Cannabis To Be Trialed in the Nimbin Valley

[TripppAR]

Course not...i guess they want to be beaten and arrested like ghandi also.


lol

 

[thestudent14]

He still won the war without anyone throwing a single punch.

 

[DiGiTaL-CoRRuPTioN]

tbtf?

sorry tweed byron task force / lac.

I got a call back from Nimbin police today by the way asking if I was involved at all (forgot to use 1831!).
And if I could name some names from the businesses that will be attempting this, I said I only read about it online and heard it through groups. which is true.

 

[Verybuffed]

sorry tweed byron task force / lac.

I got a call back from Nimbin police today by the way asking if I was involved at all (forgot to use 1831!).
And if I could name some names from the businesses that will be attempting this, I said I only read about it online and heard it through groups. which is true.

Can you PLEASE post your experience at the HEMP embassy forum? People really need to know that they are getting into if they attend.

 

[DiGiTaL-CoRRuPTioN]

Do you have to sign up?
I only sign up here because the servers are not in Australia.
I dont really want some guy in Nimbin with my IP address and email so when the cops raid their servers they get all my information.

I give permission for anyone to quote me.

 

[Verybuffed]

Do you have to sign up?
I only sign up here because the servers are not in Australia.
I dont really want some guy in Nimbin with my IP address and email so when the cops raid their servers they get all my information.

I give permission for anyone to quote me.

Fair enough.

 

[Verybuffed]

This is from MaxStone at the HEMP embassy forums:

Breaking news....

Due to impending changes in the personnel at Richmond Area Command and the Nimbin Police Stations this Cannabis Trial is delayed/ postponed /paused but DEFINITELY NOT CANCELED until sometime in December.

I have no idea why we are getting a new local area commander or any idea who is to become the Nimbin Station head and what changes this will make to 'how' cannabis is policed. Stay tuned.....


till next

peace




Following the metaphor further, I have stalled the engine and taken the blinkers off.

The vehicle sits on the starting line.

 

[Verybuffed]

I got a call back from Nimbin police today by the way asking if I was involved at all (forgot to use 1831!).
And if I could name some names from the businesses that will be attempting this, I said I only read about it online and heard it through groups. which is true.

Do you have to sign up?
I only sign up here because the servers are not in Australia.
I dont really want some guy in Nimbin with my IP address and email so when the cops raid their servers they get all my information.

I give permission for anyone to quote me.

How concerned are you about the cops having your number given how cautious you are with the internet?

 

[DiGiTaL-CoRRuPTioN]

Not very, as I usually talk in some type of extinct language to ex trippers so aone listening to my phone would know that

a) I talk about bringing in tonnes of cocaine in my anus just in case people are listening and havent done any illegal activity for a long time. b) I would sound like a fruitloop or c) They would hire me to crack the code of the dribble they hear from other drug users phones they collect in the underground coincidence command centre network.

 

[S.M.F.G]

I've now swayed towards Trippar's side of the arguement... Hope in this country is lost, this is either a money making effort on either side of the pro cannabis movement or L/E
Fuck nimbin and fuck all its reteric... the best we will ever get is decriminilasation.
Pisses me off greatly.

 

[Lovegrud]

^^ it's the best we can hope for, for now. Don't give up completely it's still quite evident that attitudes in younger people now days have changed a heap, and once the baby boomers die off we will hold the reigns. Sure we will be older but atleast we may live long enough to see change. never hurts to be optimistic

 

[phase_dancer]

Don't give up completely it's still quite evident that attitudes in younger people now days have changed a heap, and once the baby boomers die off we will hold the reigns. Sure we will be older but atleast we may live long enough to see change. never hurts to be optimistic

I'm playing the devils advocate a bit here, as well as offering something of an old bloke's view on things.

I'm a baby boomer, and once upon a time when we were in our teens and twenties, almost every young person I knew supported decriminalisation - some even rallied for it. Indeed, street marches weren't uncommon, and young supporters - those willing to stand up and be counted - were less worried about the consequences of advocating reform, even if such views were at odds with those of their contemporaries, parents or bosses.

