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Cannabis induced Psychosis

PotatoMan

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I have a friend(literally) whom was away at university in Pennsylvania (Penn-State) and was very smart and studying to become an actuary. His parents are recently divorced and he's had some troubles with a long term girlfriend. Now i know about drug psychosis and how its temporary and whatnot, and when he was kicked out of University for disturbing the peace and whatnot he came back home, a mess. The doctors in America gave him ativan(which i can live with) the dose was pretty high though, 90 2mg pills 3x daily seemed quite over-prescribed. Anyway when he got back here he was diagnosed with Cannabis-Induced Psychosis and prescribed Seroquel. Now that did NOT sit well with me. I fucking hate the notion of those anti-psychotics. Its been a few months like 2 maybe 3 where he's been on it and the doctor has the course set for 6 months. It's quite depressing seeing a friend whom you basically jump-started his weed habit and now is in a psychotic state just a couple months later. Maybe he has an underlying condition or whatever but the point of this post is the seroquel.

I feel quite uneasy with him on it and feel like he's gonna go through hell once he begins to come off the drug. I feel like he's already in too deep but i told him when it comes to that time that he should use the remaining ativan to help with the withdrawal, but of course he is in a psychotic state and also has 0 understanding of drugs and it's effects so he will obliviously listen to whatever our fucking idiot doctors tell him and his family to do where this is concerned. What do you guys think?

The one thing i love about crazy people is their intelligence though. The first thing he told me when he landed home was "What is the most precious thing on this earth, Zac?" i responded, "Idk Harry, Life?" He said, "No, a newborn child" with a comic book smile on his face. i asked why and he said, "New born children have the most capability on this earth, you can grow them into whatever you want them to be, be it Arnold Shcwartznagger or a lawyer."
 
I'm not sure I get you. You have a problem with him being on Seroquel, but he's definitely psychotic? It's an effective drug, and won't have any lasting bad effects, and not too much w/d that I know of (or that I experienced).

His course of treatment seems fine to me (without anything more than your post obviously). That's a lot of Ativan but if he was arrested for disturbing the peace maybe he needed to be sedated a little? To get kicked out of Penn State you have to be pretty fucking rowdy/drunken mess. Was he definitely just smoking weed? You seem sure of his psychosis and that is pretty quickly for something this severe to happen just from cannabis, there could easily be an underlying issue, this is when problems emerge.
 
I don't think you really described the C based psychosis enough for anybody to comment on it and the following information.

Yes while Seroquel is generally accepted as nasty is very effective for where its specifically needed. That would be for inherent specific non drug abuse related psychosis (which is a huge area in itself) and then for stimulant drug abuse psychosis, OD and treatment etc where i have first had experience at its very high effectiveness.

I just don't see how the drug could be used for Cannabis induced Psychosis as both mechanism of action are different and wouldn't overlap in any useful way. What I am then assuming with very little info is that the Cannabis brought out an inherent preexisting issue as a trigger in which case the Seroquel might be good for treating that depending on what that is, could be anything?
 
I don't know how to describe the psychosis. Sorry, I have a hard time expressing myself but I just feel as though he doesn't need to be on the seroquel for so long.

To describe the psychosis all I can say is that his personality is completely altered and you couldn't have a conversation with him. Like his thought process was fucked. As in he wouldn't be able to understand simple questions I would as him. He said he heard voices in his head that referred to him as a god n shit. Probably a mild schitzophrenia episode.
 
He also hadn't said anything about other drugs. He said he hit a bong that has 5 chambers and it's like smoking 30spliffs at once and after that he went off.
 
I have cannabis psychotic disorder....And if I take a hit of weed my mind races and I want to hide under the covers cause I think the sky is falling....Is he talking word salad.....I mean like it seems like a whole bunch of sentences jumbled into one?........That is a high dose of Ativan and he would have a harder time coming off that than anything else.......I think he had a underlining illness because if he has abstained from weed than he would be fine........I mean stress can cause psychosis too on top of weed and school I mean the list goes on and on. I hate that I'm on so many meds but I have to be to have a functioning life....It sounds like he needs to get stable first before you jump the gun....
 
Marijuana IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. Its not a big deal. Some people just don't enjoy it and it seems to effect them a lot.... But most that don't enjoy it just never smoked the correct amount, if they would just take like 1 hit of good herb they would PROBABLY enjoy it more... but then there are some that just don't like the ganja high.. %)
 
Marijuana IS NOT FOR EVERYONE. Its not a big deal. Some people just don't enjoy it and it seems to effect them a lot.... But most that don't enjoy it just never smoked the correct amount, if they would just take like 1 hit of good herb they would PROBABLY enjoy it more... but then there are some that just don't like the ganja high.. %)

I like the marijuana high, especially before work in the mornings, but at the same time mj never fails to induce some anxiety and paranoia. I only take one or two hits. If I take more my heart starts racing and I become a mess.
 
^Oh yeah, the line between enjoyable marijuana high and anxiety, heart racing high is so fine for me. I will pick the weed back up every once in a while, and when I do I am fine until I have one bad high and then I usually just don't want anything to do with it for a while.

For the OP, it sounds like your friend needs to be on something. For doctors it can be really hard to treat someone in that mindstate, because they fail to provide adequate feedback on their condition. You sya he needs to get off seroquel, but is it helping him? And what will he be like off it?
 
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