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Cannabis and 5-HTP

bluesnowmen

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I originally posted this on erowid but I felt it should be posted here as well.

(I have not proof-read any of the following because I am tired and don't feel like it, so if I made a lot of stupid grammar errors forgive me)

I have been smoking cannabis at a minimum of 1 time per week for the past year and a half so I am fairly used to the effects of cannabis. I take vitamins regularly (as long as I remember) and I had read some good things about how 5-HTP can benefit one (nothing I read had anything to do with cannabis and I was totally unaware of the fact that this combination had been discussed previously, many people beleive that it is placebo), so I decided to buy myself a bottle of some naturally obtained 5-HTP and see if it actually does all it says its supposed to do. I took a 100 mg 12 hour time released pill at about 5:00 PM and then forgot about it entirely. At about 10:00 PM I decided to fire up my vaporizer and finish up the monster bowl my friends and I where unable to finish a few days before. So once it is all heated up and shit I start toking off it. Now I knew this weed was supposed to be some "danky ass shit" but I had hit it quite a few times when we first started on this bowl (it was around a .5-.7 gram bowl) and felt a normal high that I was used to, but when I started to feel the effects kick in, I felt less in my head and more in what I was seeing, everything just seemed more altered than usual. I payed little mind to this and just kept hitting it, then i started to feel alot more body but it was a happier feeling in my torso then usual, and at this point, my head felt much happier then normal. I was not really feeling the usual heavy feeling and actually felt more uplifted than anything else. I continued hitting the vape until it the remains were thouroughly browned. I was feeling great, I started to notice that there were honey comb paterns on everything, and that while looking at computer screen, everything around it was rippling, like somebody kept dropping a rock into a pond, waiting for the water to almost settle, then dropping another rock in the same place. I felt really happy and I felt like a plank, like my legs where connected to my torso and just, planky (sorry for poor description I cant really think of any other words to describe it). I talked to my friends for about a hour then decided to lay in my bed (which is goose feather pillow topped, which a feather pillow, and a feather blanket) until I fell asleep. Once I got into bed I felt like I was floating on a cloud (I am used to laying in my bed when I am stoned and it normally feels like I am floating then too, but this was much more profound). I enjoyed this feeling as I slowly drifted off into sleepy land and woke up feeling fully refreshed and mildly buzzed (something that I had stopped noticeing before this experience). I was then determined to figure out what exactly caused this to happen and I recalled that I had taken the 5-HTP earlier that day and did some googling and found a erowid report that backed up my observations of feeling extra euphoria, more energized, and more psychedelic. I have been doing some reading about using 5-HTP and I'm not sure about what damage it can cause if you use it occasionally for recreational perposes and for that reason I do not advise anybody to do this unless they have done research for themselves to find potential harm in combinding 5-HTP and other drugs to produce better effects.
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I know what you mean. When I take 5-htp and smoke, I see more patterning on walls and my computer screen the way I do day 3 after taking MDMA/methylone. It works well for getting me out of a depressed slump, and it works great to keep calm during some heavy blaze sessions.
 
Yeah, I was totally chill as I was fracked out of my mind and im just sitting there laughing saying "dude this is cool" but it seems a lot of people say that its a placebo. But I don't see how it could have been a placebo effect for me when I had never read anything about it until after i noticed it myself.
 
I don't think its a placebo. 5-HTP raises your serotonin levels which puts you in a better mood, so if your blazing you'll enter the session in a good mood and probably leave the sesh in a better one.

I'm not really sure what to think about the 'visuals' though.
 
5-HTP is highly debatable as placebo even when concerning something which is much more serotonin involved drugs such as MDxx. I honestly do not think taking 5-HTP before a blaze session will make any difference other than complete placebo. Something like Calm Forte would be more effective, even.

It wouldn't produce visuals. The fact that you experienced them had little to do with 5-HTP.
 
i get that too. 5-htp seems to put me in a more spaced-out happy headspace. adding weed amplifies that.
 
When I take 5-htp a few hours before smoking, I get a much more clear-headed, mood-lifting high. A few of my smoking buddies have tried it with similar effects...although one always ends up just acting strange. :P

As to whether it's placebo, I don't think it's that unlikely that 5-htp would change the cannabis high, but I haven't really researched since I started using it about a year ago.
 
I get a more happier kinda less lazy high .
And the paranoia and muscle twitching seems to die down .
 
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