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Can't do this anymore, roxycontin withdrawal...

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natalia

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I have been taking "blues" which is roxycontin (30 mgs of oxy) for about two years now. Lately, I've been doing it everyday for the past couple of months and take about 90 mgs of roxy on my worst days. It has to stop. I make enough money to support me and my boyfriend no problem but we are barely scraping by due to my incessant obsession to have the roxys. They go for <snip> a pill around here and with the amounts I am doing (and him as well) soon we will have nothing.

It got to the point where I needed it first thing in the morning to give me energy and I'm just so lackluster with life, I don't want this anymore. I have tapped out all of my family members for money and I feel like I am 22 and failing in life. I don't have that spark for life or ambition to do anything at all unless I have my roxy. I used to have a scholarship for college and I was the Editor in Chief of my university newspaper, aspiring to be a law student. Now I don't even have the desire to pick up a book and study at all. This is the second day I am off of this terrible shit and I went to the dentist for an appoimntment because I have to get a tooth extracted so he prescribed me some antibiotics and percocet 5's (perc 5's to me are like tylenol with my tolerance).

Not wanting to erase all the progress I made, (when you feel like this 2 days clean is a big accomplishment in my eyes) I gave the perc's to my bf to hold so i don't abuse them. He is very responsible and really helping me, another reason why I feel so terrible is that he could stop no problem, but when he sees me trying to acquire the drugs and do them he caves in and does them too, so I have to stop for us as well as my well being. I have taken 4 perc 5's today to help with the toothache but I feel like I'm going backwards? My bf is dealing with this so much better, he doesn't get the physical symptoms like I do, maybe a little diarrhea and thats it.

Me on the other hand, I get hot/cold sweats, have goosebumps literally all day, and the RLS is driving me insane. I've tried some over the counter RLS medicine and it doesn't really help too much. i read on here maybe getting some valium would help to sleep? I have to be at work at 8 am every morning and can't afford to lose sleep. I've been looking for Drug Support centers or detoxes but I don't want to get on methadone or suboxene, i do not want to replace one drug for another. Plus I'm in new orleans and the drug rehab centers are a joke. Is this RLS permanent now?? I've never had it before I started taking opiates and I only get it when i don't have my roxies (withdrawal). Any helpful words? Any good remedies for the RLS? I know I can do this. The third day will be brighter...<3
 
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Well first off props on the 2 days clean and on being responsible with the percs thats a huge step!! Second the RLS will not be permanent if you stay off the opies it will go away in 4-6 days. You dont have a monster habit so I dont think your withdawls will last too terribly long and you are kind of tapering a little bit with the percs so that is a bonus. I would say get some benzos and ride that shit out. But remeber the real battle starts after the withdrawls your gonna need some support so be good to yourself eat healthy and have patience eventually things will be somewhat more normal.
 
thanks..

crimsonjunk your words really made me feel a lot better. Thanks. There is hope and I know I'm not alone.

As for tricomb, I just was thinking about taking some valium this weekend to sleep and be able to be well rested for work, not looking into doing them all the time, I already know that is not an option.
 
Hey nat if you chop up the paragraph some more people will be able to read and answer. <3 :) i am trying but its making my eyes hurt.
 
Maybe see a doctor who specializes in addiction medicine and he/she can help wean you off? Take it from me, I'm JUST getting off a five-year IV heroin/other opiate habit, 22 just like you, and I went to detox and came off a five year habit in two weeks by doing a quick suboxone taper and taking some muscle relaxers and non-narcotic sleep meds. That all helped soo much, and I wasn't on the Subs long enough to get addicted to something else like you said. I was doing a LOT of heroin though, so I needed the week of Subs. Maybe you could work out a good plan where you can get put on the right meds to help you out for right now? You don't have to stay on them. I'm off all the meds I was on in detox. It's been 5 years since I was able to say I haven't done heroin in 16 days. :)

Good luck to you!!
 
I am using suboxone and a small benzo dose that got me off dope and has kept me off it. I did it for financial reasons. I had to feel a real financial strain and play a lot of games before throwing in the towel. Same years back with coke. Had a 1/2 oz a week habit for a yr and a half. Used benzo's to get off that and it was actually harder, the psychological addiction to coke was terrible for me.

Think of it as a process, trial and error. And be honest with yourself. If you really want it, and have the motivation (like strong financial strain) eventually you may have to choose between loosing your house/apt and staying on the opiates, or switching to something more finacially manageable like suboxone or whatever works for you.

