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Causes of different effects from Indica and Sativa

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I recently watched a video about THC and cannabinoids, and how each of them have a different effect. When THC, alone, was administered through an IV the women said she was beginning to feel panicky, that the entire world was against her, and other typical marijuana-related freakout signs. However, when she was administered both THC and cannabinoids together, she was laughing uncontrollably and looked like how we typically think people would look after smoking.

What I was thinking is that strains that of an indica type contain a higher cannabinoid to THC ratio than the strains from the sativa type, and sativa strains contain a higher THC to cannabinoid ratio.

If anyone has anything to add to this, or sees any flaws about my theory than let me know, or if this topic has been covered already than mods feel free to close this.
 
was this the stupid english woman?
if so then you cant take that video seriously at all. her "studies" were not carried out scientifically at all,
so much that the entire "documentary" can be completely disregarded.







but alas, i digress-
your "theory" is the usual in cannabis, ie you're right.
Indicas are usually more CBD , with Sativas being more THC usually.

although you can get a more "thc-ish" high by harvesting your buds early, when the pistils (hairs) are milky. more amber pistils indicates that the THC in the trichomes has degraded into CBD.

when discussing the effects and causes in cannabis, one has to also take into account Terroir.


someone on here posted an EXCELLENT thread on Terroir=

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=458663&highlight=terroir



get ready for a BIG read.
 
Thanks, Sega. LOFL, and yeah it was an english woman. Somebody on here posted a link to the video that I saw about a month ago, but I really didn't give it much thought up until now. Apparently my "theory" is common knowledge. I didn't read the entire thread on Terroir, but I got the jist of it. I guess there are many variables that go into what makes a strain different other than just THC and CBD quantity.

What this has me thinking now is what factors go into making mids so horrible, at least IMO. There's probably a thread on this already, and if so please direct me to it, but I think what I put into the search is too specific or something. I smoke all day, everyday, but I really don't know shit about it, so please bear with me.

I've realized that when I smoke mids/lows I get a much dirtier high, and what I mean by that is I have an uncomfortable feeling AKA anxiety, and I feel like it gives me a more mindfucked feeling. Whereas with highs it's a much cleaner high, and the complete opposite of mids/lows. Like you said, you can get a more "THC-ish" high by harvesting early. So do they harvest the lows/mids early and don't leave them to dry long enough (at least this how what it seems for all the mids I've gotten...the buds seem a bit wet, or not as crumbly) making the buds much higher in THC which causes the "dirty high" feeling i was describing earlier?
 
Here's a question. Sega raised this is in a way, but ill probably get a better answer by asking.

The metabolic pathways that produce THC, do they go from CBD (structural isomer) or how is it produced?
 
@shienar, you mean metabolism in humans or the plant itself?


and Rollin_Stoned, i get that with mids too, but i find it has mainly been due to them being hydro.
i get the extremely uncomfortable freakyness high too.
mids are usually grown in commercial amounts, usually hydro (thus being more potent, usually)
whereas headies/high grade tend to be grown for connoiseurs, by connoiseurs, and so tend to be organic, as most connoiseurs of fine Cannabis will agree, organic, soil grown cannabis tastes/is best.


i guess it could be different for different people.
what freaks me and you out might be a mellow smoke for someone else
 
Yeah your theory is right.

But ill throw it in there, that you can adjust your highs by the timing of your harvest.

For example, you could grow and Indica and harvest it a bit early and it will give you more of a head high, just like a Sativa would.The same goes with Sativa, you can let it go abit longer there for the THC will breakdown into CBD and give an Indica buzz feeling.
 
Wise420 said:
Yeah your theory is right.

But ill throw it in there, that you can adjust your highs by the timing of your harvest.

For example, you could grow and Indica and harvest it a bit early and it will give you more of a head high, just like a Sativa would.The same goes with Sativa, you can let it go abit longer there for the THC will breakdown into CBD and give an Indica buzz feeling.
Click to expand...

There was a wicked pic on Overgrow that actually showed the trichomes in the various states needed to produce the affects you mentioned.

If anyone has that pic can you please post it? It's a terrible shame that we lost Overgrow.
 
This isn't the exact one I was talking about but it will do the job

NSFW:
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@verybuffed....that's extremely interesting, lol, i never knew that type of shit. So would that be why Sativa strains are white and Indica strains are orangish? At least that's how i've always seen it.
 
The amount of CBD produced by degradation of THC is fairly low, CBN is the main product of the decomposition of THC. I thought that amber pistils were an indicator of CBD, but apparently this isn't the case. They're not even a good indicator of high CBN levels. There's a discussion about it in this thread.
If you can't be asked to read it, it turns out that, contrary to what we all thought, a lot of Indica strains aren't particularly heavy on the CBD. My guess is that CBN isn't active alone but modulates the effects of THC on some way, that's pure speculation though.

Yeah, THC is biosynthesised from CBD. There's a description in this thread, which is also interesting reading about the role of different cannabinoids in creating different highs from indicas and sativas. This guy seems to go along with the CBD theory, but I'm inclined to go with blowmonkey. He also thinks that THCV is responsible for the sedating effects of hash, which is interesting because I always thought that THCV was caused a quicker, more intense, shorter high, and was responsible for the short-lived intense high that a lot of weed seems to have.

So basically, I made a big long post to conclude that I have no idea. Hopefully someone who can talk about this with any kind of authority will pop in.
 
I have been thinking about what yo usaid about THCV - and as far as I know there aren't a lot of plants that actually produce it - AFAIK, the only plants I've heard that produce it were found in the Transkei region of RSA (South Africa) - and I know for a fact pretty much growing wild in RSA is sativa sativa sativa - so I would agree with you about the more intense shorter high.

I always thought (to answer the OP) that CBD-heavy strains were bred particularly for the sedating effects for medical cannabis patients, and that these plants were Indica-dom/pure Indicas. Hmm...
 
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