If everyone arrested for drugs from this point on spoke out, protested, etc I think it would work fucking wonders. It's sad even as a group, drug use as it lies now, illegally, tends to isolate people from one another, even other drug users from another, so its def. a hard thing to accomplish. Think how long it took to bring marijuana to the medical use it rightfully deserves...
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Can't relate to sober people
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If everyone arrested for drugs from this point on spoke out, protested, etc I think it would work fucking wonders. It's sad even as a group, drug use as it lies now, illegally, tends to isolate people from one another, even other drug users from another, so its def. a hard thing to accomplish. Think how long it took to bring marijuana to the medical use it rightfully deserves...
GodSpeedK
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I have a lot more respect for sober people who've conquered their demons or at least went through an experimental phase, rather than those who have never tried anything except maybe a bit of alcohol. You have to be pretty fucking boring if you've never got high. Even David Cameron smoked a bit of ganja at Eton.
edit: weird how you don't have any hobbies. I swear that's pretty much impossible. Watching films can be considered a hobby.
edit: weird how you don't have any hobbies. I swear that's pretty much impossible. Watching films can be considered a hobby.
feralkitten
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I used to feel the exact same way. I just couldn't "get" people who didn't use any substances, I just found it vaguely off-putting, and if I did meet someone who cool but they didn't even drink I would unconsciously count it as a mark against them. In retrospect it's hard for me to believe how simplistic I was being about it, but I think it was also my subconscious insecurity about my own habits, because deep down I felt like I couldn't really enjoy myself without getting messed up and I guess I resented them for being able to.
To be honest the folks I've met in AA aren't exactly people who I have a lot in common with outside of our addictions, but I'm a dirt poor artist living in a wealthy suburb, it's not really a countercultural mecca and there aren't that many people here who necessarily share my worldview, sober or otherwise. But the folks in AA have still been there for me, even if we're not going to be bffs. But, thinking back to when I lived in places where there were more people I related to, I did actually know some cool recovering addicts and people who just straight up never really got into substances, I just didn't get to know them as well as I could have because of the aforementioned insecurity.
These days I'd rather be around people who aren't preoccupied with using. They don't have to be sober or recovering, it's just become unnappealing to me, it's not fun to me anymore. I never would have believed this 2 years ago and would have rolled my eyes at my own words, but my perspective on it is really different now. I don't mind if people use sometimes, I just don't enjoy being around people where it's like THE ONLY thing.
To be honest the folks I've met in AA aren't exactly people who I have a lot in common with outside of our addictions, but I'm a dirt poor artist living in a wealthy suburb, it's not really a countercultural mecca and there aren't that many people here who necessarily share my worldview, sober or otherwise. But the folks in AA have still been there for me, even if we're not going to be bffs. But, thinking back to when I lived in places where there were more people I related to, I did actually know some cool recovering addicts and people who just straight up never really got into substances, I just didn't get to know them as well as I could have because of the aforementioned insecurity.
These days I'd rather be around people who aren't preoccupied with using. They don't have to be sober or recovering, it's just become unnappealing to me, it's not fun to me anymore. I never would have believed this 2 years ago and would have rolled my eyes at my own words, but my perspective on it is really different now. I don't mind if people use sometimes, I just don't enjoy being around people where it's like THE ONLY thing.
bdomihizayka
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I have been clean and sober from all hard drugs for quite some time, but still allow myself to drink moderately on the weekend. I personally cannot relate to people who have never used cocaine, heroin, meth, hallucinogenics, etc. These drugs, as evil and lovely and insidious as they are make you a new person and open your mind during and after using them.
Try telling somebody who's never used that heroin feels 10000x's better than sex, and them look at you like you're nuts. Good for them; they never used.... but I need, and do hang out with recovering addicts; for like yous are all saying, they can relate with me and my past experiences unlike anyone else. Recovering addicts help keep me clean more than people who have never tried drugs in their life.
Try telling somebody who's never used that heroin feels 10000x's better than sex, and them look at you like you're nuts. Good for them; they never used.... but I need, and do hang out with recovering addicts; for like yous are all saying, they can relate with me and my past experiences unlike anyone else. Recovering addicts help keep me clean more than people who have never tried drugs in their life.
Vaya
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OP, would you like me to move this thread to the Sober Living forum? I think, if you're looking for great insight on what there is in life that is appealing, but that does not involve drugs or alcohol, that forum seems like the perfect place!
If so, just send me a PM
If so, just send me a PM
TheAppleCore
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You need to simply spend more time with sober people. The fact that you feel you "can't relate to sober people" is a problem, and the only way you're going to fix that problem is with experience.
Don't worry about it. In fact, if you're like me, I think you'll eventually learn that interacting with people who are different than you are, and have different interests than you do, is a lot more stimulating and enlightening than hanging with people who do the same things you do.
Don't worry about it. In fact, if you're like me, I think you'll eventually learn that interacting with people who are different than you are, and have different interests than you do, is a lot more stimulating and enlightening than hanging with people who do the same things you do.