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Cannabis Study cigs vs. MJ on lungs. Very cool for us smoksters.

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I took a class 3 years ago at a college in LA named "Drug use and abuse." . The book that came with the class was fascinating . It listed a huge range of information on psychoactive chemicals that even the most experienced drug users would have found new info (useful too!) .

Much of what was learned in that book consisted of (very) informative drug studies . The one I am talking about was a study evaluating the differences of mortality rates between marijuana smokers vs. cigarette smokers vs. marijuana AND cigarette smokers vs. non smokers.

The conclusive results showed no difference between the mortality rates of the only marijuana smokers and the non smokers.

As you can guess, there was a significant increase in the mortality rates of cig smokers . (I am sorry I do not remember how much more likely one was to die from smoking cigs.)

But the most interesting thing is that the people who smoked cigs and cannabis were expected to outlive the sole cigarette smokers by 5 years!

Around that same page was info on the bronchodiolating (sry spelling) effects of cannabis and how it helps to open up the air passages and to cough and clear phlegm from the cilia (small hairlike thingys that help sweep shit out the lungs) . This is a notable difference between cigarette smoke and marijuana smoke is that they react quite oppositely in the throat/lungs.

MJ Opens up the airways (Some people even swear by it for Asthma!!!), and cigs constrict the airways. Mj then helps remove tar from the lungs which would otherwise be constricted and harder to clear if you soley smoked cigs.

I think also people who smoke weed smoke less cigs as well. that parts just my 2cents tho...

I have been looking EVERYWHERE for this damned study , but i cant find it anywhere. If anyone knows of it , please , post it here. . .
 
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Very interesting. Thank god it would seem someone finally did a real study instead of stealing the research funds to get high and then just claiming "One joint is 80 trillion cigarettes!". Scientific advancement.......nice! Seeing the study would be amazing. Probably full of interesting materials.
 
People who have smoked both cannabis and tobacco surely notice that there's a different texture to the smoke from each. Cannabis smoke is definitely thicker while tobacco smoke is finer. Also, you can get cancer from chewing tobacco but you can chew on weed as much as you want and not get cancer...
 
Chainer said:
that's how I started senior year in high school. lasted about 3 months before it was 3-5 a week, and now 10-15 a week where it's been for about 3 years (with a 2 month break last april).

/derail
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That's what happened to me, i started smoking occasionally when i was stoned because i rather like the way it affects the high, and then i started spilling over to where i was smoking squares to wake up and before i knew it i was up to about a pack and a half a week, all in the space of about 4 months...... nicotine is incredibly addictive, people don't give it credit for that. Fortunately i'm down to less than five a week, for me cigs have a certain "gross" factor that prevents me from really ever wanting to be a chronic smoker.

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That may be good and all, but inhaling the byproducts of combusted plant matter is still very bad for your lungs, just about everyone i know who smokes mj regularly has bad lungs to some degree...
 
opinions are like assholes....

no, but, seriously... those things are gross. I still am not sure why I continue to buy packs. At least I smoke American Spirits now. I need to charge my e-cigs, the act of smoking is moreso what I am addicted to.

Like Ana-whatever said, lighting any product on fire and inhaling it means you are getting a carbon shot directly into your body, where it is super quickly absorbed and carried around throughout your body in blood cells. Dose damage to lungs, blood flow, etc, and has cancer potential. Not saying weed itself does, but this ROA certainly has the most potential to do damage then any other ROA of cannabis.
 
mmmmmmm, american spirits...

For me, e-cigs are lame... admittedly they DO fuck you up, but smoking them just isn't fulfilling... But maybe that's just me, I prefer bongs to vapes for that reason as well, but to a much lesser extent, for me most of the joy of cigarettes is the joy of smoking something... smoking things is fun
 
Pegasus said:
I'm pretty sure this information is on the Wiki for cannabis smoking...

Edit- Here's the link, note there are some sources. Maybe one is what you're referring to...