But people grow older and their attitudes often change. With another 20-30 years of life experiences behind them, it will be interesting to see how many of the younger generation of today will still think as they once did, or at least admit it if they do

In tomorrows world, they will probably have even more to lose coming out in support of something that could be so frowned upon by society in general - the result of continual government propaganda, or legit scientific findings, or because of the incidence of emphysema in 30-40s bong smokers of the decades to come perhaps. The Baby Boomer equivalent of that time may feel more restricted because of their careers, multiple mortgages etc, or be reluctant because they fear that any such support would encourage their own kids to use, or even distance them if the kids' education has been an effective deterrent. Then there's "old people" peer pressure /risk of being ostracised (for some, even scarier at age 50 than at 15). Many will have also given up drugs by their 30s or 40s and many of these will tend to be less supportive, simply because the legal standing of pot won't directly affect them.

And fwiw, on so many levels I find young people today generally more conservative deep down, and I have to add, many are less than realistic about the challenges faced by future proponents of legislation. For example, among the large number of teens in our town who smoked pot in the mid-late 70's (and we're talking very potent Thai Sticks here, courtesy of Mr Asia) we only knew of one kid who'd had a bad reaction to pot, and he had a history of mental illness well before he'd smoked. We never dreamed pot would be associated with schizophrenia in the years to come, so I guess, us thinking pot would be legalised within a decade or two was being quite realistic. But then is not now.

While there will undoubtedly be more medical discoveries for the use of pot, and probably approval for some medical uses, there will also (imo) probably be an increased association with mental illness, particularly as the "human condition" is further "dissected and examined". Whether pot actually causes something or simply awakens an underlying condition won't really matter, as mere association with these conditions will hold back governments from ever sanctioning complete approval....again, imo.

Sorry if that sounds condescending, it's simply how this baby boomer sees it :D but let's face it, in a world where the "health and safety factor" increases everyday and rarely ever become more lax, the best chance you probably had was with the Baby Boomers

Still, activism + optimism can equal hope, and that's a good thing, just so long as the personal contribution of the masses, upon which that hope is based, isn't done solely from the armchair

 

[Lovegrud]

Sorry if that sounds condescending, it's simply how this baby boomer sees it :D but let's face it, in a world where the "health and safety factor" increases everyday and rarely ever become more lax, the best chance you probably had was with the Baby Boomers

Still, activism + optimism can equal hope, and that's a good thing, just so long as the personal contribution of the masses, upon which that hope is based, isn't done solely from the armchair

Nah it didn't sound condescending at all sorry for pidgeon holing you, you raised a few good points there I never really considered.

I can't agree more with your last paragraph, it's all well and good bitching on a forum but what really needs to happen if anything is to change is for people to start being more proactive and start to fight for what they believe. But where to start?

 

[thestudent14]

^^
In Nimbin

 

[Sameria]

I'm playing the devils advocate a bit here, as well as offering something of an old bloke's view on things.

I'm a baby boomer, and once upon a time when we were in our teens and twenties, almost every young person I knew supported decriminalisation - some even rallied for it. Indeed, street marches weren't uncommon, and young supporters - those willing to stand up and be counted - were less worried about the consequences of advocating reform, even if such views were at odds with those of their contemporaries, parents or bosses.

But people grow older and their attitudes often change. With another 20-30 years of life experiences behind them, it will be interesting to see how many of the younger generation of today will still think as they once did, or at least admit it if they do

In tomorrows world, they will probably have even more to lose coming out in support of something that could be so frowned upon by society in general - the result of continual government propaganda, or legit scientific findings, or because of the incidence of emphysema in 30-40s bong smokers of the decades to come perhaps. The Baby Boomer equivalent of that time may feel more restricted because of their careers, multiple mortgages etc, or be reluctant because they fear that any such support would encourage their own kids to use, or even distance them if the kids' education has been an effective deterrent. Then there's "old people" peer pressure /risk of being ostracised (for some, even scarier at age 50 than at 15). Many will have also given up drugs by their 30s or 40s and many of these will tend to be less supportive, simply because the legal standing of pot won't directly affect them.