People love to feel good and hate pain. I think we are addicted to non pain (physical, emotional, whatever). Opiates are great for that. I find suboxone and a low benzo dose to work just fine for me. Took a few weeks to loose the cravings of whether or not I should choose dope over suboxone but now it's not a struggle. I've done dope like once and will probably do it again but things are much much better for me since I've been doing suboxone/klonopin self-maintenance rather than dope maintenance. If I was rich Id do dope maintenance but I'm not.
 
Hey, good news is that you came to the right place! BL is such a great place to ask questions like yours! Many of us have been through this thing called ADDICTION. I know I have! Better news: you CAN get over this! You just have to WANT it! Honestly, as long as you want to break your habit, you CAN <3

I would definitely suggest that you start looking into some sort of addiction specialists in your area. I found mine online (Suboxone doctor). Even if you don't want to go the Suboxone or Methadone route, there's many options. In fact, JUST taking Suboxone and Methadone alone will not help..those only do 10% of the work. You have to do most of the work. Its not easy, but its better than the suffering you're experiencing now! I promise. You should for sure seek professional help.

One more word of advice that I JUST applied to my life a week ago: do NOT put anyone before YOU. No matter what, you are the most important person. I know you love your boyfriend, but you both need to work on yourselves. Hey, my boyfriend and I used dope together throughout our entire one year together. When I got clean and he didn't, I started living for him..I worried for him and did everything for him to try to make him better. It didn't work. I had to give him up for someone more important: ME <3 it is so difficult, but you MUST do it. Things get better if you put in your work! Take care, sweetie<3
 
I just came in to mention something:

Roxycontin does not exist. You're referring to "Roxicodone" which is just a branding like Percocet to refer to the blue 30mg IR Oxycodone pills.

Contin is the ER suffix for Oxy medications, not IR. I'm surprised so many people who do Oxy make these kinds of mistakes, because IMO you should ALWAYS be aware of what you're putting into your body, whether it's IR or ER and what the language is like for both of your DoC.
 
Just like all those people out there who think "Oxycontin" is a drug and not a specific formulation of Oxycodone because of all the attention the former name gets in the media.
 
I know exactly how you feel...I switch on and off from a vicious IV dilaudid addiction. I do suboxone for about a week, then for the next two weeks I'll do dilaudids it's a vicious cycle.....
 
Hey. I hope you can continue through this until the worst is over. The RLS only lasts for a couple days. For some people, taking imodium helps ease some of the pain. I never believed it when I heard it, but I was withdrawing and decided to try it. It seemed to work for me, not sure if it was in my head or what. But you should really try to quit now. I started with using a couple roxys here and there...then started doing it a little more often...then to the point where I did it before work and at work, just to give me the energy. Then that escalated into a fullblown addiction. I was such a smart person, honest, a great worker. But things went downhill. When I couldnt get the pills, I tried heroin. Which in turn, I ended up majorly addicted to heroin. I stole from friends, family, coworkers, got arrested. And now I am still trying to get my addiction under control. It all started with the roxies. Yes, 2 days is a MAJOR accomplishment. You should be proud of yourself. You don't have much further to go until the worst is over.
 
One thing I will say about recommending W/D colt turkey from roxi (I don't remember how high your tolerance is, but if it's huge then use roxi to taper down to 15-30mg, then jump off and deal with the W/D. Oxycodone W/D aren't nearly as bad as other opiates, and if you can get through it you will thank me. Suboxone W/D is a nightmare, Methadone is the worst W/D, and Oxymorphone WD comes in second for worst.
 
RLS really blows--that is like the most intolerable part of withdrawal for me. Restless legs and arms flailing full force while trying to lie in a sweaty bed, with what feels like burlap potato sacks being scraped underneath your skin, back and forth; your mind making you feel like a psycho. Well anyway-OP, it'll be over soon-hope you get through this...you'll make it out on the other side- a stronger person! At least you get something minutely positive out of this whole HOT MESS!!!
 
Im coming off of heroin but it is a small dosage compared to you. You should probably take a few benzos for a max of three days which will help with sleep and mood, maybe some indica weed as well. When you can start slowly exercising to naturally make you happier and release endorphins which you really need. It is mostly all a mental game, trust me. Don't start dosing again, it will not cure anything.
 
XTCAKE said:
One more word of advice that I JUST applied to my life a week ago: do NOT put anyone before YOU. No matter what, you are the most important person. I know you love your boyfriend, but you both need to work on yourselves. Hey, my boyfriend and I used dope together throughout our entire one year together. When I got clean and he didn't, I started living for him..I worried for him and did everything for him to try to make him better. It didn't work. I had to give him up for someone more important: ME <3 it is so difficult, but you MUST do it. Things get better if you put in your work! Take care, sweetie<3
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This is a great point and tons of people continue a cycle of getting jammed up behind it for years and even decades. Depending on one's particular situation it my be co-dependence, which is an addiction of it's own and can wreak havvoc in people's lives.