[PLAIN]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_smoking#Smoking_lung_cancer_risk[/PLAIN]
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Cool... never looked at the wiki heh . haha anti-tumor properties in CBD! Heard this before; super cool !!

Good thing I use indica dominants for anxiety :0

Chainer said:
no, but, seriously... those things are gross. I still am not sure why I continue to buy packs. At least I smoke American Spirits now. I need to charge my e-cigs, the act of smoking is moreso what I am addicted to.
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Good luck to you Chainer (heh ohhh the irony) . I know you can do it ! I tried e-cigs and they were a great alternative for me . I used the smallest cartridges 6mg of nicotine , but they make them with 24mg as the highest I believe(?). But, I never stayed on e-cigs, just borrowed a buddy of mine's for a week.

But they DO work. But for anyone quitting nicotine, the best advice I can give you it to cold turkey . Yes it is painful, but once you get past day 3 you have basically beat the withdrawals the most, and after day 7 it gets ALOT easier (esp. if you are already a MJ smoker.)

I must contribute part of my success in qutting cigs was marijuana. ( and REALLY wanting to quit. ) . Remeber, you have to WANT it so much you can taste it.

"Qutting smoking isn't hard. Choosing to is."
"No pain, no gain."
 
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Help?!?! said:
Very interesting. Thank god it would seem someone finally did a real study instead of stealing the research funds to get high and then just claiming "One joint is 80 trillion cigarettes!". Scientific advancement.......nice! Seeing the study would be amazing. Probably full of interesting materials.
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And yes =( . I am going to call the school today and ask if there is SOME WAY someone can tell me what edition and what book that is. I remember in that book was quoted something along the lines of "Not one case of cancer has been linked to Cannabis consumption" ( absence of nicotine. )

When I read that I was like, "Fsho this is gonna be legiiiiit." I didn't make friends for about 1 week because I was locked in my room and I read the whole textbook ! hahahaha . got an A+ in the class . . . . . . . How bout that...

Arg I really wana find this damned book. Too early now, will call in a couple hours .
 
i have a hard time believing that a two pape is better for you than a small cigarette,
vaporizers are the only argument for health,
even bongs can be harsh on lungs,
brownies are the safest though.
usually people who smoke weed know something of consequence,
and are prepared and willing because the effects are just too nice,
i dont like eating weed,
like my pipe, because it really fucks with my head,
being high is learned i think, cause i get higher with each hit.
 
I used to smoke cigarettes, then I smoked both cigs and weed for years, now I just smoke weed, and I think this article sounds right on to me. I've noticed a huge increase in lung capacity and overall health since I quit cigs (I was a heavy smoker though, a pack a day).
What I would like to know is how much tar is in weed vs. tobacco, gram for gram, if they were smoked out of the same apparatus (both out of a pipe or both out of a filtered cigarette/joint). Not one of those "a gram of weed smoked in a bowl has as much tar as 7 filtered cigarettes bullshit, I want to know how they compare when both used in the same way.
 
Many of the products of incomplete combustion of organic materials, such as any leaves including MJ, are carcinogenic. Tobacco does not have a unique position in that respect. It should not be very contentious that inhaling smoke from burning leaves is not good for your lungs or throat. I like cannabis as much as the next guy but I'm not going to pretend it has no risks. Maybe the THC has some protective effect but the chances of it being so effective as to zero out the risks associated with all the crap in smoke tar is seems unlikely.

Like in all fields of medical & health research you can find a study to suit your agenda but one study does not prove anything unless it's very large, perfectly conducted and has all the relevant controls. Most do not fit this description.

Here are two studies showing a link.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...nel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...nel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

You can choose to believe what you like but seems to me that they don't know the answers and there is enough doubt, plus the common sense angle, to make me think that smoking pure MJ joints is risky.
 
In the second study, 96 % in study were cig smokers, and 15% are MJ smokers? Why not 60% cig smokers and like 50% mj AND cig smokers, instead of 96% and 15% both>? The control had 5 % user MJ ? in a study with 325 controls?
 
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Right but these studies involve people who smoke nicotine as well.

"only marijuana smokers"
 
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