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Candyflipping first time... advice needed.

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The biggest question I wanted to ask all you experienced candyflippers is do you usually take the mdma first?? or lsd first? is there horrible bodyload??
Any input is appreciated.
Thanks
 
What i've heard and this is for sure answered in bluelight already, take the LSD first
 
xammy said:
What i've heard and this is for sure answered in bluelight already, take the LSD first
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For a long time, I thought taking MDMA first was common practice. It turns out the other way around (which I have never tried) seems to provide a more interesting experience.
If you decide to take the MDMA first however, remember that the subsequent LSD dose will be somehow potentiated (in my case, at least).

I never got anything interesting out of these MDMA-first candy-flips. However, a nexus flip (120 mg MDMA, then 48 mg 2C-B at t+3h) was one of the most beautiful psychedelic experieince that has ever happened to me.
 
There's no right or wrong way to do it. For me, taking the MDMA first puts me in a good mood for when the LSD hits, but if you use MDMA too frequently that it doesn't completely work for you, it may end up making you frustrated if it never hits as hard as you want it too...You generally want to be in a good place mentally and emotionally when the LSD hits...
 
You could do either first, or both at the same time.

Generally speaking, LSD tends to last longer than MDMA, and for me, the LSD is really the main course, while the MDMA is more like the copious amount of black truffle and gold leaf that my waiter grates all over the fucking plate.

I see it this way. The MDMA will essentially re-kick in your LSD trip, while metamorphosing it into this beautiful psychedelic butterfly. I'd take the LSD first and then take the MDMA after about 1-1.5 hours.
 
LSD first always - I always find that when a decent sized hit of MDMA wears off it takes most of the trip with it. Difficult to know when in terms of time. Try not to spend most of your LSD trip thinking to yourself "When am I going to take the MDMA?" because that just ruins both trips.

The one time candyflipping worked for me I took the MDMA perhaps 6 hours after the LSD and it was one of the most beautiful few hours of my life. Never worked like that again unfortunately. It's tricky for everything to hit just right.
 
ZFC said:
For a long time, I thought taking MDMA first was common practice. It turns out the other way around (which I have never tried) seems to provide a more interesting experience.
If you decide to take the MDMA first however, remember that the subsequent LSD dose will be somehow potentiated (in my case, at least).

I never got anything interesting out of these MDMA-first candy-flips. However, a nexus flip (120 mg MDMA, then 48 mg 2C-B at t+3h) was one of the most beautiful psychedelic experieince that has ever happened to me.
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48mg of 2CB is a lot of 2CB
 
I dosed LSD first then the MDMA. The 2 greatly potentiate each other so dose accordingly. If 125mcg LSD is your usual dose go with 100mcg, if 120mg MDMA is the usual dose go with 100mg for example.

A tip I didn't receive was if you're having a bad trip on the LSD the MDMA will NOT help it push it in a positive direction. You'd think it would, but I'm sure I was near hospitalization when I did that. The best tip I could give you is take the MDMA when you feel 100% comfortable and think it's the right time. If that time never comes then wait for the next special occasion.

The body load is definitely much more than LSD or MDMA alone. I'd doubt you'd pay attention to it though when you're in candyland.

Also, 48mg 2C-B seems like quite a lot. I can't even imagine what that'd be like with MDMA.
 
I agree that MDMA won't reverse a bad trip, but it may put you in a mood where you're not self-conscious or fearful before you take the LSD....I can completely understand doing it the other way too....If you're feeling apprehensive about tripping in an environment with a bunch of people, I think taking the MDMA as a starter is a good idea.
 
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I agree that MDMA won't reverse a bad trip, but it may put you in a mood where you're not self-conscious or fearful before you take the LSD....I can completely understand doing it the other way too....If you're feeling apprehensive about tripping in an environment with a bunch of people, I think taking the MDMA as a starter is a good idea.
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Thanks for the advices everyone. After reading replies on this thread so far and researching through other related threads the general consensus is LSD first and then MDMA because LSD lasts a lot longer. I am a little prone to anxiety though with psychedelics so I might take MDMA first depending on my mood.(but rolled only 3 weeks ago hmm). I got stash of Xanax handy if anything so looks like I am all set.
Happy Halloween y'all.
 