People in that situation are essentially focusing on and worrying about someone else's situation (and justifying it one way or another in ways that are seemingly very valid) but if they are co-dependent what is happening is that 'the drug' is the other person and their problems and by focusing on that the 'addict' is avoiding dealing with their own life, their own problems. They are treating their problems by worrying about their loved one, which doesn't 'treat' their problems at all. It's like using dope to 'treat' bad circumstances in your life. It takes your mind off of them and alleviates the pain and anxiety associated with those circumstances... but does nothing to address the circumstances themselves. And it can be a vicious cycle just like addiction to a drug.
 
Hey there.

As I said in an other thread, I take 300mg of oxycodone a day (legally prescribed for pain) and I know I am completely dependant on it. I am not addicted as I don't think about it all the time, I don't need it to function or anything like that, it just takes my pain away and with the pain it is horrible.

Anyway, you are doing it a bit wrong. You say you take up to 90mg roxicodone on bad days, I'm going to assume you take 30mg on a good day. The best thing I can suggest you do is stop getting 30mg roxicodone pills and only get 10mg ones for a week or two and cut down to TWO 10mg roxicodone pills a day, one every 12 hours. This will make the withdrawal symptoms much more tolerable yet it is still a reduction and a step along the right path.

Then, after two weeks or so, cut down to two 5mg roxicodone pills a day, then after two weeks, cut down to one 5mg roxicodone pill a day, then a week later, cut down to none. This method takes a month or two BUT it means you are much more likely to succeed as your withdrawal symptoms are reduced a lot due to you having some roxicodone in your body. On the last week after you cut down to none you will suffer *some* withdrawal for a week or so but it will be VASTLY reduced and standard paracetamol (acetaminophen to you Americans) and sleep will help.

This is exactly the method I was guided through when I attended my pain clinic, I was taking 850mg of oxycodone a day, legally prescribed once again. Over two months I brought this down to 500mg a day. Then over another two months I brought it down to it's currently level of ~240-300mg a day. It takes time but it's much easier and you're much more likely to succeed. It's still bloody hard, but I had the choice of doing it via methadone or doing it by gradual dose reduction, and gradual dose reduction was the choice I made and I'm glad I did.

Don't go cold turkey, the chances of you succeeding are incredibly slim. Taper your dose like the example I've given above and I think it will be easier for you, it will still be hard, but easier than cold turkey! If you can get your partner to do it with you, all the better, doing it in a group/with a loved one always makes it easier if you both STICK TO IT. However, if he doesn't and he slips, then you need to keep on keeping on and finish the taper like I suggested above. If you think he's going to drag you back into it, get away from him. If he does slip and tries to drag you back in once you are clean a few months down the line, is he worth being with? I hope it doesn't come to that however! :).

Look forward to your reply. :).
 
TwistedReality said:
Maybe see a doctor who specializes in addiction medicine and he/she can help wean you off? Take it from me, I'm JUST getting off a five-year IV heroin/other opiate habit, 22 just like you, and I went to detox and came off a five year habit in two weeks by doing a quick suboxone taper and taking some muscle relaxers and non-narcotic sleep meds. That all helped soo much, and I wasn't on the Subs long enough to get addicted to something else like you said. I was doing a LOT of heroin though, so I needed the week of Subs. Maybe you could work out a good plan where you can get put on the right meds to help you out for right now? You don't have to stay on them. I'm off all the meds I was on in detox. It's been 5 years since I was able to say I haven't done heroin in 16 days. :)

Good luck to you!!
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I couldn't agree more. In this situation it seems completely viable that you could avoid a big part of the oxy WD. 2 years of moderate oxycodone use is manageable seeing that you're still young, and able to recover better as opposed to someone thats been on and off oxy,subs and methadone for 12 years... it gets harder every time. If you've never had suboxone before, then it should be very effective and shouldn't create any WD from short term use. It will also have the added bonus of taking away any temptation of using oxycodone while you taper with suboxone. The last thing you want is to get on methadone or suboxone long term... especially methadone.

i sometimes used to use up a monthly oxycontin script in a week. I wouldn't be able to get out of my bed and turn my pc on. But i could ride it out cold turkey by sleeping 15+ hours a day for 3-4 days and the worst would normally be over. Sounds like the percs helped and 2 days of feeling absolute shithouse IS an effort... I don't see any reason why you can't keep going if you're 2 days... I would be calling up work and telling them you're not coming in for a couple of days, and then you can suffer without anything to worry about. Either way, i hope you kick it sooner rather than later
 
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