 3 years. I am looking forward to it. I got some weed from a friend who got it from a random stranger lolGoing to roll it up into a joint. Hope my rolling skills haven't gone rusty.
 
waiting on a qtr. been blowing thru this PA bud like mad. visited my buddys grave today, its been 1 year since he od'ed today. he passed while i was living in seattle last summer. i visited where i live in PA last summer and he died two months before i would get here.

i got my qtr. it was only 5 g's. i called him and he said he would make it straight. hes an old head and i think he said he uses a spring scale thats prolly fucked up. idk tho, with the bag it weighed 7. maybe hes weighing with the bag. maybe hes trying to rip ppl off or like he claims he didnt know. he was nice on the phone and said to stop by whenever and he will make it right. i almost want to buy him a cheap 20 buck scale so everything is right in the future. seriously tho u think he would know what hes doing. i saw his stash all bagged up and it looked like a few oz's. hes gotta kno somethings up. other ppl had to of bitched.
 
Haha yeah baccy and eucalyptus is odd. It use to be sold at gas stations in the States as "beedies". Weird.

And to answer your question about running joints: For a well rolled legal spliff, canoeing can still happen (not often, but still happens). The skill of the roller will only go so far. This is because of the natural oils present in marijuana are so abundant (for top shelf of course), that no matter how well you prepare and roll a joint you are always going to get these oils that seep down the paper causing an inconsistency of burning.

It is really weird but interesting that was a commercially available product, I wonder who came up with it...

You make an interesting point about the oils in cannabis being the reason straight joints are more likely to run. That makes a lot of sense and I suspect you are on to something there.

The only thing preventing me is my living arrangement. It's just too risky... someone eventually is going to see them that's not supposed to and fuck if I know what their reaction would be.

I've actually got a nice collection of highgrade bagseed. That once-in-a-blue-moon-type shit where you find a single seed in a half of Headband, or OG Kush, or Blue Dream? Yeaaaah, I've been saving them bitches for years now. I don't have 'em labelled anymore but they're all from, in my opinion, high-grade buds and I only saved the ones that looked extra ripe with defined stripes/streaks and whatnot. Got 17 of 'em at last count. Just waiting for the right time to put 'em in some dirt.

Yeah I am pretty fortunate with my current living arrangement, don't know what I will do when I have to move. Hopefully I can stock up enough to last me while I suss out setting something up. Luckily it is a few years before I got to worry about that...

There are stealth grow options that can be pretty viable for some people, but obviously I have no idea what your living arrangement is like.

It is cool you got all that nice bag seed saved up, that shit could come in real handy one day. However, it is important to remember that indoor weed generally only has seeds in it if something in the room threw some bananas and the plants you grow from those seeds might be prone to hermie. I have grown from bag seed and most were fine, but a couple went straight herm on me.

I have had pretty good luck buying seeds from reputable breeders. Hit a couple duds in my time, but if you do the research more often than not you can find something really nice. I am really jealous of those who live in legal States, who can purchase elite cuttings and grow straight fire with solid yields without having to put in the time to find it.

blah, stale blunt cigars are the worst! i spose i never considered supply to be a problem, here if you walk into any corner store there will be a few brands of $1-2 blunt cigars, some dutch rillos and a humidor cabinet with some well-plumed habanos.

Man you don't even wanna know what cigars cost here, at my local tobacconist the cheapest little cigarillo I can buy costs more than the price you stated, and you can only get about half a gram in there once you gut it. There aren't many specialty cigar stores in the suburbs in Australia because the things are so damn expensive. You pretty much just go to tobacconists to buy them, and not that many of them use humidors.

It is lucky I am not partial to blunts, because this is a shitty Country to be in if you are...
 