And fwiw, on so many levels I find young people today generally more conservative deep down, and I have to add, many are less than realistic about the challenges faced by future proponents of legislation. For example, among the large number of teens in our town who smoked pot in the mid-late 70's (and we're talking very potent Thai Sticks here, courtesy of Mr Asia) we only knew of one kid who'd had a bad reaction to pot, and he had a history of mental illness well before he'd smoked. We never dreamed pot would be associated with schizophrenia in the years to come, so I guess, us thinking pot would be legalised within a decade or two was being quite realistic. But then is not now.

While there will undoubtedly be more medical discoveries for the use of pot, and probably approval for some medical uses, there will also (imo) probably be an increased association with mental illness, particularly as the "human condition" is further "dissected and examined". Whether pot actually causes something or simply awakens an underlying condition won't really matter, as mere association with these conditions will hold back governments from ever sanctioning complete approval....again, imo.

Sorry if that sounds condescending, it's simply how this baby boomer sees it :D but let's face it, in a world where the "health and safety factor" increases everyday and rarely ever become more lax, the best chance you probably had was with the Baby Boomers

Still, activism + optimism can equal hope, and that's a good thing, just so long as the personal contribution of the masses, upon which that hope is based, isn't done solely from the armchair

Great to hear from someone who has been there and knows what happened when your generation was my age. My only hope is that, largely due to the internet, people will become more and more aware of the social, financial and ethical perversions commited by those currently in power of the globe.

The "New World Order" (ie those who controler the government puppets- including Australia) is very adept at subliminal psycholgical manipulation. The crinch to beating their strategy is exposing their lies in a detailed and unbiased manner on a broad scale to the general public.

I'll read over your post and elaborate some more in the morning when I'm a bit more sober

Can't argue with action though. We won't move forward by sitting on our asses and talking about change.

 

[EmbassyVicePrez]

Gees, is it really that hard to understand this is a piece of political activism? Of course pot has not been legalised in Nimbin. The organisers are doing a little bit of Ghandi style "Be the change you want to see in the world." This is the idea that you act as if the change you want to see is already here. It's not that hard to understand is it?

Yes, but only one "organiser" was pushing this. It was not a collective action.

Such acts do not take responsibility for putting people at risk that are not aware of this concept. A lot of people really wanted to believe this, and did. They now feel justifiably disillusioned. That's not that hard to understand either is it?

 

[Verybuffed]

Yes, but only one "organiser" was pushing this. It was not a collective action.

Such acts do not take responsibility for putting people at risk that are not aware of this concept. A lot of people really wanted to believe this, and did. They now feel justifiably disillusioned. That's not that hard to understand either is it?

Welcome to Bluelight Vice Prez, it will be good to have some representation from the HEMP embassy here.

Great to to hear your point of view on the issue.

 

[EmbassyVicePrez]

I'm the webmaster, "Webhead", among other roles. The thread started on the 6th. I posted my doubts in that thread on the 8th, but too many posters desperately wanted to believe otherwise.

A surprising number of people lack critical faculties. You need them to avoid being conned.

Thanks Verybuffed. I seem to post every couple of years so far.

I'm actually the guy that would have had your IP and email addresses on his computer if you were Embassy forum members, but our servers are in the USA. Our php guy thinks they use bots registered as members to gather that sort of information. 8)

All the best, and thanks to the investigator/whistleblowers.

 

[Verybuffed]

I'm the webmaster, "Webhead", among other roles. The thread started on the 6th. I posted my doubts in that thread on the 8th, but too many posters desperately wanted to believe otherwise.

A surprising number of people lack critical faculties. You need them to avoid being conned.

Thanks Verybuffed. I seem to post every couple of years so far.

I'm actually the guy that would have had your IP and email addresses on his computer if you were Embassy forum members, but our servers are in the USA. Our php guy thinks they use bots registered as members to gather that sort of information. 8)

All the best, and thanks to the investigator/whistleblowers.

So what happened today in Nimbin?

I realise the trial was stalled but were there more Police than usual there in attendance? How did todays non event impact on the town?

 

[Don Quixote]

to people saying that others need to know this information...
If you've been to nimbin on a 'bad day' you know straight away that today is not the day, and it's not like you go out for a 4-10hour drive with your bong or other shit, to pick up...