Ismene said:
LSD first always - I always find that when a decent sized hit of MDMA wears off it takes most of the trip with it. Difficult to know when in terms of time. Try not to spend most of your LSD trip thinking to yourself "When am I going to take the MDMA?" because that just ruins both trips.

The one time candyflipping worked for me I took the MDMA perhaps 6 hours after the LSD and it was one of the most beautiful few hours of my life. Never worked like that again unfortunately. It's tricky for everything to hit just right.
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Good call! I'll remember not to anticipate so much about M.(if I take the LSD first... probably will). This lsd is Ffluff high quality Xtal 250ug on each print... so yeah would probably take M much later(maybe 6 hrs later like you mentioned) since it should be pretty long lasting tab.
Thanks
 
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Candy flipping can be fun as long as your experienced with the effects of both drugs individually. Combing the MDMA mid LSD trip can be fun or it can be a little too much fun :). I prefer 2cb and MXE no MDMA required but that is just my preference. IF take the LSD after your high on MDMA you will only get the combination on the MDMA's downward spiral as opposed to mid trip enhancement.

I guess depends what you want as the LSD will eventually overpower the MDMA's effects so your MDMA wears of and your tripping (not as hard due to serotonin already being released), However excessive serotonin and it's release is not always a good thing.

If your anxious when you trip your probably going to be anxious. Take a tiny dose of xanax before you do anything 0.25 mg, won't knock you out and will reduce anxiety. Will not effect your trip in any way unless your sensitive to benzo's in which case take a lower dose. Benzo's won't end a trip, never have in my experience. Unless taking a high dose and blacking out counts as anything less than stupid. They will reduce unwanted side effects like body tension/load, anxiety etc. Just don't take a dose that will overly sedate you.
 
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trogere said:
48mg of 2CB is a lot of 2CB
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Yup. I knew what I was doing, did it well, and it proved very rewarding.
But yeah, don't do this just because it's a rainy day. This trip was carefully planned more than 2 weeks in advance.
 
Onandoff said:
Good call! I'll remember not to anticipate so much about M.(if I take the LSD first... probably will). This lsd is Ffluff high quality Xtal 250ug on each print... so yeah would probably take M much later(maybe 6 hrs later like you mentioned) since it should be pretty long lasting tab.
Thanks
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Good luck! Just play it by ear and how you feel. No hard and fast rules except I'd let the LSD work for a few hours first because coming down on MDMA when you've got 3 or 4 hours of LSD left is just a waste of acid.
 
Ismene said:
Good luck! Just play it by ear and how you feel. No hard and fast rules except I'd let the LSD work for a few hours first because coming down on MDMA when you've got 3 or 4 hours of LSD left is just a waste of acid.
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Thanks. Just waiting a bit longer because it hasn't been long enough since my last roll...need to bring down my md tolerance a bit more. I want this candyflipping to be more magical and spiritual shiiet :) Will the LSD potentiate the mdma though? So probably take less m than usual? I need at least 175mg+ for my rolls but with LSD taken prior I assume take less m than usual because I heard it will be potentiated.
 
Don't think the LSD potentiates the MDMA - you're better off taking your standard dose, but if you're in the right mood and the timing is ok, they combine to bring you to a state of absolute nirvana :D
 
I do LSD first because it takes longer to kick in for me. When I feel it coming on I will take the MDMA. By the time the LSD becomes full on the MDMA will be active.
 
I found that LSD and MDMA potentiate each other. I'm definitely more roll-y with LSD. The degree at which MDMA potentiates LSD is greater than the reverse though.
 
Ismene said:
Don't think the LSD potentiates the MDMA - you're better off taking your standard dose, but if you're in the right mood and the timing is ok, they combine to bring you to a state of absolute nirvana :D
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Ended up doing it two nights ago at home with gf tripsittin me. Tripsitting not needed I don't think it is possible to have bad trips from candyflipping lol. It was so good that I don't ever wanna do neither of them alone again lol. Damn right...a state of absolute nirvana... that's how I woulda described it hahh.
The music never sounded this great... no matter what genre of music.
 
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