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sounds strange to me, the zig zags we get here are even shorter than normal cigs. it's the sort of ghastly last-ditch product that head shops won't even sell and is only ever bought if someone really wants to roll a joint immediately and the only shops left open are the convenience stores :S

Clearly they're different here. King sized silver zig-zags are (only) sold in 3 packs in 'everything is £1' shops. They're about the cheapest king sized papers that stick together, those & bull brand (another pound shop special). Head shops wont sell them, head shops want to charge £1 for one packet. They're good enough.

A bad workman always blames his tools.

As for high quality weed causing canoeing, I've never heard such nonsense in my life. Oil burns well. Bad rolling causes canoeing, or terrible weed that is too wet to burn. Good weed burns well, it wouldn't be good weed if it didn't. If you don't fuck it up then those oils should coat the paper evenly & it'll burn fine.
 
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I've made and smoked my first blunt. Pleasant high, provided by strong black hash mixed in a vanilla cigarillo. Band aided the holes with some gum from my trusted Rizla Micron papers, lol.

Trick is to empty totally the cigarillo and put back minimal tobacco. Add hash and here you go.

Will def smoke again.
 
What? Oil joints are fine. Most of the oil vaporizes off before it burns, so even with a line of oil added to one side of the paper the joint will still burn evenly.

Most of the time canoeing is caused by some crease in the paper. If you roll it properly it will burn properly. Sucking too hard can make it worse too.

But, there's no need for joints now, or oil really, smoking sucks, it's unhealthy, it's wasteful & it makes you smell bad, here...

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I'm smoking a spliff in my parents house (well it's still my house too)... but it's been a while.
OCB papers ftw, pretty much all i use to roll my joints
 
^ That's cool that you can chill, smoking a spliff at your parents place.

So before I started using filters in my joints, I used roached clips. I have recently discovered that I have a small collection of roach clips that I've saved over the years. I was reminded after going through all my papers and I found a Randy's rolling paper in there lol THAT shit is old. I'll try any paper once though.

One is basic clip that looks like a hairpin.

Another is a guitar (size of paper clip) shape and is simply bad ass. The fret board is the clip. The body of the guitar is for holding with your thumb and pointer finger. I've somehow managed to hold onto this clip for 20 years now.

Another clip is a scorpion that stands on it's own feet and the tip of it's tail is the actual roach clip. This design was made so you can place your spliff down anywhere without the need for an ashtray or the worry of the roach burning down your house. For this reason, I actually still use this roach clip. And it's a fucking scorpion, so it's pretty bad ass as well.
 
If you are outside hiking or something. Otherwise an oil rig will win every time.

A small glass oil pipe might be more efficient. I was just saying that oil doesn't affect how evenly a joint burns, even if extra oil is added all down one side of a joint it wont cause it to canoe.

Sadly oil is still as rare as rocking horse shit here in the UK & I stopped smoking. Have a suck on this herb vaporizer & a drink of this cannabis infused milk... Pass me that dab rig.

I prefer good solvent-free hash over oil anyway, it's got more flavour. I just need to hassle my grower friend into making some bubble hash & sharing it.
 
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I've made and smoked my first blunt. Pleasant high, provided by strong black hash mixed in a vanilla cigarillo. Band aided the holes with some gum from my trusted Rizla Micron papers, lol.

Trick is to empty totally the cigarillo and put back minimal tobacco. Add hash and here you go.

Will def smoke again.


The trick with blunts is not to use the tobacco you gut from them.



ugh


Glad you enjoyed it, though!
 
A small glass oil pipe might be more efficient.
It's becoming very obvious to me that you have never tried a proper dab.

Dabbing oil has become so popular that we needed to another holiday to talk about it, July 10th. And people don't sit around on that day with a glass dick in their hand. They have a dab rig instead.

I'm sorry that the UK doesn't provide you with easy access to high quality dabbing, but it's something you really need to try before you knock it.

And by the way, I've actually tried dabbing oil with a glass DICK like you are so hot over. It's HORRIBLE. Total waste.


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I prefer good solvent-free hash over oil anyway, it's got more flavour.
More evidence that you have never dabbed before.

Oil does not imply solvent.
 
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