First I'll better introduce myself - I'm ik-neg, 26 years old, a west-european male. The other persons in this trip report are A, a 23 year old female university student and M, a 22 year old female college student.
We have a regular habit of smoking cannabis appriximately 1-2 times a month. We have also tried smoking salvia 3 times, with very little effects. The last time was about 6 months ago, but now we decided to make a pic-nic in the park and smoke some salvia as well (although I know that the effect would be best in a dark room and without outworld disturbance).
I had a short pipe with me, which was loaded with approximately 0,5 grams of 8x extracted salvia and topped with maybe 0,3 of good quality buds. M smoked the pipe alone accompanied with heavy coughing.
The effects very obvious immediately, she stared to smile childisly. Shortly after that, I and A smoked a bowlful of the same substances.
Shortly after smoking the mixture I had this salvia-type feeling of everything being kind of "bent", it's hard to describe. Everything which was straight, was now diagonal and vice versa, and I couldn't be certain about the position (<-- not the best word, but I'm not a native english speaker) about things anymore - for example, I was not sure if it were sitting on a uphill or a downhill.
At some point we started to have very interesting philosophical discussions. M said something, which I regretfully don't remember, and I said something like "but there is an absolute idea of the nature, how everything is constructed, even if this truth is not known to the mankind". This thought felt extremely deep and profound, and it awakened also many other wise (at least at time seeming) thoughts, which I unfortunately cannot remember anymore.
M had a some kind of out-of-body experience and was convinced that there was an "it", which tried to prevent her from seeing the truth and making here forgetting the essence of this revealed truth. I remember understanding perfectly clearly was she meant. One part of my brain was thinking that she sounds schizophrenic (as this is a common symptome of shcizophrenia) but the other part of my brain was thinking that this makes perfect sense. I was though not worried at all.
A mainly listened to us, and later she told that she had feared that some hostile people come to us and had mainly listened to our conversation.
At some point of time we were taking pictures with a digital camera, which has a display, from which you can see the picture to be taken. I suggested the girls that we take a picture of us lying on the ground, but I had the camera the wrong way around objective pointing to the sky. I was so grassed up anyway that I saw nothing wrong with it, so I took the picture anyway and when I viewed the picture a few seconds later I couldn't interpret it at all.
A bit later I thought I had captured the evil in ourselves (the sky was a bit dark) and I couldn't interpret it as a sky at all.
At some point of time we smoked a second bowl, just buds this time, but the effects didn't increase much. Later on we went eating in some restaurant, and we had no idea how we ended up there, it was a very unfamiliar part of the town. The waiters were very unfriendly, I guess we were looking pretty smoked-up. :D
This was the first time of mixing salvia and cannabis, and even if the immediate feelings of salvia were not really obvious, I think this was a really nice trip and it definitely had some effects and synergy with cannabis. M and I felt definitely something different than usually from a cannabis trip and the philosophical thoughts were very insigthful and interesting, although we all wish that we had brought a medium to record them.
We have a regular habit of smoking cannabis appriximately 1-2 times a month. We have also tried smoking salvia 3 times, with very little effects. The last time was about 6 months ago, but now we decided to make a pic-nic in the park and smoke some salvia as well (although I know that the effect would be best in a dark room and without outworld disturbance).
I had a short pipe with me, which was loaded with approximately 0,5 grams of 8x extracted salvia and topped with maybe 0,3 of good quality buds. M smoked the pipe alone accompanied with heavy coughing.
The effects very obvious immediately, she stared to smile childisly. Shortly after that, I and A smoked a bowlful of the same substances.Shortly after smoking the mixture I had this salvia-type feeling of everything being kind of "bent", it's hard to describe. Everything which was straight, was now diagonal and vice versa, and I couldn't be certain about the position (<-- not the best word, but I'm not a native english speaker) about things anymore - for example, I was not sure if it were sitting on a uphill or a downhill.
At some point we started to have very interesting philosophical discussions. M said something, which I regretfully don't remember, and I said something like "but there is an absolute idea of the nature, how everything is constructed, even if this truth is not known to the mankind". This thought felt extremely deep and profound, and it awakened also many other wise (at least at time seeming) thoughts, which I unfortunately cannot remember anymore.
M had a some kind of out-of-body experience and was convinced that there was an "it", which tried to prevent her from seeing the truth and making here forgetting the essence of this revealed truth. I remember understanding perfectly clearly was she meant. One part of my brain was thinking that she sounds schizophrenic (as this is a common symptome of shcizophrenia) but the other part of my brain was thinking that this makes perfect sense. I was though not worried at all.
A mainly listened to us, and later she told that she had feared that some hostile people come to us and had mainly listened to our conversation.
At some point of time we were taking pictures with a digital camera, which has a display, from which you can see the picture to be taken. I suggested the girls that we take a picture of us lying on the ground, but I had the camera the wrong way around objective pointing to the sky. I was so grassed up anyway that I saw nothing wrong with it, so I took the picture anyway and when I viewed the picture a few seconds later I couldn't interpret it at all.
A bit later I thought I had captured the evil in ourselves (the sky was a bit dark) and I couldn't interpret it as a sky at all.At some point of time we smoked a second bowl, just buds this time, but the effects didn't increase much. Later on we went eating in some restaurant, and we had no idea how we ended up there, it was a very unfamiliar part of the town. The waiters were very unfriendly, I guess we were looking pretty smoked-up. :D
This was the first time of mixing salvia and cannabis, and even if the immediate feelings of salvia were not really obvious, I think this was a really nice trip and it definitely had some effects and synergy with cannabis. M and I felt definitely something different than usually from a cannabis trip and the philosophical thoughts were very insigthful and interesting, although we all wish that we had brought a medium to record them.
